posted October 16, 2011 10:08 AM            

Or Moon Square Mars

posted October 16, 2011 10:12 AM            

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posted October 16, 2011 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
Mars/Saturn hard aspects(even 135 or 45 degrees)
Mars/Pluto aspects
Venus/PLuto for rape
Venus/Mars is not enough though.
Mercury/PLuto hard aspects-> definitely
Pluto,Mars in 8th or 12th maybe.
Some say moon square venus can make someone cruel because you are never satisfied in relationship you tend to become selfish so forget spouse demands and act depending on yours etc... This is just my opinions and observations and they can be wrong of course.

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Interesting Mert
Could I come back and ask you some questions about these, Darling?

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posted October 16, 2011 11:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Interesting Mert
Could I come back and ask you some questions about these, Darling?

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posted October 16, 2011 01:04 PM            

By the way, what do you think of this guy's chart?

posted October 16, 2011 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Doreen:

Or Moon Square Mars

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posted October 16, 2011 02:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Fuzzy:
I think I'll agree with Mars square Uranus.
People with this aspect don't like waiting for whatever they want, and they have a lot of energy and a short temper... I guess this could be the "angry" rapist.

Desire to torture is probably more Plutonian. People with Mars-Pluto aspects attract abuse and can be abusive themselves. I feel like any hard Pluto aspects to personal planets (except maybe Mercury) make a person like BDSM...

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posted October 16, 2011 02:25 PM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
mars in 12th house?
Mars square uranus?

I had an ex that told me once he had thoughts about rape, and according to him of course would never do it but still, the fact he thought about it is kinda freaky no?

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Did he grew up in catholic school? In an environment that taught him that having sex before marriage is wrong?

I find that growing up in this type of environment can result in strange desires until this internal conflict between what he or she was taught and their desire to express their sexuality is resolved.

Until it is resolved person might engage in taboo sex and then feel guilty about it and be stuck in this cycle because they grew up in an environment were they were not allow to express their sexuality and hence integrate this part of themselves into their personality in a healthy manner.

posted October 16, 2011 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by frankie2912:
moon square mars, mars square uranus, pluto conjunct asc. i have all these..and i have some pretty taboo, dark, twisted f*cked up desires

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It must be the mars square Uranus as mars rules aggression and sexuality and Uranus likes anything different and outside the norm and square means that person needs to learn to balance the expression of these two energies in this lifetime. This would make sense for the rape portion. I am thinking for the murder portion mars square pluto but mars must be involved bc it rules aggression and a square must be involved bc the aggression is not been expressed in a balance way.

Were mars land is what triggers the mars square aggression. If in the 6th, work related stress. If in the 12th repressed anger. If in the 4th, past hurts or home life stress. If in the 7th, relationship conflict. In the 2nd, financial stress, In the 3rd having problems understanding something, road rage (short distance travel), sibling conflict and conflict with neighbors. The 8th, not getting enough sex, the 5th, someone messing with your children, art or business or conflict with your children. In the 10th, someone messing with your reputation. In the 11th, someone messing with your hopes and dreams or with your friends, In the 9th obstacles in relation to long distance travel or difficulty understanding abstract concepts Ect....

The 8th rules desire, death and sex so perhaps if the person has a square between mars and pluto or mars and uranus where one of the planets falls in the 8th could be your answer...But then again Ted Bundy's prominent house in his chart is the 4th house so perhaps his anger stemmed from childhood trauma and so house placement is just a clue as to where the anger comes from and the aspects is more the predisposition of the desire to murder, rape and torture..

Moon square mars would deal with emotional abuse I am guessing. I agree with anongrl10
that the moon is more soft so I am thinking it can range anywhere from emotional abuse to nagging.

posted October 16, 2011 03:25 PM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
Mars/Saturn hard aspects(even 135 or 45 degrees)
Mars/Pluto aspects
Venus/PLuto for rape

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posted October 16, 2011 03:30 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
I just want to add that having these aspects means that if person is not evolved enough and has other things in the chart that reinforce this aspect that maybe the desire to rape, murder or torture maybe acted out. It means the potential is there but it may never be actualized as it would depend on rest of chart and how evolved person is I am thinking.

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Well, um, how is that person like in that chart I posted? Is he normal?

posted October 16, 2011 03:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Doreen:
Just wanted to add something instead of editing my previous post the Moon Square Mars person I know always or make that often talks about wanting to kill someone and also says I don't mind killing so and so and going to prison

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posted October 16, 2011 03:44 PM            

Saying is one thing, doing is another. I have an 8th house Mars in Aries and my adolescence was fraught with temper outbursts. I even had a friend say that my eyes looked like I could kill someone but I have never hurt anyone much less kill.

With a Moon squaring Mars, a person's emotions i.e, the Moon are expressed mainly in a Mars manner: through action, spontaneity and yes, at times, aggression. Such a person when threatened with emotional abuse can lash out so to speak but anongrl is correct in surmising that the Moon is a more "softer", a more emotional expression of Martian energy.

Karka Queen's question asking for aspects that could lead to cruelty is more inclusive than a couple of hard aspects. A few hard aspects even Mars sq Pluto zingers are not enough to compel anyone into violence etc. The whole chart of the person must be taken into consideration. The hard aspects would open up the avenue of violence and sadism but in the absence of triggers or the presence of balancing aspects in the rest of the chart, it would only make them highly motivated and eager to get ahead at the expense of others.

posted October 16, 2011 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Well, um, how is that person like in that chart I posted? Is he normal?

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Karlaqueen,

The only thing I notice on his chart personally is the venus and mars in the 2nd square moon. His self worth could be poor (2nd house) as a result of his relationship with mother (moon) which might be abusive or stressful (square) and he in turn be abusive towards others (his squared moon is in the 7th). Is he emotionally abusive to you?

Amelia

posted October 16, 2011 04:02 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Karlaqueen,

The only thing I notice on his chart personally is the venus and mars in the 2nd square moon. His self worth could be poor (2nd house) as a result of his relationship with mother (moon) which might be abusive or stressful (square) and he in turn be abusive towards others (his squared moon is in the 7th). Is he emotionally abusive to you?

Amelia

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He's no emotionally abusive to be, no. Er, though he can be possessive and too protective over me sometimes.

posted October 16, 2011 04:06 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
He's no emotionally abusive to be, no. Er, though he can be possessive and too protective over me sometimes.

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He probably doesn't PERCEIVE his mother loves him unconditionally and this affects his self worth making him insecure and possessive and overprotective of you (nagger, this confirms what anongrl10 said about moon square mars).

I am thinking when he heals his self worth by learning to love self unconditionally, his relationship with women will improve and restore balance.

posted October 16, 2011 04:21 PM            

The simple explanation to your complaint about him been possessive is that he has Venus in the second which is ruled by Taurus so he is possessive of those he loves and of his material possessions. Mars in second would indicate he works hard to get possessions. This is further reinforced with Taurus rising!!! which means he has Scorpio in the 7th! My husband has this too and he can be a bit possessive and preoccupied with accumulating wealth.