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woah cakes
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posted September 27, 2011 12:34 AM
  
so! i officially ended it with the guy i was seeing since november a couple of weeks back, then discovered that my supposed 'good friend' started dating him 2 days (at max) after that. i ended it because he was flirting with her (among similar things) so it's really quite doubly gross. needless to say they are both out of my life now but i have a quick question:she thinks she is going to 'convert' him (she's super christian) and i know this will never happen. do you think that her numerous NEPTUNE SQUARES to his planets could indicate an 'illusion' of this sort? i highly doubt she will deceive him, if anyone does it will be him, and he more than likely will, but he makes no neptune contacts to her at all except one to her NN. yeah that is all i need to know right now. i probably shouldn't even give a crap. i'm looking at their synastry and it's full of red lines but there are a few superamazing synastry aspects in there as well so it's odd. they seem such an unlikely pairing though and i feel so grossed out and mad, so this is how i'm dealing with it. and yeah i came across this neptune thing and was startled cuz i thought neptune was the deceptOR in such configurations. IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted September 27, 2011 12:51 AM
eff it, here is the synastry. the weirdest thing about this is see their venus/stellium stuff in virgo? well my saturn is EXACTLY (to the min) the midpoint of his uranus and pluto and is conjunct her saturn 1 deg orb, and this all went down when sun was on this exact spot. eerie right!?i dunno, have a look and say anything that comes to mind, even if you see marriage in their future, i don't care. i'm over him cuz he ended up being gross and i just got this big ridiculous letter from her today trying to justify being a jerk so i WILL get over her too, but at the moment i'm kinda just raw and annoyed and nauseous!
he's red, she's blue. oh and i don't know either's time of birth so they are big guesses but likely are within a couple hours.
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BelligerentPygmy
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posted September 27, 2011 12:55 AM
Why do you even care? There's billions of guys on the planet, the universe just rid you of one that's no good so that now you're free to find one who is.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted September 27, 2011 12:59 AM
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teasel
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posted September 27, 2011 01:01 AM
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woah cakes
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posted September 27, 2011 01:04 AM
"Why do you even care? There's billions of guys on the planet, the universe just rid you of one that's no good so that now you're free to find one who is."well thanks for that bluntness!  like i said it's more HER that i'm upset about and the fact that they both deceived me. but yes you're very right indeed! i feel much freer. in fact the day i broke it off with him he dropped his charming veneer and i just thought he looked pathetic and i felt completely free. but this woman and i have been close friends for 7 years so i'm basically just trying to reprocess it again. IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted September 27, 2011 01:10 AM
thanks teasel.. yeah i also know there are some feelings for him i haven't fully processed- there was a lot of tenderness between us, but turns out it may have all been manipulation (ironically enough she's the one who told me how much of a player and cheater he is; she's best friends with his ex, heaven help us all!). so yeah, i don't really hold onto those feelings when they arise and insted choose to let them fall like sand through my fingers, voluntarily. thanks for the analysis! i find their synastry really odd with so many conventional good aspects and so many conventional difficult ones. i dont really care what happens to them. course on some level i'd love to see it fall apart quickly but i realize we are all working out karma and what have you; i'm just not sure how two people can feel okay starting a relationship on deception but maybe that is putting myself too much in the spotlight of what should be a beautiful wonderful new beginning for them. ahh sarcasm- it can be healing right?  IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted September 27, 2011 01:10 AM
weird.. i only hit reply once.IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted September 27, 2011 01:10 AM
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BelligerentPygmy
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posted September 27, 2011 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by woah cakes:
"Why do you even care? There's billions of guys on the planet, the universe just rid you of one that's no good so that now you're free to find one who is."well thanks for that bluntness! like i said it's more HER that i'm upset about and the fact that they both deceived me. but yes you're very right indeed! i feel much freer. in fact the day i broke it off with him he dropped his charming veneer and i just thought he looked pathetic and i felt completely free. but this woman and i have been close friends for 7 years so i'm basically just trying to reprocess it again.
Why do you even care about her, either? If you think about it the same concept still applies - the universe just showed you what kind of friend she really was so that you can go on and find someone more worthy of your friendship in the first place. IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted September 27, 2011 01:14 AM
oh man you must be an aquarius. am i right? but yeah, no i feel that way fundamentally about her as well. still, people make choices and she could have chosen to have more integrity, so there is some mourning and some what-if and some shock to contend with as i let her go. IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted September 27, 2011 01:18 AM
oh no! teasel why did you delete what you wrote? i was just going to look back over it and reply more specifically..  IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted September 27, 2011 01:18 AM
oh no! teasel why did you delete what you wrote? i was just going to look back over it and reply more specifically.. IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy
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posted September 27, 2011 01:19 AM
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Originally posted by woah cakes:
oh man you must be an aquarius. am i right? but yeah, no i feel that way fundamentally about her as well. still, people make choices and she could have chosen to have more integrity, so there is some mourning and some what-if and some shock to contend with as i let her go.
Aquarius Ascendant and south node, yeah. Yeah, I know but honestly - that's kind of the nature of life. Not everybody is a decent person that conducts themselves in an above-board, honorable manner. Just be glad you found this stuff about about her when you did and now you're rid of her and can find someone that is a decent person and can actually be trusted. IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted September 27, 2011 01:20 AM
well yeah, i can't argue with that! i'm an aquarius stellium (sun, merc, mars). but a taurus moon.. which of course provides a huge contradiction when it comes to letting things go and things of that nature. IP: Logged |
Capriquarius
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posted September 27, 2011 01:21 AM
*shakes head at them Venus-Uranus conjunctions/oppositions and complete lack of amiable Saturn contacts*Can you say "fling"? The question is, who's gonna lose interest first? I'm placing my bet on him. I found that when someone's Venus conjuncts the partner's Uranus, the Venus person's way of loving (in this case, probably by way of "improving" him in Virgo fashion...which may include converting him?) will trigger the Uranus person's freedom urge to go off on their own and do something exciting.....well, more exciting than Bible study, anyhow. Let us know how this goes down~ IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted September 27, 2011 01:24 AM
Oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't feeling so confident in my own analysis, and now I've lost it. I used to be able to go back in the history on my browser and find the post, before it had been edited. It's understandable that you're this upset over losing a supposed-friend of seven years. It's a huge betrayal, and will feel like a big loss, even if it doesn't look like one from the outside, and if the feelings will even out in the long run. It's rough.  I wondered if you should be looking at your own synastry with this friend. It doesn't look good, though, if she's going into it thinking that he's going to convert to anything for her. I think that she will regret this in the long run. IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy
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posted September 27, 2011 01:25 AM
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
*shakes head at them Venus-Uranus conjunctions/oppositions and complete lack of Saturn contacts*Can you say "fling"? The question is, who's gonna lose interest first? I'm placing my bet on him. I found that when someone's Venus conjuncts the partner's Uranus, the Venus person's way of loving (in this case, probably by way of "improving" him in Virgo fashion...which may include converting him?) will trigger the Uranus person's freedom urge to go off on their own and do something exciting.....well, more exciting than Bible study, anyhow. Let us know how this goes down~
I think his mars-pluto on her venus is more worry-inducing, frankly. And by worry-inducing I mean he's probably going to abuse the crap out of her in some way, verbally or otherwise. IP: Logged |
Capriquarius
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posted September 27, 2011 01:33 AM
Mars-Pluto on Venus sounds hot on its own but since Mars-Pluto is gonna play out in her 12th, yeah, he would probably try to find ways to dig into her psyche and manipulate her.It sucked having someone's Mars in my 12th. Felt like he was mad at me for something but I didnt know why or what for, and he wouldn't say. IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted September 27, 2011 01:40 AM
thanks teasel! i thought your analysis was good! and yeah, i should check our synastry again.. the only thing that comes to mind is her saturn is exactly on my jupiter. i dunno if this is responsible for it but she seemed to almost feed off my good energy in a weird sort of addictive manner. usually in a way that was complimentary (libra i guess) but if i'd slip out of it she'd get extremely irritable with me until i became really positive again. it's my chart ruler so it's not some big feat for me to be exhuberant but i found that a bit stifling. oh and her venus is on my saturn, as previously noted. her moon on my chiron, which is another tie in between the three of us (with his sun and venus). of course it makes sense that my saturn and chiron would get the brunt of lame treatment in this lame and not even particularly exciting love triangle, doesn't it?capriquarius, you are hilarious, and probably right on the money. she's an extreme christian but she's also fairly 'wild and crazy' too but yes, i cannot see him tolerating it for a moment and i can definitely see her trying to push it on him rather forcefully eventually.
belligerent pygmy, does uranus/mars typically indicate abuse? and if so, would you think it would be due to the receptive/magnetic nature of venus that such a tendency would be exacerbated or more likely?
oh also, anyone know about my inital neptune squares question from my first post? thanks everyone; you're cheering me up! IP: Logged |
tuxedoMask
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posted September 27, 2011 01:42 AM
think u oughta post YOUR synastry with him and your synastry with HER on here...their sun's and moon's aren't getting along and uranus is doing what it's doing so i don't think u should concern urself too much about it, but it is understandable that ur upset about the principle. IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy
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posted September 27, 2011 01:47 AM
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Mars-Pluto on Venus sounds hot on its own but since Mars-Pluto is gonna play out in her 12th, yeah, he would probably try to find ways to dig into her psyche and manipulate her.It sucked having someone's Mars in my 12th. Felt like he was mad at me for something but I didnt know why or what for, and he wouldn't say.
Mars-Pluto is a classic indicator for violence and rage. Having Uranus tacked on there is pretty much just like a lit bomb with no timer on it; you never know when it's gonna blow. Sure, his conjunction falls in her twelfth, the house of the subconscious but you have to remember that the twelfth house is many things; it's also the house of self-undoing and self-destruction as well as hidden enemies. The fact that all that falls in that particular house is a big warning alarm that her own destruction could come out of choosing to get involved with this guy. Sure it probably also indicates that he's extremely attracted to her, but what good is that if she has to worry about him tearing her down or slapping the 5h1t out of her all the time? Plus I worry that with her Venus triggering all that, that his interest in her is probably purely physical - he sees her as a sex object he wants to use more than likely. Yeah, it's not going to last, and it's going to end really badly for one of them - most likely, her. IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy
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posted September 27, 2011 01:49 AM
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Originally posted by woah cakes:
thanks teasel! i thought your analysis was good! and yeah, i should check our synastry again.. the only thing that comes to mind is her saturn is exactly on my jupiter. i dunno if this is responsible for it but she seemed to almost feed off my good energy in a weird sort of addictive manner. usually in a way that was complimentary (libra i guess) but if i'd slip out of it she'd get extremely irritable with me until i became really positive again. it's my chart ruler so it's not some big feat for me to be exhuberant but i found that a bit stifling. oh and her venus is on my saturn, as previously noted. her moon on my chiron, which is another tie in between the three of us (with his sun and venus). of course it makes sense that my saturn and chiron would get the brunt of lame treatment in this lame and not even particularly exciting love triangle, doesn't it?capriquarius, you are hilarious, and probably right on the money. she's an extreme christian but she's also fairly 'wild and crazy' too but yes, i cannot see him tolerating it for a moment and i can definitely see her trying to push it on him rather forcefully eventually.
belligerent pygmy, does uranus/mars typically indicate abuse? and if so, would you think it would be due to the receptive/magnetic nature of venus that such a tendency would be exacerbated or more likely?
oh also, anyone know about my inital neptune squares question from my first post? thanks everyone; you're cheering me up!
Mars-Uranus on their own can indicate an unpredictable temper; those people who just go off on you seemingly out of nowhere. Mars-Pluto makes for rage. Combine all three and you have a powderkeg. IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted September 27, 2011 01:56 AM
ahhh.. yes. i knew that but forgot. the weird thing about him is that i sort of sense this about him but it's VERY well concealed and mostly, it seems, by his venus/sun conjunction which is all smiles and soothing words and batting eyelashes and crap like that. thanks tux. yeah it's interesting they have three tight tense sun/moon aspects and one nice one isn't it? seems they have quite a LIVELY synastry even if it's kinda messed. okay i'll post my synastry with each of them in a few minutes. IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted September 27, 2011 01:56 AM
ahhh.. yes. i knew that but forgot. the weird thing about him is that i sort of sense this about him but it's VERY well concealed and mostly, it seems, by his venus/sun conjunction which is all smiles and soothing words and batting eyelashes and crap like that. thanks tux. yeah it's interesting they have three tight tense sun/moon aspects and one nice one isn't it? seems they have quite a LIVELY synastry even if it's kinda messed. okay i'll post my synastry with each of them in a few minutes. IP: Logged |
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