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Topic: Have you been cheated on?
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NativelyJoan
Knowflake Posts: 1099
From: New England
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted November 27, 2011 09:03 PM
  
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
OK. I'm not going to get into a pi$$ing showdown with you ladies, but I'll just state my position and then keep quiet. Pi$$ing showdowns are pointless and fruitless.I don't know what vows, if any, you ladies took when you got married, if so. I take my vows extremely seriously, and they include: ".....to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish; from this day forward until death do us part. " I phrase my comments in that context. I abide by my vows. You ladies can go justify your actions all you want. I'm not here to pass judgment because I inherently fall short in many other ways and will be judged myself one day. That's all I have to say. Cheers.
Yours, I hear what you're saying but I think we all have different ideas of what substantiates a relationship. Including different philosophies surrounding marriage and managing relationships. We have different beliefs, morals, values and they apply to how we live our lives. We can't live our lives afraid of being be judged. Maybe we change and grow and make decisions we'd like to go back on but we're human. We don't have all the answers and we make mistakes and we learn. I'm not encouraging cheating I just think it's circumstantial and how we feel about it is relative to our own beliefs and values. In general I have mixed feelings about cheating. Relationships are gray, misty gray. There is no right or wrong because each experience is circumstantial. IP: Logged |
scrappydog
Knowflake Posts: 1054
From: Texas
Registered: May 2009
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posted November 27, 2011 11:57 PM
I too have both parents with sun/moon to uranus aspects, this does not necesarily mean cheating, I agree. but in a chart with other aspects that lead to it, this encourages it. I should have stated that one of these asects/sign placements alone will not make a cheat. Its usually a combination.IP: Logged |
scrappydog
Knowflake Posts: 1054
From: Texas
Registered: May 2009
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posted November 28, 2011 12:04 AM
I know many people with venus conj mars that are not emotionally intense, they are quite the opposite, they like to play the field and have a hard time forming strong emotional attatchment to others. I have the square (wide) and im not like this, the cappy sun with this I know is not either, but I know 3 sag suns and 2 gem suns with the conj and they are the opposite. Im not sure if this is venus-mars conj or a strong gem/sag influence tho.
Btw, the sag suns I know will tell the truth to what suits them, people are easily led, especially weak minded ones. But if they are caught with their foot in their mouth they will lie in a seconds notice.IP: Logged |
scrappydog
Knowflake Posts: 1054
From: Texas
Registered: May 2009
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posted November 28, 2011 12:07 AM
I dont care what anyone says, after doing charts for 15 years, I just will not trust anyone with Gemini on the sun/moon/asc....sorry.IP: Logged |
lindisfarne
Knowflake Posts: 1108
From: she doesn't know that i left my urge in the icebox
Registered: Oct 2011
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posted November 28, 2011 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by scrappydog:
I dont care what anyone says, after doing charts for 15 years, I just will not trust anyone with Gemini on the sun/moon/asc....sorry.
why not the sun?
aren't other placements much more telling then sun alone? what if someone had an air sun in Gemini and the rest of their chart was earth and water? IP: Logged |
scrappydog
Knowflake Posts: 1054
From: Texas
Registered: May 2009
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posted November 28, 2011 12:13 AM
Amelia, as a venus square neptune and mars parallel neptune, I completely agree with you. We can be the most loving and faithful people on earth, the type that thinks "true love never dies". We will do anything and follow a person anywhere. Many times we attract people who victimizes us in some way and sometimes we do not even see it until much later...its very strange. Neptune can always turn around on you, even when you are pure of heart yourself, you just have to keep on moving on.IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
Knowflake Posts: 2393
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Registered: Nov 2009
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posted November 28, 2011 12:13 AM
Sun in gemini can be loyal, if they have fixed signs in their chart, or are really heavy in earth or sth stable. I've seen gemini suns with venus in taurus be loyal.It's usually more gem rising, moon, venus, mercury and mars that can't be trusted lol. Moon cos their emotions won't be consistent.
Venus cos they'll always have a roving eye
Mars cos they'll always want new stimuli to fulfill themselves
Mercury cos they lie so much it's sickening Sun can be tolerated lol if they have a stable moon sign and a stable venus. IP: Logged |
scrappydog
Knowflake Posts: 1054
From: Texas
Registered: May 2009
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posted November 28, 2011 12:25 AM
I think gem suns can be trusted at times but they have to have another influence strong, like EARTH. As a rule I find it worst on the sun and moon, asc is 3rd worst and thats only in relationships. Gem asc can make people uncomfortable tho becaus they can be frank and outspoken in a rude way. Sag can be rude too, but its not usually intentional(foot in mouth syndrome). In most of my very old books they specifically name gems in cheating and cruelty and I agree with from the ones I have known personally.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
Knowflake Posts: 2608
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Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 28, 2011 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by scrappydog:
I dont care what anyone says, after doing charts for 15 years, I just will not trust anyone with Gemini on the sun/moon/asc....sorry.
Ahem *coughs* I have Gemini ASC, and I would never cheat. Granted, I'm an Aries, Venus Aries, and Taurus moon. Now my reasons for not cheating might be a bit selfish, but to each their own. IP: Logged |
amelia28
Knowflake Posts: 2423
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Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 28, 2011 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
Well Amelia thats really sad. Is he abusive towards you?I'm sorry that you're in this situation. I don't mean to pry but do you sincerely love this man? Or did you/were you forced to love him in anyway? Just curious. The fact that he would rather you cheat then leave is unhealthy. You mentioned he has abandonment issues. It's better than hearing "If you ever cheat on me i will kill you"... Omg I feel so bad for your situation. Do you love him? But you've never actually cheated on him?
My husband is a good guy with a lot of good things but has temper issues that I am hoping will get better as he ages but if they don't I will probably leave him eventually but since he is the type to be faithful and does love me I am sticking around to help him get better with his temper. Last time I tried breaking up with him he held me physically and I kept pushing to be freed and he wouldn't let me go and his stronger than me so I couldn't get away. Yes I have cheated on him but was faithful for 4 years and then got tired of his temper and our differences sexually and am getting my needs met in that department occasionally with a friend who has bipolar and very much need a friend too. I suggested probably 15 times before I cheated on him that we have an open relationship and he declined. I persisted asking him for one to make it clear that I really wanted one. I also tried breaking up a bunch of times but like I said he doesn't let me leave when I try breaking up but he does let me travel and stuff so I could leave him if I really wanted to but I don’t have the heart as I am very loyal, love him and do enjoy the good times we have. When he is not in a bad temper he is sweet and charming but when in a bad mood very controlling and breaks things including walls, TVs and computers.
He is not black and white, he is compassionate and cries in movies and is loyal, faithful and a real good friend. He is a complex being and so am I and life is complex. We have problems but our relationship also leads to a lot growth and I have faith he will get better and I want to be there for him and help him get better. But seriously I am getting tired of justifying myself to anyone on this board for cheating. I have to stop wasting my time trying to get people to see the bigger picture and focus on helping people who already see the bigger picture increase their vibrational levels so they can transcend to a higher dimension and not stay on earth which is three dimensional. Fear is what keeps people in this low vibrational level and fear of been cheated on is something that I have confronted and no longer fear. Anything you fear will keep your vibrational level low and will make you susceptible to psychic attacks and been exploited and used and religion is the opium of the masses that keeps people living in fear and easy to manipulate and exploit. Unconditional love which is detached love that doesn't expect anything in return is how you get rid of karma and how you eliminate fear. And that is it I am no longer going have debates about cheating.
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amowls**
Knowflake Posts: 1914
From:
Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 28, 2011 01:37 PM
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With that train of thought you will have no right to get upset if and when someone cheats on you because according to your logic "he deserved to be cheated on" well the man you decide to love one day will say "she deserved to be cheated on."
Precisely. When I was having an affair, my friends asked me how I'd feel if he did the same thing. I replied, "relief." It's easier said than done to tell someone to walk away from a codependent, emotionally abusive relationship. And, like I said, I finally told him to f*ck off after a year of dating (I should've told him a week into the relationship). It's not like I married the dude. I don't really blame him for me cheating, but I do blame him for me not feeling any guilt about it. IP: Logged |
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