posted October 31, 2011 06:59 PM            

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Originally posted by hannarama:
If she has those personality disorders, wouldn't ALL Leo moons have them? I find any planet that touches Leo that trait is expressed dramatically just as the poster said. Aries influence only adds fuel to the fire.

My mother is an Aries though and does sometimes pick fights. I secretly think she's overloaded with aggression and needs something to take it out on thus where the s*it stirring comes in. I'm an Aries but I've been told I'm evolved... so... I hate fights, really.

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I need to clarify to all aries. Aries are awesome...and mars in aries hooooot! I even love moon in aries but the fact that this lady has THREE planets in aries perhaps makes her OVERLY competitive and stubborn and her leo moon needs to be the center of attention and make her think she is better than others. Been competitive is great!!!!! overly competitive not so great, it hurts relationships with everyone around you bc everything is a competition and with leo moon it just directs this competitive energy to been the center of attention. I think the answer lies in the combination of aries energy with leo energy and having too much fire and not other elements to balance it out. Its a combination of things and if she posts her chart up we can probably find other things that add to this combination. I like a lot of things about aries and leos. This thread is aimed at looking at the entire chart to understand this woman's behavior.

posted October 31, 2011 07:26 PM            

Just have to say, I dropped out of nursing school, too. Couldn't stand it, and it was making me sick and nuts. Clearly, I wasn't meant for it. Like you, my mother went bat-poo crazy when I told her. Yes, I also *constantly* get the whole lecture about how I'm screwing up my life, it would be great if I only listend and did every dang thing she said, etc... Yup! The best thing you can do for yourself is keep away from her and her toxic talk. I learned that one myself. Also, I tried to get my mother to go to counseling. No way!! She hit the roof. She thinks psychology is made-up garbage, and won't have a thing to do with any of it. Oh, and I tell my mother nothing, either. Just enough to keep her fooled and off my back. I so envy people who have mothers that they can just *talk* to.

Hang in there! Don't dwell on what it is she says. No matter what. If something doesn't work out, and you have to tell her, go ahead, then get away as fast as you can.

posted November 01, 2011 03:23 AM            

The sun sign alone tells a very sparse story, one needs the chart for an accurate understanding of the person.

I'm 0 degrees Aries and am a very intricate female.

I sacrificed my career and dreams for the good of my family and have no regrets.
I also have a Venus/Mercury conjunction in Pisces.

I've not had any difficulties making friends and although I will tackle a subject that I feel strongly about, I've been told many times that I am a good listener.

Linda was an Aries and was such a loving human being. Kind, gentle, but very strong...
Articulate, magical, inspiring are just a few words I would use to describe her.
She had her faults, but we love people in spite of, no, maybe because of their faults.
We learn from them, always learn from the people who are so different from ourselves.

Parents are going to be a thorn in most kids side, they represent God as a child to us. Complete authority over our life and choices until we reach adulthood and sometimes parents have an issue with letting their grown children think for themselves.

Try letting go of the built up preconceived notion that you have of an Aries female and you just may find your best friend.

posted November 01, 2011 05:43 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Your mom probably has histrionic personality disorder or narcissistic personality disorder and people with personality disorders are practically impossible to change. Check out both of these personality disorders and let me know if you think she is one of them, this is just a SPECULATION.

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Oh no. Absolutely not. I learned that through our mini session at the doctor, when I wanted to be healthy as I suffered from disordered eating due to the pressure and being unaccepted by my mother around 5 years ago, (I'm not saying she is at fault for my past disordered eating, I'm saying she played a vital role) she made it all about her. I wanted to try to attempt to talk about my feelings and etc. Just exactly like some of you have been posting "talk to her".

 The doctor tried to ask me questions, she would forcibly interject and make it all about her, "Woe is me, life is so difficult I don't know why she did that! I am not responsible, my life is so difficult too blah blah blah Doctor, do you understand what it is like to be me? and live my life? Just horrible." Every time the doctor would focus on me, she would switch it instantly onto her. She also wouldn't support me going to get help, she looked down on it and she looks down on any form of medical assistance. So I taught myself to get better. Since than ive distanced myself from her and am very secretive about my life especially my therapy.

Everyone keeps telling me the same thing, "Talk to her" "Do therapy together" My mother is mentally incapable of help. I don't know what disorder she has but she is not mentally. nor emotionally healthy. She is beyond help. Add the fact that she truly vehemently believes nothing is wrong with her. That's the amusing part. It's not her with the problem it's me, you, him, her, and everyone else but her.

posted November 01, 2011 06:29 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Honey as I soon as I read your original thread and the way you described her I knew that talking to her wouldn't fix your relationship with her that is why I didn't tell you to talk to her and think you are handling the situation well by keeping your distance. Have you consider studying psychology? I think you should!

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yes, I've been secretly studying a bit of psychology for around 3 years now, but mainly related to criminal psychology, like serial killers. They intrigue me.
I do wish things were different between me and her, but I needed to mourn the fact that I couldn't have a mother, not emotionally, or mentally, maybe physically, sometimes not even that. But I do think I will turn okay. I even had a fear of children and having them because of my upbringing. I really believed I would be a terrible mother/act like my own and neglect them. I realize that was irrational thinking and that my experiences and observations only serve to aid me. I've even denied liking children, but deep down I love kids! My relationship with this Gemini sun guy is really helping me to uncover a lot of things I have suppressed, which I think is a good thing.

posted November 01, 2011 03:39 PM            

I should say I have an aries sun but nothing in first house and I do have some pisces and pullen actually rates aries as a very low score compared to other planets in the chart. I just don't get on with aries women, they ARE overly competitive and yes you cannot base it on just the sunsign but my rule of thumb is two or more planets in aries leads to insensitiveness and selfishness. Aries men are blunt when there is more than one sign in aries and EGO fulled. Look up on twitter what some male aries celebs are saying and you will see what I mean. Now don't get me wrong Duncan James an aries from boy band blue is a hottie but that is just superficial looks, what other people do and say I admire more from other signs.

This is from several (well actually more than several it is from many) experiences in work and family life and also I have looked at charts of celebrities too.

My gran just died and born on 1st april has 4 planets in aries (including the moon in aries - a dire situation for the moon to be in as it is so selfish and blunt there)I know the birth year so the chart is correct. All this aries influence explains how she would go on expensive cruises and not give us a thing (we got a token money amount on birthdays until 16 and then nothing, she couldn't be arsed to buy a present). Needless to say not expecting anything in her will. She was a b****. When my dad died she turned round to my mother and said you are cut out the will its going to your daughter. Anyway all the money counts for nothing now as it has been spent on care homes and cruises. She just used the money as leverage in family situation. Thank goodness she lived hundreds of miles away.
So if anyone has more than one planet in Aries I am very suspicious and they really have to earn my respect. This double aries/capricorn woman acts the same way, I got her birth details out of her and did her chart. Sun combust jupiter in aries, the overblown ego and moon in detriment in capricorn severely afflicted.

The numerous other encounters with other aries just confirm my beliefs on double plus aries. Not only do I find it hard to like these women there is also a lack of respect here.

posted November 01, 2011 03:47 PM            

Aries is a hard sign for me, too. It is quincunx my ASC, which is Scorpio.

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posted November 02, 2011 06:41 AM            

When learning about our relationships with other people it is VITAL to have both charts and preferable with accurate times of birth.

Many things are going on and judging someone by a sun sign and making broad general statements about any one sign is extremely biased.

I've been studying astrology now for 20 years and there is still much for me to learn. Astrology is very complex as are most people.

This is after all a site dedicated to a person who was an Aries sun sign, do you dislike her? She had an Aries Venus and Aries sun. :-)

I'm an Aries Sun, Sag moon and Gem rising.

posted November 02, 2011 07:52 AM            

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I have a grandma like this, from my dad's side... (won't name her sun sign - but it's not Aries)
I never speak to her anymore. You could say I'm holding a grudge.

lindisfarne -

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this but you lack fire and she lacks air (based on the placements you posted)... There's no understanding.

She is too combative (too much fire)... You don't have a very strong survival instinct or defence mechanism (no fire).

The way fire people work is - they blow up - have a HUGEEEEE argument... and then cool down.

If she yells at you or acts unreasonably.... and you simply withdraw... it will not "blow over". She'll assume you are ignoring her and yell louder.

I find that when a child lacks an element that is very prominent in the parent -- this means the parent took on that role for the child.. instead of teaching the child to take on the role *themselves*. But at some point the parent starts blaming the child... for not displaying these qualities (as though they should've learned... though the parent never taught them).

I think it's very important for you to learn to defend yourself... and be feistier in general. You can learn this from alllll the fire signs.. (sag, leo - aries).
It's likely that you'll attract fire, simply because you lack it.

For instance....

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I suffered from disordered eating due to the pressure and being unaccepted by my mother around 5 years ago

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If a person rejects you or does not accept you as you are... you say FUK YOU - RIGHT BACK!!!!
You don't let them bring you down.. and end up harming yourself.

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The doctor tried to ask me questions, she would forcibly interject and make it all about her

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Perfect time to tell her - to please leave the room as you are the patient and would like to speak to your doctor in private.

posted November 02, 2011 09:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Perfect time to tell her - to please leave the room as you are the patient and would like to speak to your doctor in private.

IMO You should try to be more assertive.

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Wait I don't like the word passive. More like lax? I just get very chill and I don't know I don't say much, I usually wait and wait until im good and ready to say "screw you" it's happened before though. I used to be really ..cruel. I just become very mean... I'm someone that doesn't really want drama I like to keep the pease and if it isn't there I usually drift off into my own world ignoring the source of drama. It entirely depends on who the person is, I can be very assertive but in a lax way. I try my best to avoid conflict. And it also depends on the person, I can be very assertive and downright domineering and cold towards strangers etc. But with people like my mother she had this kind of hold on be those years. I feared and resent her, so I just avoide her even if that meant not asserting myself and whenever I would assert myself it would make her angrier, which again I didn't want - remember how I said I like to keep the peace? yeah.

I kind of associated "assertiveness" with being mean, kind of like how my mother is.. and remember how I said I dont want to be anything like her? Yup. We just have very different personalities. My water burns out her fire, my air blows it away. But with my other I don't feel that being assertive example "Mom bequiet this is not about you." Around others isn't worth it because I know my mother she is just overly feisty and in your face.. I've always built ways to detach myself from her emotionally and mentally so that's why I don't necessarily feel much towards her anymore when she gets like that. Most of my brief discussions with her have no emotion behind them for me. My voice is monotone and indifferent etc. I only become this way towards people I'm on the verge of hating?? I don't hate though it's a waste of energy more like disliking/indifferent. I mean I really couldn't care less about my mother or her well fare. It sounds contradicting (why are you on a forum talking about her) I guess I'm not that assertive with her because I know for a fact the result in it won't be beneficial. For anyone. It'll just jumpstart another fight
I'm really not curious towards. I can tell her things like "Leave me alone" "Not interested in speaking to you" but that's pretty much it or "Stay out of my business" things like that, it's always very short and curt responses.

posted November 02, 2011 09:45 AM            

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
she has mars in aries
yes I know a lot of you guys aren't like that

but so far idk the Aries women I met were very dramatic always made a big deal out of nothing. I'm the kind of person that doesn't like big scenes especially when they involve me.. and this is something they do a lot at least with me.. always make a big scene hah!!!

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posted November 02, 2011 10:09 AM            

my assertiveness is not apart of my personality
but I'm quite assertive with my work/career
as well as when I'm in partnerships, like with my boyfriend im assertive with him.

I may not be assertive in general like not in my personality but it does come out much more when it comes to my money, career and my relationships (romantic)

posted November 02, 2011 10:14 AM            

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HI
I did a thread not so long ago this year about a woman with aries capricorn that was being a problem and she still is. She has so many rough edges I just want to say develop a sense of humour cause you haven't got one! It is all about her. There is no relating it is her way or the highway so lindisfarne I have empathy for your situation.

I should say I have an aries sun but nothing in first house and I do have some pisces and pullen actually rates aries as a very low score compared to other planets in the chart. I just don't get on with aries women, they ARE overly competitive and yes you cannot base it on just the sunsign but my rule of thumb is two or more planets in aries leads to insensitiveness and selfishness. Aries men are blunt when there is more than one sign in aries and EGO fulled. Look up on twitter what some male aries celebs are saying and you will see what I mean. Now don't get me wrong Duncan James an aries from boy band blue is a hottie but that is just superficial looks, what other people do and say I admire more from other signs.

This is from several (well actually more than several it is from many) experiences in work and family life and also I have looked at charts of celebrities too.

My gran just died and born on 1st april has 4 planets in aries (including the moon in aries - a dire situation for the moon to be in as it is so selfish and blunt there)I know the birth year so the chart is correct. All this aries influence explains how she would go on expensive cruises and not give us a thing (we got a token money amount on birthdays until 16 and then nothing, she couldn't be arsed to buy a present). Needless to say not expecting anything in her will. She was a b****. When my dad died she turned round to my mother and said you are cut out the will its going to your daughter. Anyway all the money counts for nothing now as it has been spent on care homes and cruises. She just used the money as leverage in family situation. Thank goodness she lived hundreds of miles away.
So if anyone has more than one planet in Aries I am very suspicious and they really have to earn my respect. This double aries/capricorn woman acts the same way, I got her birth details out of her and did her chart. Sun combust jupiter in aries, the overblown ego and moon in detriment in capricorn severely afflicted.

The numerous other encounters with other aries just confirm my beliefs on double plus aries. Not only do I find it hard to like these women there is also a lack of respect here.

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posted November 02, 2011 07:43 PM            

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
She is out of her mind. This is how our first conversation (yelling match on her part) went today:
Mother: Brittany!
Me: Yes.
Mother: What do you mean "yes?" What is the matter with you?
Me: What? Look can you just tell me what you need i am busy,
Mother: What is wrong with you! Why every time I try to talk to you, you speak to me like I am the enemy
(i truly dont understand where shes getting this..)
Me: Ok what did you need?
Mother: (starts screaming) You do not respect me! I am trying to ask you something and you are yelling at me!
Me: I was not yelling at you.
Mother: Starts blabbing about herself and doesn't even ask what she needed to ask, wasting 5 minutes of my time.

Maybe I will just stay very far away from Women with more than 2 Aries in their personal planets...

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posted November 02, 2011 07:56 PM            

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Originally posted by DayandNight21:
Assertiveness doesn't have to be about sun aries or other aries placements you could have mars in good aspect to jupiter which is good for sticking up for yourself. Sun conjunct mars or trine/sextile mars in most signs adds to self assertion for that sign.

If there are 12 people in the room and one of them is Aries and I find them offputting I will talk to the other 11 whom i find less selfish that is my right and there is limited time to waste feeling negative about one sign when you can be feeling positive with 11 others.

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posted November 03, 2011 03:40 AM            

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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
Honestly the only person with Aries placements I've encountered who wasn't like that was my mom, but everyone else - EVERYone - including my Aries ascendant brother, and I've had encounters with other strongly Arian people as well - but they're always needlessly combative and competitive and antagonistic. I think an Aries that is more evolved can be very different, but the vast majority aren't at that point and are just bullies who feel this constant, ego-driven need to 'beat' everybody at a game that only they themselves, are playing.

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