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Topic: Never been in a relationship... (Natal chart aspects)
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Rosalind
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posted October 02, 2011 01:33 PM
  
Don't stress on it. Being a late-bloomer can be a blessing. You will have more clarity in your first relationship and less heartache overall. When you meet the right guy, he won't mind taking the lead and teaching you to kiss, and you will learn as you go. No worries!I highly disagree with this one. Things should happen at the right time. Being a late bloomer it's not a blessing. Guys from these days are not wasting their time with such women. Also, later bloomers have also frustrations and complexes. They arent anymore young and beautiful. I see myself. I am 25. I have never been in a real relationship, never been loved by a guy, never been appreciated at the right time. What is the point of later? When later? When I will get tired of waiting for someone to appreciate me as I am? No thanks. I pass. IP: Logged |
Cecile
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posted October 02, 2011 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by amelia28:
your rising and house cusps would definitely make a difference. 5th cusp in Pisces is more shy and soft. Water sun, Venus and 5th cusp I am thinking gives you a innocent soft dreamy look but lots of guys love innocence. Honestly by looking at your chart I can't see why you havent been kissed but I think it might be bc you are not flirting and been too passive in the game of love. You need to get more in touch with your Mars in Leo  and I think this will unlock more romantic possibilities in your life.
I agree with you. I have to get in touch with my Mars in Leo more, and that will definitely help out I think I've been coming into my eighth house tendencies too, so that also helps. quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Don't stress on it. Being a late-bloomer can be a blessing. You will have more clarity in your first relationship and less heartache overall. When you meet the right guy, he won't mind taking the lead and teaching you to kiss, and you will learn as you go. No worries!
Thanks for the advice Randall. Hopefully it works out that way. quote:
Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
You've got a heavy eighth house! So do I. Any who that makes you extra choosy when it comes to people and relationships. You've got a highly attuned radar even if consciously it might not seem that way. You can cut through and see people and that makes it hard for you to just get down with anybody. I'm the say way. I had my first kiss at 18 like many others. I didn't feel a connection with anyone in my high school so it happened right after I got to college. I actually wasn't interested in relationships at all in high school. Just focus on yourself and your life and when the times right the universe will set the stage for you to unite with someone who's right for you. Don't try to force things with people even though it feels like you never seem to find the right person, just go with the flow, let things happen as they should.
I think your bang on a about the eighth house stuff. I've been sensing something similar too. There's definitely something to the radar and it might take a lot to "feel a connection" with someone. But when you feel something with someone it's all kinds of intense. Is it the same for you, NativelyJoan? I also have a feeling that someone with a strong eighth house might be subconsciously looking for a very good deal before they commit to relationships or even look at pursuing one. Ie they won't really feel a connection with someone unless they feel that this person can benefit them in a way they can't themselves/on their own. What do you think Natively Joan and others with strong eighth houses? I saw this because it's somewhat similar to my experiences with the guy I felt something with. There was a strong attraction between the two of us and he was an all-around great guy, who would have made a wonderful partner and caring father. But I also felt like he could open up another social world to me that was previously unopen to me before. Although he came from a family with money, I found the social aspect a big positive, moreso than the family money. That's because I'm lacking the social pull myself. Also, if you look at Demi Moore, she also has a strong eight house. I think she has three of her big planets planets in eighth... And well in her marriages, she's always been a part of a Hollywood powercouple. Apparently some of her friends thought she was marrying Bruce Willas to be a part of a Hollywood supercouple. And while they were together they were all that. And she was totally looking to date a younger man after that marriage broke apart. Apparently she dated Colin Farrell before Ashton Kutcher. She got what she wanted with Ashton Kutcher. She's famous as an actres, but she's relevant in 2011 because she's the postergirl for Cougars. So in a way, both of her relationships cemented her status in hollywood. quote:
Originally posted by Rosalind:
I highly disagree with this one. Things should happen at the right time. Being a late bloomer it's not a blessing. Guys from these days are not wasting their time with such women. Also, later bloomers have also frustrations and complexes. They arent anymore young and beautiful. I see myself. I am 25. I have never been in a real relationship, never been loved by a guy, never been appreciated at the right time. What is the point of later? When later? When I will get tired of waiting for someone to appreciate me as I am? No thanks. I pass.
I really want to give you a hug! I really feel like I can empathize with you. I'm so sorry that no one has recognized you for the wonderful person you are. But I can tell you from my last experience, we're not totally screwed. At our age, we're really unlikely to have a very casual first relationship. But there are guys out there who don't mind, and I actually appreciate girls who haven't been around the block. And they're willing to show us the ropes. It's just a matter of finding them. And believe me, even if you've never had any real dating experience, you and a guy can still feel something for each other even if you don't know what your doing. That's what I was worried about to tell you the truth. And if you do spark with someone, its because there is a real attraction between the two of us rather than you having really good flirting skills. But if we do someone, we're more likely to have a real, meaningful relationship rather than a superficial breezy one. And after that, we're on the same playing field with everyone else to do what we want. But I hope the two of us find the right guys to make it happen.
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Rosalind
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posted October 02, 2011 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by Cecile:
I really want to give you a hug! I really feel like I can empathize with you. I'm so sorry that no one has recognized you for the wonderful person you are.
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NativelyJoan
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posted October 02, 2011 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by Cecile:
I think your bang on a about the eighth house stuff. I've been sensing something similar too. There's definitely something to the radar and it might take a lot to "feel a connection" with someone. But when you feel something with someone it's all kinds of intense. Is it the same for you, NativelyJoan?I also have a feeling that someone with a strong eighth house might be subconsciously looking for a very good deal before they commit to relationships or even look at pursuing one. Ie they won't really feel a connection with someone unless they feel that this person can benefit them in a way they can't themselves/on their own. What do you think Natively Joan and others with strong eighth houses? I saw this because it's somewhat similar to my experiences with the guy I felt something with. There was a strong attraction between the two of us and he was an all-around great guy, who would have made a wonderful partner and caring father. But I also felt like he could open up another social world to me that was previously unopen to me before. Although he came from a family with money, I found the social aspect a big positive, moreso than the family money. That's because I'm lacking the social pull myself. Also, if you look at Demi Moore, she also has a strong eight house. I think she has three of her big planets planets in eighth... And well in her marriages, she's always been a part of a Hollywood powercouple. Apparently some of her friends thought she was marrying Bruce Willas to be a part of a Hollywood supercouple. And while they were together they were all that. And she was totally looking to date a younger man after that marriage broke apart. Apparently she dated Colin Farrell before Ashton Kutcher. She got what she wanted with Ashton Kutcher. She's famous as an actres, but she's relevant in 2011 because she's the postergirl for Cougars. So in a way, both of her relationships cemented her status in hollywood.
I definitely think 8th house heavy people are looking to possess something greater then themselves in general and definitely when it comes to relationships. It's a house of transformations. I've had two substantial relationships in my life and they were incredibly intense. The first started when I was a child. We grew up in the same town. We were old friends and our connection was like nothing I've ever experienced and I tend to think that 8th house relationships especially with heavy Saturn are Karmic. It wasn't about physical attraction or personalities. I mean it was intensely emotional and overwhelming and it had nothing to do with our bond as friends. I couldn't talk to him for a long time trying to deal with all the intensity. It took me 11 years to let go of that relationship and deal with the possible Karma attached to it. To this day we can still talk to each other like two sane adults and two very good old friends, but I don't think we could ever forget the depth and truth of what had been between us. For a long time I thought we were meant for each other, but then I realized we were definitely paying the price of past karma because our story was a year of a bliss and 10 of utter hell. I've come to realize that the kind of connection I'm searching for is strictly on a Soul level. Physical appearance, personality, status in life, all those things have no place for me. I'm not searching for anything that can be seen with the human eye. I don't need validation or accessibility from anybody because I've got everything I need with myself. I think it all depends on your place in life with the 8th house. For me I've done the merry go round of relationships, enough to last 80 lifetimes and I'm just looking to continue on my path of evolution, continually growing and transforming. A soul connection, is all I have room to accept, other than that, I'm a lone owl and I'm fine with that. I'm celibate and willing to wait until we enter the next Ice Age.
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noblefish11
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posted October 03, 2011 01:53 AM
I just wanted to add to this.As a 20 year old guy, in the same situation as the girls who have posted their charts above, I can definitely empathize. I've tried to look at my chart and figure out why I have never had a real relationship or first kiss... I mean, I have Venus conjunct my Asc. and Jupiter in the fifth, so I thought I'd be in good shape. I think pretty much everyone who has posted has made really good points. Yes, I do think the fact that we are late bloomers has some advantage-- Our first relationships will be more serious and mature because we are older, and therefore they theoretically should be more likely to last. I've always been very serious about the idea of relationships, and I think that has attributed to my lack of them. However, as Rosalind mentioned, it can be extremely exhausting when you see all your friends happy and in love and all that, and you can't even manage to find someone to feel something for. I can't tell you how many times/people have told me "Fortune comes to those who wait" or "things happen when you aren't expecting them to happen." Let's be honest, these kind of statements only work for a couple years before you start to doubt that you'll ever find anybody. Patience is really important, and to all you ladies who feel this, waiting is worth it, and though it is possibly the most frustrating thing in the world, you will find someone who loves you for you, and not for being someone you're not. Though I'm inexperienced myself in love, I've learned a lot of valuable lessons and "what not to do's" from watching my friends in their relationships. I've seen ultra-intense clingy relationships and then relationships that are more full of conflict that relationships between enemies. Don't feel like you are totally inexperienced, because in the end, you're living, and that in itself teaches you about relationships. It completely sucks to be alone (at least from my perspective) and patience is something that you have to constantly borrow from somewhere, but I KNOW that it'll be worth it. Just trust me.
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Lonake
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posted October 03, 2011 03:17 AM
I have to wonder here, do you guys ever meet people who feel energetically compatible with you? Cos I personally find that hard to fathom that in all these yrs no one fits the profile considering how many diff types of people there are out there. Not trying to be weird or rude but it's just a thought that popped into my head, I go for relationships guided by who I feel in tune with and there's always someone there when I'm ready. There prob shouldn't be according to astro cos I have Cap Venus sq Saturn, so maybe I use my Pisces Sun more to tune into people, I dunno. My point I guess is are you guys approaching it from an analytical perspective, adding pressure to it, or are you feeling it out as you go along, paying attn to other people or more stuck on yourselves? IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted October 03, 2011 03:32 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
I have to wonder here, do you guys ever meet people who feel energetically compatible with you? Cos I personally find that hard to fathom that in all these yrs no one fits the profile considering how many diff types of people there are out there. Not trying to be weird or rude but it's just a thought that popped into my head, I go for relationships guided by who I feel in tune with and there's always someone there when I'm ready. There prob shouldn't be according to astro cos I have Cap Venus sq Saturn, so maybe I use my Pisces Sun more to tune into people, I dunno. My point I guess is are you guys approaching it from an analytical perspective, adding pressure to it, or are you feeling it out as you go along, paying attn to other people or more stuck on yourselves?
Things don't work that way. We don't choose. our heart and body does. The problem is the choices are not the correct ones. There can be also mistakes.
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Lonake
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posted October 03, 2011 03:34 AM
^ That's what I'm sayin, to feel it out. Shrug, another person just glossing over what I write.And if you're never in a relationship then where is the mistake with the other person? "I have never been in a real relationship, never been loved by a guy, never been appreciated at the right time. What is the point of later? When later? When I will get tired of waiting for someone to appreciate me as I am? No thanks. I pass."
---I personally take issue with this cos this approach to relationships is sorta doomed. I have to don my lil Libra cap and ask Where are you appreciating the other person who holds your interest, or is it all about them bending to you?
And what does 'at the right time' have to do with anything? Is there a specific time that works for you to allow someone to appreciate you, a certain schedule they have to adhere to? If that's your big thing then why should it matter when it comes along. If it did per chance come along for you and you had other priorities higher on the list then you have to admit that to yourself.
I hate to see people sad when they haven't found anyone to care for, but it bothers me when they are standing in their own way. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted October 03, 2011 04:43 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ That's what I'm sayin, to feel it out. Shrug, another person just glossing over what I write.And if you're never in a relationship then where is the mistake with the other person? "I have never been in a real relationship, never been loved by a guy, never been appreciated at the right time. What is the point of later? When later? When I will get tired of waiting for someone to appreciate me as I am? No thanks. I pass."
---I personally take issue with this cos this approach to relationships is sorta doomed. I have to don my lil Libra cap and ask Where are you appreciating the other person who holds your interest, or is it all about them bending to you?
And what does 'at the right time' have to do with anything? Is there a specific time that works for you to allow someone to appreciate you, a certain schedule they have to adhere to? If that's your big thing then why should it matter when it comes along. If it did per chance come along for you and you had other priorities higher on the list then you have to admit that to yourself.
I hate to see people sad when they haven't found anyone to care for, but it bothers me when they are standing in their own way.
You didnt understand what I was trying to say. I wont repeat it again. That is your opinion and I respect it. I made my point, end of the story. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted October 03, 2011 05:40 AM
^ Well I know you're bitter about your situation, you made it obvious. I wasn't trying to make you feel better just offering another opinion on the topic. Sometimes people are so stuck in their ruts they don't want to listen to anything that detours from their ingrained thinking process so I can see that's where you are. No worries from me.IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted October 03, 2011 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ Well I know you're bitter about your situation, you made it obvious. I wasn't trying to make you feel better just offering another opinion on the topic. Sometimes people are so stuck in their ruts they don't want to listen to anything that detours from their ingrained thinking process so I can see that's where you are. No worries from me.
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noblefish11
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posted October 03, 2011 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
I have to wonder here, do you guys ever meet people who feel energetically compatible with you? Cos I personally find that hard to fathom that in all these yrs no one fits the profile considering how many diff types of people there are out there. Not trying to be weird or rude but it's just a thought that popped into my head, I go for relationships guided by who I feel in tune with and there's always someone there when I'm ready. There prob shouldn't be according to astro cos I have Cap Venus sq Saturn, so maybe I use my Pisces Sun more to tune into people, I dunno. My point I guess is are you guys approaching it from an analytical perspective, adding pressure to it, or are you feeling it out as you go along, paying attn to other people or more stuck on yourselves?
Hi Lonake! I think for me that I analyze a lot, but that's only because I don't often find people that I feel "in tune" with. A few years ago I felt so connected to this girl, and she never reciprocated my feelings. She knew, and we became very close friends, but nothing more. It's not easy for me to develop feelings for someone because I need to know them really well, so I guess the analyzing just stems from me not feeling anything, and sometimes I feel like I just need to have feelings for someone... that's when the analysis starts. I don't know if I'm making any sense, but there have been some opposite situations with me. Two different girls have "pursued" me before, but unfortunately they just had the wrong energy. My problem is that my Venus is in Aries, but my Moon is in Libra: these are in opposition, showing that it will be difficult for me to find a girl to fall for because she would have to essentially have two completely opposite personalities. The two girls that have pursued me both had the Aries part of it, but not the Libra, which honestly is the part that I think I value more. I just think sometimes our placements aren't ignited easily, and I guess that's just how I feel. IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted October 03, 2011 10:57 AM
noblefish, I know you wrote the message below for Lonake but you write so eloquently that it resonated with me and I wanted to chime in with my two cents if I can.
I completely understand where you're coming from although I'm not your age bracket and don't see anything wrong with being single especially when so young.
You seem a guy who is quite self-aware and mature. This immediately won't be easy as far as finding like-minded people in your age bracket. You blew me off and I'm 41. (hehe)
The main reason I wanted to write back here is your point about having N Venus opp N Moon. You're well-versed and yeah Venus is what attracts you but Moon is (for a man) his ideal type of woman. But sweetie please please please do not take one natal aspect and live your life by it.
Many people are walking talking astro-contradictions. I, for instance, have a Mars-Venus square and a Moon opposite my Venus (and Sun and my entire 10th house stellium).
I have had relationships. I haven't found the one I want to commit to yet but I'm getting there, and you will too.
People overcome their natal aspects with age and maturity.
Just be aware of the self-fulfilled prophecy
of the type "oh, my Venus-Moon opposition means I will be forever single or that I will have a hard time finding the right girl for me". Stop it already. Live your life, ok? It's ok to have a relationship because you just dig the girl even if she's not what your Moon sign wants her to be. It's ok to love someone for being your Moon sign but not be attracted to them because they're not your Venus. It's OK! Love is messy. Life is not perfect. And life is for living.
Anongrl10 quote:
Originally posted by noblefish11:
Hi Lonake!I think for me that I analyze a lot, but that's only because I don't often find people that I feel "in tune" with. A few years ago I felt so connected to this girl, and she never reciprocated my feelings. She knew, and we became very close friends, but nothing more. It's not easy for me to develop feelings for someone because I need to know them really well, so I guess the analyzing just stems from me not feeling anything, and sometimes I feel like I just need to have feelings for someone... that's when the analysis starts. I don't know if I'm making any sense, but there have been some opposite situations with me. Two different girls have "pursued" me before, but unfortunately they just had the wrong energy. My problem is that my Venus is in Aries, but my Moon is in Libra: these are in opposition, showing that it will be difficult for me to find a girl to fall for because she would have to essentially have two completely opposite personalities. The two girls that have pursued me both had the Aries part of it, but not the Libra, which honestly is the part that I think I value more. I just think sometimes our placements aren't ignited easily, and I guess that's just how I feel.
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NativelyJoan
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posted October 03, 2011 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
I have to wonder here, do you guys ever meet people who feel energetically compatible with you? Cos I personally find that hard to fathom that in all these yrs no one fits the profile considering how many diff types of people there are out there. Not trying to be weird or rude but it's just a thought that popped into my head, I go for relationships guided by who I feel in tune with and there's always someone there when I'm ready. There prob shouldn't be according to astro cos I have Cap Venus sq Saturn, so maybe I use my Pisces Sun more to tune into people, I dunno. My point I guess is are you guys approaching it from an analytical perspective, adding pressure to it, or are you feeling it out as you go along, paying attn to other people or more stuck on yourselves?
I think it's too complicated to be a simple yes or no answer or to specifically diagnosis and give a solution to each situation. I have been in relationships so I'm not exactly in the same boat as those who this might be specifically directed towards, however I can relate. Many things go into compatibility, drawing the right kind of people and experiences to you, universal timing, being connected to spirit. I don't think there is consciously anything you can do to attract a healthy relationship, I think you need to take care of yourself and follow your own path and see where it leads. I'm a highly aware individual and I connect with people very quickly, I can see right through them thanks to my heavy 8th house. This however doesn't make me walk away from new friendships it just makes me more discriminate about pursuing anything more. As far as loneliness goes, I never feel that way because I'm very connected to myself and my environment. I never need anything more than myself to keep me happy, I know what pleases me and I focus on myself. When I was younger and not fully connected to myself, I was somewhat envious of people in their relationships until I better understood myself. I could and still can predict the beginning and end of everything in my life including my own and my friends relationships. To me it's just tedious going up and down on a roller coaster of relationships. The things I'm searching for can't easily be found so I just do my own thing and go on my own way. As I do this I find things being drawn to me to help me grow and evolve, because I'm centered in myself I welcome those experiences openly. IP: Logged |
noblefish11
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posted October 03, 2011 11:24 AM
Hey anongrl10!Thanks for your reply! I know that it's definitely fine that I'm single right now because I am young. Often times I forget that, and I feel like I constantly have to be reminded of that fact. I guess when I brought up my Moon Venus opposition, I wasn't really trying to hide behind it, I was more trying to use it to explain that I just haven't found the right person yet. i would hate to use that as a crutch. I guess for me part of what I need to do is find a happy medium between being too picky and not picky enough. Neither of the two girls I mentioned were girls I was interested in. We didn't connect emotionally, mentally, nor was there any physical attraction. I feel like my main issue is not that I'm letting good girls pass me by, but that I can't ever seem to find a girl that I'm interested in, and when I finally do, she never feels the same way. In a lot of ways, I'm not really sure I know what love is, because I think everyone searches for a different kind of love, but I feel like I'm too young to know. But I really appreciate your advice! It's nice to know that people understand where I'm coming from. It's just so interesting for me that I have so many women friends (more so than friends of the same sex) and that I know that I was raised right, to treat women with respect and be a good partner, but I just haven't had the chance to prove it I guess. We'll see what happens. I wish you the best of luck as well with finding the right person! It's a challenge, but it can be fun, right? IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted October 03, 2011 11:34 AM
Noblefish, it sure is fun! And your "problem" is not even *yours* exclusively! I mean the problem you mentioned that you can't find many interesting people to date and when you do find interesting ones, they don't seem to find you as interesting! This is such a common problem for many people across the age and gender axes.
Life is truly a mystery. I know a person in my family who never dated and she ended up marrying her first bf (I, on the other hand who started dating early, I have not been married yet).
Life mostly is what you make of it. That's what I have seen so far.
So, have patience and trust life and your own inner voice. You'll get ready. And when the student is ready the teacher appears.
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NativelyJoan
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posted October 03, 2011 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by noblefish11:
Hey anongrl10!Thanks for your reply! I know that it's definitely fine that I'm single right now because I am young. Often times I forget that, and I feel like I constantly have to be reminded of that fact. I guess when I brought up my Moon Venus opposition, I wasn't really trying to hide behind it, I was more trying to use it to explain that I just haven't found the right person yet. i would hate to use that as a crutch. I guess for me part of what I need to do is find a happy medium between being too picky and not picky enough. Neither of the two girls I mentioned were girls I was interested in. We didn't connect emotionally, mentally, nor was there any physical attraction. I feel like my main issue is not that I'm letting good girls pass me by, but that I can't ever seem to find a girl that I'm interested in, and when I finally do, she never feels the same way. In a lot of ways, I'm not really sure I know what love is, because I think everyone searches for a different kind of love, but I feel like I'm too young to know. But I really appreciate your advice! It's nice to know that people understand where I'm coming from. It's just so interesting for me that I have so many women friends (more so than friends of the same sex) and that I know that I was raised right, to treat women with respect and be a good partner, but I just haven't had the chance to prove it I guess. We'll see what happens. I wish you the best of luck as well with finding the right person! It's a challenge, but it can be fun, right?
NobleFish, I don't think you can ever be to young to know love. To allow it to flow freely might take mental and emotional maturity, however I think anyone at any age can be exposed to love. Allowing unconditional love to flow between you and others. I'm a Libra Sun, Aries Moon and after reading your Venus-Moon description, I wanted to point out that you are playing a balancing game in your personality and therefore overtime will naturally draw someone who's also played a balancing game in theirs. Meaning as a balanced being you will naturally attract other balanced beings. Uniting with someone who is dominant one or the other might through your balance off and it's great that you've become already very aware of this. I've been playing the balancing game my whole life and it doesn't work at least from my experience if I attempt to unite with someone who is dominant one of those traits. Like you said with the Aries you needed that Air of Libra to balance that out, I'm the same except with relationships I've done the Aquarius and Leo balancing game. My Ascendant in Aquarius directly opposite my Venus in Leo. I attract both Aquarians and Leonine's and feel imbalanced with both unless they are balanced in themselves. Learn how to balance all the energies in yourself and you will naturally and cosmically attract someone as centered as yourself. IP: Logged |
Cecile
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posted October 03, 2011 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
I have to wonder here, do you guys ever meet people who feel energetically compatible with you? Cos I personally find that hard to fathom that in all these yrs no one fits the profile considering how many diff types of people there are out there. Not trying to be weird or rude but it's just a thought that popped into my head, I go for relationships guided by who I feel in tune with and there's always someone there when I'm ready. There prob shouldn't be according to astro cos I have Cap Venus sq Saturn, so maybe I use my Pisces Sun more to tune into people, I dunno. My point I guess is are you guys approaching it from an analytical perspective, adding pressure to it, or are you feeling it out as you go along, paying attn to other people or more stuck on yourselves?
Yup I met someone whose energy was compatible with me. I'm heavy in Cancer-Scorpio for Venus, so I'm looking for security in love, but I have Mars in Leo, so dating needs to be a lot of the fun. The guy from last year, he had a Venus in Taurus, but this came across in a very dominant way, and he had Sun and Moon in Aries (so I think that was close enough to Leo) and yes he was a lot fun. Coincidentally, I found out that our energies were "compatible" after we sparked. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted October 03, 2011 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by noblefish11:
my Venus is in Aries, but my Moon is in Libra: these are in opposition
Hi Noble, Do your Moon/Venus form a t-square with another planet?
Also I really wanna emphasize that people are v.complex, you see this when you start to look at charts most, if not all, folks are running around with psyches that they more or less try to keep in working order but that are known to bounce all over the place and throw them into a tailspin. I am definitely one of those complex folks, and sometimes it has meant appeasing one side of my personality in a relationship while the other sits on the back burner unacknowledged and sighing boo-hoo but that's always been when the unacknowledged side wasn't really ready to make an appearance for whatever reason, fear or disinterest, it varied. My point of course is that there is def someone out there who can embody the Aries Libra dynamic for you (if that is what you wish).
If you value Libra more I would suggest playing up Libra showing that side of your nature and knowing the 'signals' that heavily Libra influenced gals give off to give them away. It could end up being a girl with Libra Asc conj Mars then she has Mars/Asc for the Aries vibe and of course the Asc Libra, and an Aries Dsc that would match up nicely with your Venus (matching her Dsc with your Venus means you both conceptualize relationships in a similar fashion, similar ideals, etc). Or she could have an Aries Sun conj Venus or Libra Sun conj Mars, so you can see there are lots of ways that may not seem overly apparent at first when you think of charts that could def be a match for you. Or if it is Venus that you need then Venus conj their Asc/Sun/Moon in any sign will tend to lean that person to heavily embodying the Venusian archetype. But first (ime) you would need to put out the sort of energy you want to attract, makes it easier to recognize for one.
Also personally I want to say that the Venus Aries men I've known have expected women to come to them while they waited on the sidelines, they wanted their ladies to make the first move, so you have that possibly? I'm not sure. And then the Libra Moon men have wanted someone sweet gentle peaceful, maybe someone that makes them look good just like your basic Venusian. So maybe your config is more comfy with attracting rather than pursuing. (I don't know your Sun/Mars/ASC) I think you're putting out the Aries & that was drawing Aries to you, and when you saw em up close realized they weren't what the doctor ordered. This thinking might be too simplistic but putting out the Libra in a more obvious manner might attract that type more to you. But I think Aries types will prob always want to ride your train since you have both signs personalized. Or you could own your Venus completely and engage in pursuit.I know some of this because I embody at least 2 oppositions: Pisces/Virgo and Leo/Aquarius, you could also make a good argument for Taurus/Scorpio & Cancer/Capricorn by the way my chart is wired so it is possible 
I feel like in this post I'm speaking of generalities since I don't know your chart but I think your Venus/Moon signs being that you're male play a big role here but I would not discount Sun/Mars/ASC either in your potential to go for what you want.
Btw is Saturn over your Moon or has it passed? That could be a good time of re-evaluating relationships and any rut you've fallen into. Uranus could be past or getting closer to your Venus, that time could point to some sudden love interest. IP: Logged |
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posted October 03, 2011 10:43 PM
Hello Lonake!Wow, you definitely hit hard on a lot of what I've got going on. I'll give you some of my placements so you can better "see" what's up. I'm an 11 degree Pisces Sun with a 0 degree Conjunction with Mercury, I have my Moon at 4 degrees Libra opposed to my Venus at 10 degrees Aries, conjunct my Aries Ascendent. My Venus conjunct my ascendent forms a T-square with my Libra Moon in the 6th house and the apex is my Uranus in the 10th house. My Moon rules my 5th house, and my Venus rules my 7th house, so that's why I've had so much difficulty with relationships, I think. Also, ironically enough that you mentioned it, Saturn has been transiting through my 7th house... it passed over my moon a few months ago I think, but it's been in my 7th house, and I've been constantly reevaluating my close friendships/relationship ideals. Uranus currently opposes my Moon, Pluto is conjunct my Midheaven square my Moon, and Uranus is getting closer to conjuncting my Venus/Ascendent. IP: Logged |
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posted October 03, 2011 10:43 PM
Hello Lonake!Wow, you definitely hit hard on a lot of what I've got going on. I'll give you some of my placements so you can better "see" what's up. I'm an 11 degree Pisces Sun with a 0 degree Conjunction with Mercury, I have my Moon at 4 degrees Libra opposed to my Venus at 10 degrees Aries, conjunct my Aries Ascendent. My Venus conjunct my ascendent forms a T-square with my Libra Moon in the 6th house and the apex is my Uranus in the 10th house. My Moon rules my 5th house, and my Venus rules my 7th house, so that's why I've had so much difficulty with relationships, I think. Also, ironically enough that you mentioned it, Saturn has been transiting through my 7th house... it passed over my moon a few months ago I think, but it's been in my 7th house, and I've been constantly reevaluating my close friendships/relationship ideals. Uranus currently opposes my Moon, Pluto is conjunct my Midheaven square my Moon, and Uranus is getting closer to conjuncting my Venus/Ascendent. IP: Logged |
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posted October 03, 2011 10:43 PM
Hello Lonake!Wow, you definitely hit hard on a lot of what I've got going on. I'll give you some of my placements so you can better "see" what's up. I'm an 11 degree Pisces Sun with a 0 degree Conjunction with Mercury, I have my Moon at 4 degrees Libra opposed to my Venus at 10 degrees Aries, conjunct my Aries Ascendent. My Venus conjunct my ascendent forms a T-square with my Libra Moon in the 6th house and the apex is my Uranus in the 10th house. My Moon rules my 5th house, and my Venus rules my 7th house, so that's why I've had so much difficulty with relationships, I think. Also, ironically enough that you mentioned it, Saturn has been transiting through my 7th house... it passed over my moon a few months ago I think, but it's been in my 7th house, and I've been constantly reevaluating my close friendships/relationship ideals. Uranus currently opposes my Moon, Pluto is conjunct my Midheaven square my Moon, and Uranus is getting closer to conjuncting my Venus/Ascendent. IP: Logged |
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posted October 03, 2011 10:55 PM
Sorry I posted three times... I was struggling with the Internet.Anyways, I like your suggestions about how to act and such... I think I do kind of wait around for someone to show interest... well sort of. Let me explain. I'm not the most confident person in the world (Sun and Mercury in XII) and I really need to know that a girl is interested in me before I make a move. I really need to know the girl well before I act, which I guess some people don't understand. But I think my main issue right now is that I just don't have anyone that I'm interested in. I have plenty of girl friends, and they are all great, but I guess I'm just wishing there was a spark... I don't know if that makes sense, but I want it to FEEL right. I know that love takes time, and it's about knowing the person and stuff, but I need to feel. It's in my Piscean nature I guess. IP: Logged |
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posted October 03, 2011 11:02 PM
Also, I think I put off a very good mix of Libra and Aries... I have LOADS of energy, but I'm very charming and friendly. I always smile at people and say hello. I just think at this point in my life, girls aren't looking for the type of guy that I am.I know plenty of Libra women... ironically enough the girl I thought I was in love with in High School was a Libra with her Moon in Pisces conjunct my Sun. Also, her Sun was directly conjunct my Ascendent. But I think she's Scorpio rising, so I guess she didn't feel the attraction. IP: Logged |
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posted October 04, 2011 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by noblefish11:
I'm an 11 degree Pisces Sun with a 0 degree Conjunction with Mercury, I have my Moon at 4 degrees Libra opposed to my Venus at 10 degrees Aries, conjunct my Aries Ascendent.
OK I don't see Mars mentioned but from what is there I see a lot of romantic and sensitive energy. Aries/Libra/Pisces are all intensely romantic signs (and of course Venus planet of romance is strong for you) and all are quite sensitive to a certain extent..Pisces more than the others, but Aries is too. Aries ASC really drives home the fact that Aries types will identify with you and you'll easily draw them to you or vice versa.
The opp of ruler h5 to ruler h7 across asc/dsc says to me you need Libra Moon energy to get a relationship going (h5) but that your natural partnerships are really about showing you who you are in a more assertive manner, basically bypassing what your Libra Moon wants to feel comfy & to get its feet wet to be ready to walk into a space where relating can take place. Maybe you felt with those Aries types that that's what you would eventually be meeting in relationships but it felt like a sudden push that you weren't ready for? If you have Dsc ruler conj Asc I really think you do want the partner to be Arian in a strong way, to make a passion play for you as it were, to bring out your inner warrior, but the Aries Asc is sorta hampered in a way since it's conj Venus which is the complete opposite energy. Do you feel like on one level you want women to teach you how to be more assertive but at the same time you want them to lead you with a gentle sweet (Libra) hand? I don't personally think that you were completely turned off by the Aries from what I see. You prob just don't like gruff masculine energy cos it makes the Libra Moon do a sour face, get queasy and feel ill.
It sounds like with your friends you have no probs attracting feminine energy. I guess it may be more of a matter of meeting the right person who sparks you in a way but does not turn you off with macho energy.
Uranus into a tsquare adds more interest. I asked about a tsquare cos often they can be easily remedied when you incorporate the sign energy that is the missing leg. If yours is Cancer in the 4th (opp Uranus in 10th to complete grand cross) like it sounds then that to me obv. points to letting yourself be vulnerable and allowing yourself emotional expression since it will work to balance out the erratic Uranian energy that may cause some upset. You may be left acting out not knowing where to turn, why relationships end all of a sudden, why you can't feel comfy no matter what method you use, what can you grasp to feel safe and that safety can be found in going for an emotional connection. Cancer in the 4th is really digging deep tho, 4th is the private self so maybe there is something unacknowledged there in your past that plagues you, I don't know, but 4th is our roots so it says to go back to your roots and secure a stable home base for yourself where you both give and receive emotional support so you won't be so thrown by your Moon/Venus/Uranus and can have the energy moving instead of feeling stuck there. Cancer in the 4th is an incredibly emotionally expressive energy so if you don't already the remedy it says is to express emotion in the home with those close to you. I'm not gonna lie here, it could get ugly so your Libra/Venus energy has to be prepared, Cancer can store some really grimy and nasty feelings, but express it in a safe place and you will be rewarded since it will become a strength for you. Actually Venus/Libra can get in the way of this since Venus wants to put on a nice pleasant facade and just mingle, just be light and be adored. Cancer in the 4th says you're relying too much on appearances since it's sq Venus on Asc, you're being thrown emotionally by your partnerships since it's sq Moon near the Dsc and with the opp to Uranus h10 it can say that no matter how much you try to set yourself apart you are still a person with feelings who needs to remember that there is more to life than what the world thinks, it's also deep down (h4) what you think of yourself, what you know to be true that no one can tarnish or take away cos it's you saying you have soft spots that can be hurt. Your h10 rep could be ruined, hopes dashed, things like that happen, h10 is v.public spot but for you it doesn't guarantee any stability, so you need to reach inward to achieve that. I know I'm on a tangent here but I feel this may play a big part in some reconciling that tsquare people need to do."I just think at this point in my life, girls aren't looking for the type of guy that I am."
---This may be the case with younger women sometimes they get stuck in running after bad boys. They're not all like that ime. With the Uranus she's gonna need Aquarius/Uranus influences as well.
Also personal planets or asc opp your Uranus could be a big draw. IP: Logged | |
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