posted November 11, 2011 08:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ Make sure you add this guy to your club.

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posted November 11, 2011 09:19 PM            

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Originally posted by hannarama:
Hahaha! Well see I'm in my 20's. I feel like that's a cop out though. Like "OH you're in your 20's... just be promiscuous and live up to your drunken stereotype 'til you can join the grown-up 30s table."

I don't feel like I ever get looked at like dryer lint, it's just simply like I'm not there. I mean I'm kinda thankful for that considering taunting that other girls go through or the things they do because they THINK it will get them love.

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Umm... I'm kind of confused by what you wrote. I mean, myself, I never did the promiscuous thing regularly. *Slightly*, like one summer when I was 19, but that was it. (That summer, I fell in with a big group of party-hearty types. Got it all out of my system in about three months.) I've never been a big party person, and I've never slept around the way I've seen others do it. "Player" I'm definitely NOT!

In my case, particularly in my teens, I would crush heavily on a guy, but say or do nothing. I wouldn't tell a soul. Just kept it all inside. (Probably typical for a lot of teens) In my 20's, if I was attracted to a guy, I would *try* to be there. I'd try to do the whole flirty thing, but they'd look at me with a blank expression, then walk away. Either that, or they had girlfriends, so I would never say or do anything.

To this day, no matter how hard I try to "put myself out there" it comes to nothing. Just a zero. Part of it is definitely my own shyness, but even those times when I *really* try hard, it seems to come to nothing.

posted November 11, 2011 09:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ Uranus in the 7th is good for online dating.

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posted November 11, 2011 10:02 PM            

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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Umm... I'm kind of confused by what you wrote. I mean, myself, I never did the promiscuous thing regularly. *Slightly*, like one summer when I was 19, but that was it. (That summer, I fell in with a big group of party-hearty types. Got it all out of my system in about three months.) I've never been a big party person, and I've never slept around the way I've seen others do it. "Player" I'm definitely NOT!

In my case, particularly in my teens, I would crush heavily on a guy, but say or do nothing. I wouldn't tell a soul. Just kept it all inside. (Probably typical for a lot of teens) In my 20's, if I was attracted to a guy, I would *try* to be there. I'd try to do the whole flirty thing, but they'd look at me with a blank expression, then walk away. Either that, or they had girlfriends, so I would never say or do anything.

To this day, no matter how hard I try to "put myself out there" it comes to nothing. Just a zero. Part of it is definitely my own shyness, but even those times when I *really* try hard, it seems to come to nothing.

Hey! I'm not giving up. I'm still trying, but sometimes I do think that the whole Venus/Saturn/Uranus/Pluto mess is out to get me. Or there's a big lesson in mixed in that gumbo I'm meant to learn from. That's all.

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posted November 11, 2011 11:17 PM            

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Originally posted by hannarama:
I'm like you too. I have a great personality UNTIL I start to like someone, and then I just freeze and do the whole "Please, me? Like YOU? Please." attitude thing 'cause I thought that's playing hard to get or being a challenge or what guys like.... and then I say and do nothing. First of all, I'm the woman and I'm old fashioned and I want HIM to chase me. My observances says this works out better. Whenever I've chased guys I ended up doing all the work. I don't know. I've had three of my closest friends tell me I have a "wall". Scorpio friend says I shut down with "iron gates", my Taurus friend said "And you don't even throw any ropes over the edge to help someone out, and the wall is FLAT! Completely flat! No one can get any traction." But I mean where do you draw the line between "need help" unavailability and someone who likes their privacy?

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Agh! Yes, I get the "wall" thing, too! What IS that?? I honestly don't know. When people tell me that I have to "put myself out there," I always say, "how? Do what? I'm RIGHT THERE." Honestly, I just don't know.

posted November 12, 2011 12:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ Ooh I can be a room killer too, hey maybe I'm part of this group (!)

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Ah! We can get a new club going! Lioness! Where are you?

posted November 12, 2011 01:33 AM            

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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Ah! We can get a new club going! Lioness! Where are you?

Just kidding. Well, any idea what causes that? Is it some kind of autism thing, and you can't pick up social cues? Really, I'm baffled, and with my level of shyness, it only takes one little incident like that to send me into a tailspin.

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Im here... I went to watch Supernatural and lay down for a bit... LOL

I started the club already.. Come on in all welcome

posted November 12, 2011 09:30 AM            

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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Agh! Yes, I get the "wall" thing, too! What IS that?? I honestly don't know. When people tell me that I have to "put myself out there," I always say, "how? Do what? I'm RIGHT THERE." Honestly, I just don't know.

Don't know where that line is. At all. I always feel SO bad when I try to talk with people, and suddenly, the conversation starts to drift off and wilt. I try to be chipper, and join in. Then all of a sudden, they look all uncomfortable, like they want to get away from me. Somehow, I've disrupted whatever it is they have going, and I need to get lost. Oh, that'll send me hiding into my room for a couple of days! Does anything like that happen to you, too?

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posted November 12, 2011 09:35 AM            

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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Ah! We can get a new club going! Lioness! Where are you?

Just kidding. Well, any idea what causes that? Is it some kind of autism thing, and you can't pick up social cues? Really, I'm baffled, and with my level of shyness, it only takes one little incident like that to send me into a tailspin.

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posted November 12, 2011 09:37 AM            

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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
venus-neptune
venus-uranus

Venus-Neptune because of the illusion aspect. Venus-Uranus because they subconsciously want to maintain their freedom, so they end up intentionally seeking out people they know they can't have.

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posted November 12, 2011 09:40 AM            

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Originally posted by hannarama:
I've always been scared to have just a sexual relationship but you know... maybe it'll work for me. I know I felt claustrophobic in my last and only relationship so far where the guy texted me all day and saw him in class, and then he'd call that night. That happened every. night.

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Uh, that's not exactly what I meant. LMAO

posted November 12, 2011 10:09 AM            

You ladies have to really start loving yourselves. I sense the self-esteem lacking. You can't get someone to love you until you at least love yourself. The low ego and self-confidence shows through, and at least in my eyes, ego and self esteem in a woman is incredibly sexy.

I've been moderately lucky in the sense that the women with whom I have had relationships with in my life have generally been way more attractive than I am, but even then, it wasn't their bodily dimensions that attracted me. It was their confidence and achievement.

For goodness sake, sexual relations should not be used as a precursor to an emotional relationship. Using sex to lure a guy into a relationship is just another sign of low self esteem.

Sex comes with love, and when in a true loving relationship, the sex that follows would be the best you have ever felt and had. You can sleep around all you want, and without love, sex is just sex and is downright boring anyway. I know because I have been down that path, having being a young terror and having slept with up to three different women in a single day before, on three separate dates, without either knowing about the other, or two simultaneously. None of that remotely measures up to being with my wife, the woman I have loved for two decades.

Hold you heads up high and maintain high standards with men. Unless men measure up, don't give them the time of the day. Don't waste your time on sleaze balls, weirdos and losers. Settling on a loser would not lead you on the path to happiness.

Keep yourselves attractive. Dress well. Maintain lady-like conduct. Measure all men against your high standards of expectations. Trust me that you'll attract the right ones. The losers and weirdos will fall away because they know they can't measure up.

In my 20s, having had mulitple relationships, I was preparing myself psychologically to lead a life of permanent bachelorhood. Relationships had been a series of consecutive disappointments. Then one day when I least expected it, I struck gold.

posted November 12, 2011 10:19 AM            

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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
Uh, that's not exactly what I meant. LMAO

In no way was I endorsing or encouraging one night stands.

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Oh jesus no. I didn't mean one night stands either. Kind of like... friends with benefits? But whatever, YoursTruly just put me in my place again.

posted November 12, 2011 10:27 AM            

You know its not about exercise. I've struggled with a bit of extra weight all my life myself. Its about loving yourself. After you do so, you will see yourself subconciously eating right, eating less, and walking more. You will start dressing in a more attractive manner and you will pay more attention to the way you conduct yourself. Finding time to exercise would come naturally as well because your priorities will align themselves naturally.

posted November 12, 2011 10:40 AM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
One of the best but hopeless questions ever asked

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posted November 12, 2011 10:52 AM            

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Originally posted by hannarama:
I wonder if it's the Neptune squares first 'cause that's kind of the unconscious... Uranus in the 7th? Well yeah I guess you're right. That adds a bit of "touch and go", Saturn being the icy cold "touch" part.

So what. I'm supposed to give up my idea of a normal relationship and go be a mistress?

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I dont think you have to give up the idea of a "normal" relationship. just to start what is a "normal" relationship?... normally when people has planets in 7th they tend to project what they are not already owning in themselves. with uranus in 7th you need lot of space in a relationship and only a person with lots of self-confidence and the same need will give you that. sometimes, you will attract the unavailable because as they are not that into you they give you the space you need, but that does not mean that someone who trully care woundnt.. just try to look at yourself and accept that you will never be happy with somebody that is not independent enough. saturn in 7th, can be read as icy, but also as relationships that demand from you to count on your own. you did not come to this life to rely on others, but on yourself. once you master that life lesson, relationships become more settle and you can enjoy the steadiness that saturn provide. how to combine saturn and uranus? which planets is stronger in your chart? that is the one that somehow define the 7th and the other add layers.

i still struggle to get all the nuances of strenght of the planets, but MORIN book about the streght of the planets is pretty useful. is the planet afflicted, is the planet in its own house, is the planet more consistent with the house ( i asumme that none saturn or uranus can be related to 7th house) which planet is nearest the cusp of the house and some other things i cant remember.

I just would say that try to look at yourself and your needs. what saturn and uranus tell about who you are and what your needs in relationshps are (the needs of your soul, not your ego conscious self)
my experience tells that once we own our influences, getting th ebest of the planets come second.

hope this helps.

posted November 12, 2011 10:54 AM            

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Originally posted by hannarama:
Guy sees girl, guy approaches girl gently (SLOWLY. At a nice pace.), gets to know her, they become friends - he confesses his passionate and undying love for her and her for him they get married and live happily ever after...

What do I get though? Unavailable guys. Gay guys. Weird guys.

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posted November 12, 2011 12:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ I think it's that I'm not as lighthearted as they want me to be. It seems like a lot of people want you to be like a character on a TV show, imitating a life like that instead of having your own, that's what I see, like you're not allowed to be a real person, you have to follow a script. I wonder if that is a U.S. problem more and more. Plus I live in California (southern).

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Oooh! I live in S. Cal, and I totally get that one! Yeah, there is something soooo superficial about some of the people out here, and if you don't look their "type" straight away, well, then they can't even be bothered to give you the time of day. That's one thing I really dislike about living here. Even though I'm a Cali native, I can't get used to it.

Just had a talk to someone about how unfriendly this area is. If you do want to just meet someone new and start a conversation, they all look at you like you're nuts. Suddenly they want to get away as fast as possible.