posted November 13, 2011 10:19 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Anyway, tell your dad that he doesn't have to sell any children. If he's also in New England, I'll pick him up for a ride in mine.

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posted November 13, 2011 10:42 PM            

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Not if he were delivering a baby or transplanting a heart !!!

Not if he were a psychiatrist trying to prevent suicide!!!

Not if he were an anesthesiologist needed to relieve post-op pain!!!

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Of course. But was he?

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But joining this site and educating myself and becoming aware I really it's his Cappy moon

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posted November 13, 2011 10:44 PM            

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Originally posted by downtomars:
Yikes, I feel for you both, my dad is similar (notice my Cap mom is the one who had to struggle) except that he had everything and we had next to nothing. He is a Virgo with Cancer rising Moon in Leo though, but he was still work obsessed and status conscious (military intelligence turned college professor). Funnily, he always recommends that I go to law school even though he didn’t help fund my education (already have a masters, working on a 2nd) and I doubt he’ll pay for the top tier law school I’d go to if I did decide to go! His Mars and NN are in Capricorn…

My mom was the one who did all of the heavy lifting though and she is a Cap/Sag/Cap with Saturn in Cap in the 1st house! I understand her a little bit more. I mean, she still isn’t that emotional type and she was always pretty stern but I have learned not to rely on her for emotional support. What is the saying? Can’t quench a thirsty heart by going to an empty well, I think? It is sad but, I have had to deal with it so I’m used to it. She is easy!

I see both sides, I am not crazy about both but I think that it helps that I understand it (I am still trying to understand my father though, that might take a while)...

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I appreciated reading your response Downtomars. It's great that you've managed to see your mother for who she is an establish some form of relationship.

posted November 13, 2011 11:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
YoursTruly - was he?

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He's in the business of medicine . He works in a hospital Have you not read the thread?

posted November 15, 2011 04:59 AM            

Lindisfrane, I don't think there will be an absolute answer for your question, since it concerns "Capricorns" as a group. Like one of the poster-NativelyJoan pointed out, we are here talking about our experiences and our opinions only.

At first I was reluctant to answer, coz I thought your question generalised too much, a bit like those Yahoo!answer questions. But then I read the replies from other posters and I thought, oh well, I'd just give my 2 cents.

Now, as a Capricorn with heavy Saturn influence (multiple planets in Capricorn, a good number of Saturn squares and conjunctions, Sun/AS in Capricorn), I do not place money and work over my loved ones. I always have my loved ones' best interests at heart.

There are people who claim that love and health are valued beyond everything else. Even though I agree with that statement to a certain degree, I can't help but think "What about money, money runs round buying gifts for love and medications for health".

I work a lot, I fuss over "mundane" things such as the bills, saving accounts and the stock market. But I don't work because I want to sleep on a pile of money. I work because I want to provide stable foundation for my future family, and also I want to be able to help my friends in difficult times.

Lol, I know I sound boring and cliche', the slogan "We work because we love you" has been used a lot. But still, there aren't many people who understand. I take my time to take care of the "boring" part of life, hoping to take the burden off my loved ones' shoulders. This is how I express love and care.

My fiance' is a sinfully gorgeous, happy-go-lucky Libra. We had a lot of problems at first but through many trials, we've come to a happy medium. Under his influence, I've become "too romantic", surprisingly I don't mind at all.

Unfortunately, he seems to be the only one who understands. My friends still think I value money and work over them. Sad, but they probably would never know how important they are to me

English isn't my mother language, therefore I do hope that my grammatical errors didn't annoy you too much

posted November 15, 2011 08:06 PM            

My father G-d rest his soul (a Taurus who would give you the shirt off his back and who helped everyone all the time) always complained bitterly about my Capricorn mother that for her, money was number one. He was under the impression that if it meant spending her money, she'd rather make her husband or daughter miserable. At times I saw her in that light, too. But then there's the side of her that'll help out in a pinch, if you're family. It'll be on her terms, always, but she'll do it. So I can't say she put money above family, but it was always a major consideration. She agreed to sponsor her brother (who lives with his family overseas) if he won the immigration lottery. Then, years later, his turn came up, he "won" the lottery, and she refused to sign the papers, citing for her primary reason her belief that he could only get a menial job in our country and she'd be forced to support him, his wife and kids. I don't think he ever got over his anger with her for pulling a stunt like that. But.... she's been sending him monetary gifts since then... little by little, as she sees fit.

My husband, when I fell in love with him, had me convinced that none of his children ever bought him anything for his birthday or for Father's Day. I fell for it, hook, line and sinker. I felt soooooooo bad for him; he aroused my compassionate side. Fast forward to 12 years later, and I'm talking to his middle daughter from his first marriage. She tells me, every time we got Daddy something for his birthday, he'd return it to the store and buy something he liked better. He did the same thing on Father's Day. We finally just stopped getting him stuff, "cuz he always had a complaint". So there's my Cappie man for ya.

posted November 15, 2011 08:45 PM            

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Once again, another stereotype.

I'm a heavy Capricorn and I have a highly successful career. My sun is in House 10. My income is in the President's targetted 1%. You know all the protests around the world... that's against people like myself. We work brutal schedules and achieve success.

My goal in life is to provide for my loved ones. Nothing's more important to me than my family. They get the very best of the best in everything, and I work super hard to afford the best for them.

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The protests are against those who have accumulated their vast wealth via greed, selfish behavior and cheap tricks and loop holes and against those who are sly like foxes (example coming).

Many of the millionaires and billionaires have their fortune via dishonest means. Don't tell me the lot of them are hard workers, they get their money because of the hard workers they employ and under pay. How is it possible that a CEO gets 100s of times more than a common worker? Please. Sure some of them are legit, I have seen them and know them. But many get their money through the hard work of the people they employ while paying very low salaries and out sourcing to 3rd world countries, using shoddy parts, finding tax loopholes, etc. etc. etc. The "99%" are correct to protest and protest hard. That 5 dollar/month fee from BoA is the perfect example of the greed that is destroying this country and the greed that runs rampant amongst the "1%".

posted November 15, 2011 10:33 PM            

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Yes, but not all of the 1% is like you. Many of the 1% are liars, cheaters, get their money through dishonest means, trickesters who would sell their old mother out for more money type of people.

The protests are against those who have accumulated their vast wealth via greed, selfish behavior and cheap tricks and loop holes and against those who are sly like foxes (example coming).

Many of the millionaires and billionaires have their fortune via dishonest means. Don't tell me the lot of them are hard workers, they get their money because of the hard workers they employ and under pay. How is it possible that a CEO gets 100s of times more than a common worker? Please. Sure some of them are legit, I have seen them and know them. But many get their money through the hard work of the people they employ while paying very low salaries and out sourcing to 3rd world countries, using shoddy parts, finding tax loopholes, etc. etc. etc. The "99%" are correct to protest and protest hard. That 5 dollar/month fee from BoA is the perfect example of the greed that is destroying this country and the greed that runs rampant amongst the "1%".

Just look at the heads of sallie mae who earn hundreds of millions of dollars while young students they lend to (aka me 20-25K in debt) struggle to find jobs to BARELY pay back the money they owe to this predatory company. Sallie Mae is like a loan shark, they harass, put down and make you feel awful for having a legit inability to pay back.

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Carl,

Let me be clear. All those who have infringed on the law should be in jail. All those who have been dishonest would have to face their own judgment one day, and I wouldn't shed a tear for them.

Sallie Mae is government driven, so that much I can't help you. Regarding the student loan business, it was a loan sharking business in the first place. The business is fundamentally twisted and established to soak students off their dreams of a great job after graduation. Except that college is a fundamentally cyclical affair, and the current pathetic economy is not conducive to new graduates finding suitable employment.

Regarding consumer banking and BoA, its fundamentally tilted against the consumer. However, its a private enterprise, and unless the government enacts specific legislation against outrageous fees, there is little we can do. Make no mistake, consumer banking fees upset me as well.

However, these are institutions. Behind these twisted business models, there are still thousands of employees who get up every morning to earn a living.

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs both created obnoxious business models that soaked the consumer, but both offerred valuable products and services, and they worked hard for their wealth. Let's not begrude them.

All I'm saying is let's not begrude those who work hard for a living. At the same time, let's lock up the felons and throw away the key.