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Lonake
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posted November 22, 2011 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I have ruler of the 7th in the 5th & am no player

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posted November 22, 2011 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is his chart:


This is the first time I looked up Ixion and Nessus for him.. Iqhunk is so right! I mean Ixion is bang on his SN!!! and square his Nessus.

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The interesting thing is, my Moon is at 19' Capricorn.. so it is exactly sextile his SN/Ixion.. and trine his NN in Taurus.. My Sun in Aries is trine his Nessus. Shouldn't this have made him a better version of himself? What in the world happened?
Or are Nessus & Ixion so dark.. that they can be negative even with positive/easy aspects like the trine and sextile?

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posted November 22, 2011 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm.... I dunno about 5th house and players...
I have a lot going on in my 5th house,ruled by Aquarius... Including Venus conjunct Juno, Eros, Jupiter, Ceres, Pholus, Mercury... and maybe more that I haven't checked yet. The ruler of both my 8th and ASC are both Venus which is in my 5th. The ruler of my 12th is also in my 5th. The ruler of my 10th is in my 7th. I also have a lot going on in my 7th house and Pluto conjunct ASC... which also seems to relate to relationships...

Relationships are the most important thing in my life.... but I'm not a player at all. I have a lot of admirers and I realize that but I do nothing to encourage them, whether I am in a relationship or not. I certainly don't sleep around.

I am one of the most faithful people I know. I am NEVER unfaithful, not even emotionally. I don't even think of other men or check them out. I am not a player at all... I am incredibly sexual, affectionate with affectionate partners, and EXTREMELY creative and competent in many areas of the arts and humanities... I adore animals... People say that I am good with children...

I'm not saying I don't have many admirers... I am just not interested in being involved with them and I love being in a good relationship with someone who makes me happy. And, I easily (though unhappily) remain single/celibate for long periods of time until I find someone who fits really well with me. I generally have long term relationships and am extremely devoted when I am in love. If things are going to end, they will end within the first 6 weeks and it is usually I who ends them.

I think there has to be a little more to this 5th house linking to 'players'. If I can think of anything similar, it might be a willingness to become intimate quickly with those who I do feel right about. These people don't come along often, maybe only one every couple of years, but when they do, we do not wait long at all for intimacy.

So what do these 'players' have in their charts that I don't have? That might be a key...

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posted November 22, 2011 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well ^ Your Sun is exalted and your Mars (the dispositor) is not too shabby. The only aspects I would count are the sextile to your Moon and the trine to Venus. The others are too far in orb. In a male chart the positive Mars/Venus and Mars/Moon shows an appreciation for all aspects of femininity and women in general. In a female chart it would show a love of (Venus) and affection towards (Moon) all things masculine. You also have Moon sextile Venus.. which is a sweet and romantic aspect.

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posted November 22, 2011 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, if you do House Rulers, ruler of the 7th, 8th,5th, 12th and/or 10th in the 5th seems to be dominant in a players chart. That would be cuz they take non player parts of life such as spirituality, soul love, soul sexuality, and what "should" be a committed relationship and put it in the house of "flingd", the 5th house.


This is my experience as a student, studying this stuff. I am not saying I am an expert lol


This is such a fascinating topic Ami Thank you for posting this!

I could see how having rulers in the 7Th, 8th, 5th, 12th and or 10th in the fifth house could predispose someone to become a player as a large part of their life could be focused on the 5th house. Also you`d have opportunities for hookups in many domains or spheres of your life.

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posted November 22, 2011 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear appleberry: just to take a stab at it, I would say you`re not a player despite having many planets in the fifth house because of the aspects in your natal. With juno conjunct venus and juno conjunct ceres, long-term relationships are very highly valued. You`re unlikely to screw up a relationship by cheating.

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posted November 22, 2011 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ I have ruler of the 7th in the 5th & am no player


Do you have other player aspects, Lonake lol

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posted November 22, 2011 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake----what does your Jupiter have==aspect wise. One's Jupiter must be messed up to be a player, imo.

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posted November 22, 2011 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Cecile:
This is such a fascinating topic Ami Thank you for posting this!

I could see how having rulers in the 7Th, 8th, 5th, 12th and or 10th in the fifth house could predispose someone to become a player as a large part of their life could be focused on the 5th house. Also you`d have opportunities for hookups in many domains or spheres of your life.


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posted November 22, 2011 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Lonake----what does your Jupiter have==aspect wise.


Hardly anything, trine Sun, sq Merc. It's not strong in the chart.

I agree that Jupiter likes to spread the love around I think also Mars/Venus hard aspect Jupiter could be a factor for this, esp if they were in Fire or strongly placed. Fire is impetuous, does not do planning v.well.

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posted November 23, 2011 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Betty,
I think I have mastered the charts of psychos and serial killers, and that has helped in the understanding of the "lesser evil": sociopaths.

My research indicates that men who have an afflicted Pisces Moon have mild mental disorders due to constantly being misunderstood. They suffer a lot too, and this cycle of negativity ultimately expresses as sociopathy.

In the chart you provided, Ixion is afflicted, yes, but notice the exact quincunx of Nessus to Moon.

The retrograde Venus, Pluto opp Mars and Anaretic Sun along with retrograde Saturn in Scorpio are seeds of serious sexual perversion, on top of sociopathy. Meaning, he will not be bothered about the pain caused in the more painful kinds of intercourse. He will detach easily from the guilt of trauma.

When Ixion and South Node are in Serpentis [19 Scorpio], the past lifelines may have involved many murders/crimes of lust, depending on the placement of his Ascendant [because Ixion is a slow mover].

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The interesting thing is, my Moon is at 19' Capricorn.. so it is exactly sextile his SN/Ixion.. and trine his NN in Taurus.. My Sun in Aries is trine his Nessus. Shouldn't this have made him a better version of himself? What in the world happened?
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His past life baggage was too much for you to help in correction. He might improve after his Saturn Return though.

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posted November 26, 2011 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What else does she have? Just that ONE Jupiter square? No other hard aspects to Jupiter? Btw Hi Nordic


Bella Ami,

Actually i think is not afflicted as there are also positive aspects. here her planets

planet sign degree motion
Sun Libra 0°49'02 in house 7 direct
Moon Scorpio 6°37'17 in house 8 direct
Mercury Libra 18°39'17 in house 8 direct
Venus Libra 25°53'47 in house 8 direct
Mars Cancer 1°22'44 in house 4 direct
Jupiter Sagittarius 25°32'53 in house 10 direct
Saturn Capricorn 11°52'19 in house 11 stationary (D)
Uranus Leo 23°48'50 in house 6 direct
Neptune Scorpio 7°30'50 end of house 8 direct
Pluto Virgo 6°43'58 in house 7 direct
True Node Virgo 15°27'59 in house 7 retrograde

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posted November 26, 2011 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Scrappy, good point.
Since I am "conspiracy minded", I would allege that the privileged classes fund the psychiatry syllabus to force the drivel that only kids from underprivileged classes who suffer abuse or torture will become psychopaths. Fact is most such kids try to become protectors.
A billionaire who organizes wars to arrange for more weapons sales is far more cold, psychotic and wicked than a spontaneous assaulter [one who may actually have misplaced neurons.]
The Mafia bosses in the triads kill or torture for sheer fun. Cults indirectly connected to Black Masonic Lodges routinely torture young girls from their own families. I have evidence. It is a ritual collection of Energy as far as they are concerned.

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One dangerous aspect is Jupiter opposed Nessus exact.
There is far more "hard luck" in this chart than any serious sociopathy because Chart Ruler Moon is afflicted by Saturn in 5th. Aloofness/detachment is also high with Aquarius dominance. Mild sadistic tendency and chances of emotional insecurity are found when we have Cancer Rising and excess Aquarius with Sun in 7th. Sun in 7th is traditionally a weak placement.

Had Dejanira been in 25 Capricorn, I would have said 75% chances of this chart being that of a sadistic sociopath. But as it is, less than 40% chance, unless provoked by very harsh Saturn Transits. There are sufficient good aspects [Neptune trine North Node, Mars in 5th, Urnaus sextile Venus ] to overcome evil.

Interestingly, the psychopathic and sadistic rape-murder of ex-beauty queen Anita Cobby in Australia occurred around this time [It occurred on Feb 2, 1986. Dejanira was closer to quincunx Nessus, but also had the vile trigger of Moon in "accursed degree" 19 Scorpio conjunct Ixion in 20 Scorpio.].


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posted November 26, 2011 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Well, as an SAT question would say---All players have 5th house planets but not all people with planets in the 5th houses are players


htat is true. i have jupiter conjunct 5th from 4th house, and uranus and pluto (in virgo) in 5th. and I have never been involved in playing, not the lotery. but my jupiter is not afflicted and trine saturn

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posted November 26, 2011 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune in Scorpio in the 5th House plus Ceres in 5th House. That's my wife. What does that mean?

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posted November 27, 2011 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've noticed in with a couple of Venus Retrograde men.

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posted November 27, 2011 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ I have ruler of the 7th in the 5th & am no player


That is just one thing, Baby lol

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