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Topic: Rishi Parashara's insights from 5000 years ago
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moonpie
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posted November 24, 2011 06:31 AM
  
Pretty fatalistic for my liking though I don't enjoy the vague western interpretations . The part where it says Sun, Mars or Saturn in 12th house- the native will go to hell..ouch!! But my deep dark secret is that I believe Vedic maybe the right one.The part where it says the native will marry at age 5 or 9. Yeeah.... IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 24, 2011 06:33 AM
I don`t think Jesus is a really good example for veryfying the one or the other, given the debate about his birthdate.IP: Logged |
moonpie
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posted November 24, 2011 06:35 AM
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wavelink
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posted November 24, 2011 06:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by moonpie:
Pretty fatalistic for my liking though I don't enjoy the vague western interpretations . The part where it says Sun, Mars or Saturn in 12th house- the native will go to hell..ouch!!
For my too 
We are speaking about Sidereal zodiac, not Vedic tradition. Imo they are fallen behind coz of not using newly planets. N generally very stalled almost obsolete ancient thought. IP: Logged |
wavelink
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posted November 24, 2011 07:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I don`t think Jesus is a really good example for veryfying the one or the other, given the debate about his birthdate.
This is not derived from his DOB. I've already written above. Hardly anyone shud doubt Jes-Neptune-Pisces connection imo IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 24, 2011 07:05 AM
*shrugs*Maybe. But I donīt like basing astrological argumentation on the assumption of data or "assumed connections". IP: Logged |
wavelink
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posted November 24, 2011 07:12 AM
Heh,U mean like all the astrology itself? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 24, 2011 07:14 AM
No,
that is why I wrote "data".Of course astrological interpretations are based on assumptions (and observation of correllations between movement and position of the stars/ planets and events/ behaviour on earth); but the used data should be as correct as possible. IP: Logged |
wavelink
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posted November 24, 2011 07:17 AM
Well,than u have all the same quality of data supporting the above mentioned connection. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 24, 2011 07:19 AM
What data?IP: Logged |
wavelink
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posted November 24, 2011 07:23 AM
Think again about the meaning of my words,
(like u restructured urs)Also look above what've written. If u can't come up with the answer I'll indulge u. But let not clutter this thread more. IP: Logged |
wavelink
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posted November 24, 2011 07:27 AM
I mean iQ (prolly everyone else) is convinced about Pisc-Jes thing.That's why he entered into the discussion with arguments.
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Ceridwen
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posted November 24, 2011 07:30 AM
I said what I wanted to say.
I simply find this way of argumentation (using people whose birthdata is not confirmed) very unconvincing. C ` est tout.(And this is directed at everyone, using this argument, not just you of course) IP: Logged |
wavelink
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posted November 24, 2011 07:32 AM
Like the dog licked his a** n said everyone has it's taste lolIf u can't see my point it's up to u. Cya
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Ceridwen
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posted November 24, 2011 08:58 AM
Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.Vale IP: Logged |
wavelink
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posted November 24, 2011 09:10 AM
Hoho,
still had something more to say on the topic Do I need to take this like the standard: "Wish u a good day" after spicy exchange ?! No more than a curse in disguise ><
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Ceridwen
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posted November 24, 2011 09:19 AM
no disguise, just LatinBut to make it clearer to you: I donīt like any kind of vulgarity, as you used in your previous post and I am asking you to refrain from it, when conversing with me.
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wavelink
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posted November 24, 2011 09:25 AM
lol even missing the point are we /latin?? - google helped me for 2 sec
Can't u spot that in "Wish u a good day" also there is no obvious disguise?!!
Hello! the connection!
U can have ur preferences, but leave them behind when approach me for conversation. Not that someone forced u here. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 24, 2011 09:50 AM
I didn`t approach you for conversation.
I was voicing my opinion, without addressing anyone in particular.IP: Logged |
wavelink
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posted November 24, 2011 09:57 AM
Still missing the subtle point, heh
N concerning voicing opinions,
see there is an unspoken rule in rhetorics:
When there is a heated debate between two it's left to be solved.
No direct interferences from third parties It wasn't the mass discussion that was started if u hadn't noticed. Also who were u *hiddenly* addressing actually having in mind I was basing my thesis on Jes-Psc?! And with these *shrugs*, etc. u got what was coming ur way. Nothing personal.
Cheers! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 24, 2011 11:57 AM
Well, if you wanted to keep that private, maybe you shouldnīt have started discussing on a public forum.
I wasn`t hiddenly addressing you specifically; what I observed here is something that seems to happens generally on this forum a lot. Basing a thesis on assumptions, using data, that is on pretty "shaky ground".
I just saw it again in this thread, and so I commented on it. I didn`t want to belittle anyone, neither you nor IQ or anyone else on this thread, by my *shrugging*; I guess it was a little defensive gesture on my part cause I could easily anticipate how this would be going, and sadly it did. Another thing I noticed - and admittedly maybe this is the wrong thread to mention it, but I am doing it nevertheless- is the habit of many people here and out there as well, to insist that someone does "not get the point", when in fact there is just a disagreement. And in this case it is just it`s not even a disagreement related to the validity of tropical vs. sidereal (from my point of view at least); I just said that I do not find it a valid or solid ground for argumentation to pick an example to which we do not know the birthdata. Maybe it is not YOUR point, but it is MINE.
Why not pick a different person with known birthdata and analyse their personality, using tropical and sidereal?
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Ceridwen
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posted November 24, 2011 12:08 PM
IQ,I can see both zodiacs resonate with me.
In my case the sidereal gives nearly the same positions as my secondary chart (5 degrees difference I think).
Do you think this is of significance?
I also must say, that even more than with the sidereal positions, I can identify with the fixed stars certain planets are on. Sometimes I wonder if we underestimate the meaning of fixed stars and overemphasizing the sign-background.
I am just wondering, not having arrived at a final conclusion yet.  IP: Logged |
wavelink
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posted November 24, 2011 12:08 PM
lolSee now drops the perfect confirmation - u really don't get the point! Who speaks about "private"?! I'm sure many enjoy the exchange of astro ideas like we enjoy sharing them.
This is the forum about that after all. Can u not comprehend the point of the rehorics rule?
Why is it like that?
No privacy issues at all. All other thoughts in this post are rubbish I'm sorry. Just an ego searching an outlet lol IP: Logged |
wavelink
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posted November 24, 2011 12:10 PM
Why not pick a different person with known birthdata and analyse their personality, using tropical and sidereal?Well,
I said I can pick whoever I want. Read again the above may be u'll guess it lol IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 24, 2011 12:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by wavelink:
All other thoughts in this post are rubbish I'm sorry.
Wow, you must really feel threatened by me for getting so offensive and rude. 
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