posted December 06, 2011 12:49 AM            

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Originally posted by MyVirgoMask:
Probably depends on the person. It depends on how in deep a person is. The last time someone had his sun in my 12th and all kinds of other sticky things (His Venus and Mars too, and his Neptune was sq my sun, to reinforce the theme) , we got together and he proposed, I had an inkling it was wrong the whole time, but I deliberately ignored it because I thought I was being paranoid. I figured my Venus Scorpio was being annoying ... but deep inside in all truth, I did not trust him, and he kept giving me a hard time about it so I felt guilty. Still had a good reason to feel suspicion though.

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posted December 06, 2011 02:44 AM              

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I had nearly the same exact experience with my ex-boyfriend! I swear he just gave me a random time and not his real time of birth, 'cause I read stuff and it doesn't match with what's in our houses but it's pretty spot on, such as your example.

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posted December 06, 2011 02:49 AM            

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Originally posted by *Prince~Darien*:
.......... uh, ok....... seriously? and then what??????????? who stops their post just there and then moves on? i mean, really!?

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posted April 07, 2012 10:38 AM            

...wow.

Well...that says it all, I guess. Not all, of course. But a lot, I guess. Sigh.

posted April 08, 2012 09:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
And what exactly does it say, FireWire?

Care to elaborate?

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Sure! My most intense relationships (and I've posted this before) always have 12th house interactions/placements. This was the first time I realized I have planets falling in someone's houses, much less so many of them.

It made we wonder how my friend feels with all of those planets there. I know this person is 'very' sensitive to my emotions and how I feel. So, they will go out of their way to make me comfortable and know that I am happy--and I will do exactly the same for them.

When someone has planets falling in my 12th, I feel I see straight through them. When I have planets falling in someone's 12th, I wonder if they see through me. In this case, I believe it is true. We know each other very, very well and express and experience a lot of affection for one another. Most of the things we 'know' and 'get'--we've never even talked about. But there is just a confidence and certainty there, like a "I'll be here, whenever I can" feeling, even when we haven't talked in ages.

But these relationships, they are typically stretched or strained. This one is no exception. Separations, distance...etc. We can't be around each other as much as we like. And when we get the chance too, it is almost bittersweet because we know it is temporary, almost able to see it in the eyes. In my experience, it takes the 'planet person' a bit of time to get into feeling comfortable with the relationship, intensity, vulnerability. But it is challenging. One is left feeling or wondering "where does this come from, can I grasp it with my hands" perhaps longing to protect or save it from the danger of life itself. The ebb and flow, things change so quickly.

There is a feeling of "will I see you again, or could this be the last time." They say, this synastry placement might indicate past life involvement, and I am left wondering if that feeling of incomplete, or uncertainty carries over. Things seem very much out of control, or predestined. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. It is hard to explain.

It takes a certain type of people to be able to handle, nurture and grow such relationships. They all have an unusual character to them, and spirituality or 'otherness' ALWAYS comes up, for me. Always that feeling of "you know me so well" there. But, unless ego issues (and control issues) are addressed, that can be a dangerous placement. Experiencing and expressing spirituality/otherness in ways that are connected to the planets that fall there. There are a lot of challenges, but such relationships are unbelievably beautiful and precious to me.

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Originally posted by scrappydog:
And for no good reason at all I feel a persitant distrust of him. He doesnt do anything, but I will make accusations. Though as a sun plutonian I am very distrustful by nature.

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posted April 08, 2012 09:32 AM            

I think you get the energies of the 12th house very well.

@ scrappydog, I hope your feelings of distrust are not justified.

posted April 08, 2012 10:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Thank you for your great reply, FireWire.

I think you get the energies of the 12th house very well.

@ scrappydog, I hope your feelings of distrust are not justified.

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Thanks Doux Rêve! :-)

I think part of it came from the general energies associated with my life path and my 12th house--it is vacant, except for my POF in Virgo there. SaggiMC posted about how she felt the POF in 12th is overlooked and not discussed enough. I see *tons* of posts about planets in the 12th, and realized that from my research, the 12th POF is REALLY important [for my life] and I should really delve into it. Low and behold, it was a goldmine of information and revelation(s).

posted April 08, 2012 10:27 AM            

That's really awesome that you got so interested in the 12th! I think it's a very elusive house but oh so intriguing.

posted April 08, 2012 10:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Leonine8:
It wasn't negative, but I had to stop myself from endlessly asking them questions, and they were pretty comfortable revealing themself emotionally, maybe morevthan I wanted to know. Kind of a tell me/ask me all your secrets thing.

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posted April 13, 2012 09:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
You're welcome.

That's really awesome that you got so interested in the 12th! I think it's a very elusive house but oh so intriguing.

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And I just realized my mom's moon falls in my 12th. :-(

posted April 13, 2012 09:38 PM            

"...It also indicates a secret soul-satisfying or clandestine but honorable relationship with someone which will bring benefit to both *and it not infrequently happens that this friend is in the spirit world*, but the relations is much more close in such cases than it can ever be between friends who are both in the physical body..."

So it appears Neptune can sometimes make you have an attraction to someone either highly spiritual, or someone who has moved on to another world in spirit. :') This person was also a very intuitive artist, and I see myself as the same way. Their Neptune also conjuncts my Pluto in the 12th, which could mean that perhaps they could understand my psychic ills. (This person has natal Pluto in the 12th house too.)

posted July 18, 2013 10:45 PM            

I can totally relate. I have a thing going on with someone who has there Sun (near the 1st house cusp), Lilith, Juno, Mercury, and Neptune in my 12th house.