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Earthbound37
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posted September 29, 2011 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earthbound37     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, I am 18 and have never been in any kind of intimate relationship (never even been kissed!). Now, I know that I'm not alone in that respect, but at times it does bother me, which I assume to be normal for some single girls my age. I guess what I'm really looking for is some kind of explanation regarding my situation based on my natal chart. Is it because of my sun opposing pluto or the conjunction with saturn? How exactly are my natal aspects, houses, and rulers affecting my single status? I would sincerely appreciate any shared experiences or advice!

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posted September 29, 2011 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there! Interesting chart you have, with all those planets on the angles.

I also don't think it's unusual to have not been kissed by 18 years old. I didn't get my first kiss until I was 19 and that was only because some drunk leaned over and kissed me (yuck!).

Age aside however, you have your North Node in your 7th House. Your lesson in this incarnation is to work on your one-to-one relationships, with marriage being the ultimate challenge. 7th House North Node people are very independent. You are born knowing how to go it alone and be fine with it. So....I think the reason for your not being in a relationship yet is because you are fine being independent. But, cooperation with a partner will lead to the evolution of your soul in this lifetime, because that is unfamiliar territory. Your vertex is in Libra, so you WILL draw in opportunities to work on relationships.

You have Venus trine Mars, and in fire signs to boot, so I don't think you'll have problems in the romance department as you get older.

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posted September 29, 2011 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you still in high school? Are you involved in any extra-cullicular activities?

You should get out there - go to places you like - do things you enjoy... where you can meet like-minded people.

You seem 'picky' romantically - so you probably won't go for just anyone.. with that Leonine Mars trine Aries Venus.
You need a larger pool of men to choose from - so you have to meet more people basically, to find the right one.

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insideintrovert
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posted September 29, 2011 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for insideintrovert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No worries, I did not get my first boyfriend till I was 18 and in Tech School.

Some people are late bloomers and I really wouldn't put much stock into astrology and depending on the stars when love will arrive in your life. The time will come and then you get to experience the adventure of being in a relationship.

The words that repulsed me the most when I was 18 was "Oh you have your life ahead of you, concentate on your life and don't be so worried about being in a relationship." However, how extremely repulsing it was to hear and it really nagered me so - the person actually knew what they were talking about. I was too blind and believed a relationship was the be all and end all for me.

I'm surprise with Jupiter in the 5th, you don't have a line of suitors knocking on your door. Maybe with Saturn con Moon in Pisces, you might not feel emotionally esteemed to become like Sadie Hawkins and ask guys out for a coffee. If you want to be in a relationship bad enough, one must pursue it. (I have seen my friends do this and poo poo being single).

My 2 cents worth any how.

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posted September 29, 2011 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys I'm in a similar situation. I'm a 24 year old girl and I've yet to have a boyfriend or even my first kiss. Can you pick anything out in my chart that might be causing this?

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amelia28
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posted September 29, 2011 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Are you still in high school? Are you involved in any extra-cullicular activities?

You should get out there - go to places you like - do things you enjoy... where you can meet like-minded people.

You seem 'picky' romantically - so you probably won't go for just anyone.. with that Leonine Mars trine Aries Venus.
You need a larger pool of men to choose from - so you have to meet more people basically, to find the right one.


Mars in Leo or Aries in Venus makes you picky????? I thought Virgo in Venus makes you picky romantically..

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posted September 29, 2011 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cecile:
Hey guys I'm in a similar situation. I'm a 24 year old girl and I've yet to have a boyfriend or even my first kiss. Can you pick anything out in my chart that might be causing this?


I dont get it..I have moon in pisces like you, mars in Leo like you and Aries in the 5th house like you and I am the type to be at a club and start kissing a complete stranger whom I feel chemistry with and get away with it. I am really surprised to hear you have never been kissed, with Aries in cusp 5th you are suppose to be aggressive in romance and like to have fun. However, my mars does trine my aries 5th house. The cusp where aries is at is the house were you tend to start over a lot and it means that part of your life you tend to put FIRST. Maybe the cancer in venus and moon in pisces makes you really shy but I would think that the Mars in Leo and 5 cusp aries would make you put yourself out there and make you pursue what you want romantically as I am.

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posted September 29, 2011 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
I dont get it..I have moon in pisces like you, mars in Leo like you and Aries in the 5th house like you and I am the type to be at a club and start kissing a complete stranger whom I feel chemistry with and get away with it. I am really surprised to hear you have never been kissed with Aries in cusp 5th you are suppose to be aggressive in romance and like to have fun. The cusp where aries is at is the house were you tend to start over a lot and it means that part of your life you tend to put FIRST. Maybe the cancer in venus trine moon in pisces makes you really shy but I would think that the Mars in Leo and 5 cusp aries would make you put yourself out there and make you pursue what you want romantically as I am.

There's a bit of a correction factor with my chart. I don't have my exact time of birth, its actually off by fourty minutes or so, but my mother has told me my house placement. I have moon in pisces on the cusp of fifth and jupiter in aries on sixth. Does that change things up?

But I know what your saying to about the Mars in Leo. I'm definitely attracted to fun boys.

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posted September 29, 2011 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Mars in Leo or Aries in Venus makes you picky????? I thought Virgo in Venus makes you picky romantically..

They are picky for very different reasons.
Aries Venus & Leo Mars are both very idealistic placements - everything has to be perfect and feel exciting/interesting - more like a movie script than real life.
A person with these placements would need a high level of emotional intensity in a lover.
Not everyone is intense enough for them ^

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posted September 29, 2011 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, Earthbound - when you have the trine, men who turn this into a grand trine with their own Venus/Mars placements.. will be your best partners imo
In your case, it would be men with Venus and/or Mars in Sagittarius.. in aspect to your Venus/Mars.

I have the Venus/Mars trine in earth - Taurus and Capricorn.. and I love Virgo Venus men.

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amelia28
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posted September 30, 2011 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your rising and house cusps would definitely make a difference. 5th cusp in Pisces is more shy and soft. Water sun, Venus and 5th cusp I am thinking gives you a innocent soft dreamy look but lots of guys love innocence. Honestly by looking at your chart I can't see why you havent been kissed but I think it might be bc you are not flirting and been too passive in the game of love. You need to get more in touch with your Mars in Leo and I think this will unlock more romantic possibilities in your life.

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Randall
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posted September 30, 2011 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't stress on it. Being a late-bloomer can be a blessing. You will have more clarity in your first relationship and less heartache overall. When you meet the right guy, he won't mind taking the lead and teaching you to kiss, and you will learn as you go. No worries!

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amelia28
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posted September 30, 2011 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Betty Boop:
They are picky for very different reasons.
Aries Venus & Leo Mars are both very idealistic placements - everything has to be perfect and feel exciting/interesting - more like a movie script than real life.
A person with these placements would need a high level of emotional intensity in a lover.
Not everyone is intense enough for them ^

Betty I have venus and mars in Leo and I am definitely picky in the sense you mean . You are right on! I love your analysis on things.

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Earthbound37
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posted September 30, 2011 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earthbound37     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capriquarius - Wow, thank you so much for that interpretation. I really am independent to the core, but I definitely do still find myself drawn to figuring out my relationships with people (due to the NN, I'm sure).

Betty Boop - I actually just started college in a great city, so I really am optimistic about things changing for me, romantically speaking. Pickiness is the most probable culprit for my inexperience; I just could never find anyone to really share myself with. I really am idealistic about love as you suggest! Thanks for that

Randall - I find that really reassuring, I just have to remind myself of that! Thanks

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amelia28
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posted September 30, 2011 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just caught on to the fact that you both have aries in northnode and every person I have met that has aries in northnode tend to be single whether male or female. This guy I dated for like 2 months has aries in northnode and his longest relationship was 4 months (he is 24 years old). My ex best friend for over 10 years has northnode in aries and she is 29 years old now and has never had a boyfriend all she attracts and finds herself been attracted to is men who are taken. It seems that deep down aries nothnode likes been single its my take in it and even though consciously aries northnode wants to be in a relationship I think unconsciously they do not. The guy I saw for two months he was with me while I was with someone. Aries northnode seems to be attracted to what is unavailable bc its safe, having feelings for someone they will never be with ensures their independence. Or perhaps Aries northnode really likes a challenge but as soon as person is available lose interest!

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amelia28
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posted September 30, 2011 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to add that I do admire a lot how aries northnode people are comfortable been single and dont seem to NEED to be in a relationship. I ADMIRE A LOT HOW INDEPENDENT ARIES NORTHNODE IS!! Its a very attractive quality.

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posted September 30, 2011 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries NN came here with a Libra SN so throughout the course of their life they may be pulled toward being more self-focused and determined than they are used to. It's a v.creative placement. But it does not factor heavily into any individual remaining single.

H5 energy is appropriate for this thread, as it signifies the start of romances, general relating patterns before commitment.
Earthbound you have Virgo on H5 cusp which can be a picky sign, and it's ruler Mercury is conj Sun and Asc so your romantic energy may have been funneled into self-expression, making sure you were heard by others in general and that you were seen as a person of serious substance, you were prob preoccupied with plodding towards a practical goal. Mercury is in the 12th technically which can add a secretive element to romantic house 5 matters, maybe you held the torch silently for a few people but for whatever reason didn't feel comfy coming right out and saying it and getting the ball rolling there. Sun/Mercury is opp Pluto and sq Saturn which can in itself thwart self expression but you still try v.hard to get your ideas out there. Your father is implicated here, maybe he had a close eye on you and you didn't want to disappoint him or he didn't want you dating just anyone, I'm not sure, but there could be some inhibition on your part thanks to his influence and it would directly affect your romantic life. You have ruler of h4 opp ruler of h7 across asc/dsc so maybe there was marital tension between your parents and that led you to see relationships as unequal and doomed on some level. There are a few possible interpretations there. There's a danger of attracting partners who might steamroll right over you or you doing same to them. With Scorp Pluto in the 7th it's prob not an area you see as frivolous.

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posted September 30, 2011 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 30, 2011 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Earthbound and Cecile.

Have a look at the lilith corridor thread. I think there is something to be said about this and scaring men off.

I just find it amazing to look at the charts of others who it isn't as obvious as me to tell why they aren't in relationship.

Earthbound- Follow your NN in Aries not your moon in Pisces. Aries initiates, so you should ask, not him.

I haven't ever had a relationship either and I'm 21, my first kiss was when I was 20 and I kissed him (mainly because I didn't want my first kiss with some gross aussie guy)
My chart is here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/208155.html

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posted September 30, 2011 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for insideintrovert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AMEN to this post! He's right on the money!


quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Don't stress on it. Being a late-bloomer can be a blessing. You will have more clarity in your first relationship and less heartache overall. When you meet the right guy, he won't mind taking the lead and teaching you to kiss, and you will learn as you go. No worries!

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posted September 30, 2011 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earthbound37     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:

H5 energy is appropriate for this thread, as it signifies the start of romances, general relating patterns before commitment.
Earthbound you have Virgo on H5 cusp which can be a picky sign, and it's ruler Mercury is conj Sun and Asc so your romantic energy may have been funneled into self-expression, making sure you were heard by others in general and that you were seen as a person of serious substance, you were prob preoccupied with plodding towards a practical goal. Mercury is in the 12th technically which can add a secretive element to romantic house 5 matters, maybe you held the torch silently for a few people but for whatever reason didn't feel comfy coming right out and saying it and getting the ball rolling there. Sun/Mercury is opp Pluto and sq Saturn which can in itself thwart self expression but you still try v.hard to get your ideas out there. Your father is implicated here, maybe he had a close eye on you and you didn't want to disappoint him or he didn't want you dating just anyone, I'm not sure, but there could be some inhibition on your part thanks to his influence and it would directly affect your romantic life. You have ruler of h4 opp ruler of h7 across asc/dsc so maybe there was marital tension between your parents and that led you to see relationships as unequal and doomed on some level. There are a few possible interpretations there. There's a danger of attracting partners who might steamroll right over you or you doing same to them. With Scorp Pluto in the 7th it's prob not an area you see as frivolous.

Lonake, your interpretation is quite spot on. I know that I am young but I feel that my life thus far has been invested in succeeding academically, probably due to the Mercury conjunction. Now that I'm in college, I feel like it's time to really focus on things of a more personal substance, like romance and friends. My need for academic success does stem out of my need for approval, particularly that of my father. I am also the youngest in my family, so there's always been a tone of sentimentality as far as my personal life is concerned; I'm the "baby" so it can be disconcerting to my family when I act like an adult. I can only imagine how sensitive my father will be when, or if, I do find a romantic partner! Needless to say, I am inhibited. As far as my parents' marriage is concerned, it definitely was very volatile growing up with an emphasis on money issues. I think that it's caused me to want a marriage different from theirs, stable and financially secure (I am a taurus ). With Mercury and Venus interpreted in the 12th, the types I've always been attracted to are musicians and intellectuals. The one person in my life that I was intensely infatuated with was in fact a teacher of mine! Naturally, I couldn't really act on that... I guess also that I am concerned about the emphasis of Pluto in my chart. It seems quite intimidating! I am a bit worried about the types I may attract and how the plutonian influence will play out in any future relationships I may have. Any thoughts?

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posted September 30, 2011 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cecile:
Hey guys I'm in a similar situation. I'm a 24 year old girl and I've yet to have a boyfriend or even my first kiss. Can you pick anything out in my chart that might be causing this?


You've got a heavy eighth house! So do I. Any who that makes you extra choosy when it comes to people and relationships. You've got a highly attuned radar even if consciously it might not seem that way. You can cut through and see people and that makes it hard for you to just get down with anybody. I'm the say way. I had my first kiss at 18 like many others. I didn't feel a connection with anyone in my high school so it happened right after I got to college. I actually wasn't interested in relationships at all in high school.

Just focus on yourself and your life and when the times right the universe will set the stage for you to unite with someone who's right for you. Don't try to force things with people even though it feels like you never seem to find the right person, just go with the flow, let things happen as they should.

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posted October 01, 2011 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never thought about looking at my chart to understand why I have never been in a relationship. Anyway, I am 21, soon 22 and in the very same situation (never been in a relationship, never been kissed) I have never been seriously apporoached neither: guys don't seem to show interest.
Here is my chart:

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However though the chart can give us an idea about the type of person people see us as. I belive that being in a relationship early or late and the number of them could have something to do with karma right?

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posted October 01, 2011 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 01, 2011 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would listen to Randall on this one.
You're too young to worry about being single and the right guy will have no problems with being your first (that's actually pretty special).

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Originally posted by Randall:
Don't stress on it. Being a late-bloomer can be a blessing. You will have more clarity in your first relationship and less heartache overall. When you meet the right guy, he won't mind taking the lead and teaching you to kiss, and you will learn as you go. No worries!

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