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appleberry
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posted December 05, 2011 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are your experiences?

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posted December 05, 2011 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have relatives who have placements in my 12th. Doesn't really work out well.

I've read though that in romantic relationships, it's not a good sign either. The 12th is secrets as well as prisons, institutions, and self-undoing.

Take from that what you want.

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posted December 05, 2011 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leonine8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 05, 2011 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leonine8:
It wasn't negative, but I had to stop myself from endlessly asking them questions, and they were pretty comfortable revealing themself emotionally, maybe morevthan I wanted to know. Kind of a tell me/ask me all your secrets thing.

Now that I think about it, one of my exes has his ascendant in my twelfth house. He did seem to 'get' me on a fundamental level, way better than any other guy I'd gotten mixed up with before then. But it wasn't that I told him stuff - it's just that he just read and understood me better.

He would just know how I felt and things without asking and without me having to tell him. Which in a way was kind of comforting. Then again in synastry we had moon conjunct neptune in his 12th (his moon, my neptune), so maybe that explains it.

But at the same time, there was a very verbally abusive element to it - he was very cruel to me in terms of the things he'd say and how he'd act. Which is pretty similar to my experiences with my family members who have planets that fall in my 12th house.

It's cool that you had a positive 12th house synastry experience, but from what happened in my own life more than once, I think that what the astrology texts have to say about it usually being a bad thing, is true and that most people should really avoid getting involved with anyone whose planets or angles fall in their 12th house, if they can help it. Your example is pretty much the *only* time I've ever seen it actually work out positively.

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posted December 05, 2011 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I generally get the creeps from someone whose sun is on my moon in the 12th (I never trusted them, there was always a problem), but not other planets so much. My Mars is in my fiance's 12th and he has his own Mars in there already, so our Mars conjunction is in his 12th and it's sometimes hidden on our part in the way we argue and fight (I find him passive aggressive - we both have Aries moons also conj but I'm the more direct/blunt one)

Meh, nothing is perfect. It's been 3 years and we trust each other immensely and in all honesty we are very, very close...

I do think I/you have to look at the whole picture before determining a 'verdict'. A single planet in there will not doom or save anything. It will , though, make it hard to decipher the energy. 12th house is a house where it is hard to see things because they are nebulous ....it's also highly unpredictable because you never know how it will turn out since there's all this nebulous activity. It may make trust a little bit of an issue since there's a kind of paranoia involved with excessive 12th house activity. Things are hidden and put away and it's up to the people involved to decide how to handle that energy.

If you both have some 12th house energy or some Neptune energy to begin with, it might not be as bad since you are used to the nebulous activity. And you do have to look at the whole picture, again - just what does that 12th house ruler do? How is it aspected in your own chart and in theirs? it makes a difference.

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posted December 05, 2011 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 05, 2011 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for psytaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex had sun and moon on my 12th house. I had total faith in him (which turned out to be a mistake), I mean I thought we were going to be together "forever and ever" and all that. I didn't see the ending coming, him breaking up with me because nothing in his demeanor had changed. He talked the same, he looked at me the same so I didn't know. Later I asked myself how much of it was real, but that didn't get me anywhere.
The thing is, I don't really think that I've ever saw him for who he really was. I mean, I saw the bits and pieces that I was allowed to , but never the whole picture.
Right now my Neptune is sitting on my bf's 12th house, but I hope this isn't going to end with him wondering if he actually knew me at all.

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posted December 05, 2011 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for defeat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how long does it take to feel the effects (either as a house or planet person)

i've read up on 12th house synastry and for the most part what i've come across is
the planet person knows what's happening wiht the house person, and i guess as a result has trouble trusting them

what about the house person though.
are they just awe struck?

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posted December 05, 2011 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably depends on the person. It depends on how in deep a person is. The last time someone had his sun in my 12th and all kinds of other sticky things (His Venus and Mars too, and his Neptune was sq my sun, to reinforce the theme) , we got together and he proposed, I had an inkling it was wrong the whole time, but I deliberately ignored it because I thought I was being paranoid. I figured my Venus Scorpio was being annoying ... but deep inside in all truth, I did not trust him, and he kept giving me a hard time about it so I felt guilty. Still had a good reason to feel suspicion though.

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posted December 05, 2011 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ado agree btw about the planet person - I think they are more 'awake' than the 12th house person, which kind of makes sense in this case since 12th house is so much between asleep and awake . They're often not conscious of what they put out. I think Neptunian influence can make people put their partners on a sort of pedestal - I do it too , with my Neptune in the 7th. We care and adore our partners and only want to think the best of them.

But in some ways I am happy for some degree of paranoia because it's like it keeps me from trusting too much at times in the beginning especially. Really though it's not always someone's fault...can't say it's always 12th house influence that makes someone get cheated on, it's not their fault. I think it's terrible to have that happen when you are in a relationship which is stable and you think everything is alright. It makes you doubt your senses and feels like an unconscious betrayal. That sucks!

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posted December 05, 2011 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 05, 2011 04:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for psytaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MyVirgoMask:
I ado agree btw about the planet person - I think they are more 'awake' than the 12th house person, which kind of makes sense in this case since 12th house is so much between asleep and awake . They're often not conscious of what they put out. I think Neptunian influence can make people put their partners on a sort of pedestal - I do it too , with my Neptune in the 7th. We care and adore our partners and only want to think the best of them.

But in some ways I am happy for some degree of paranoia because it's like it keeps me from trusting too much at times in the beginning especially. Really though it's not always someone's fault...can't say it's always 12th house influence that makes someone get cheated on, it's not their fault. I think it's terrible to have that happen when you are in a relationship which is stable and you think everything is alright. It makes you doubt your senses and feels like an unconscious betrayal. That sucks!



Exactly!!
As for the awe part I really don't know what to say.
Back then, one of my friends tried to warn me to be a little more cautious . But deep down, I honestly felt that she was wrong, that she couldn't see the connection that we had and couldn't understand us. Yeah, I was an obnoxious moron.
I didn't keep any contact with him though he wanted us to remain friends.
We also had some aspects with Neptune:
My Neptune square his Mars and Moon
His Neptune square my Asc ( I have this natally as well).

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posted December 05, 2011 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I like H12 synastry... (but my h12 ruler is in h7) At first its very confusing, and you do have to sit and figure our self out..

Not everyone can or will do this. As yes its very difficult.

With H12 synastry there has been some secrets.. From one person to another, OR secrets they share together..
I guess how the planets in H12 are aspect ed make the difference..

The thing I notice the most and the spiritual connection is when both of these two are together.. They are in their own little private world.. That no other person can understand or get.Only those two are allowed in and understand their world..
You know its not reality.. but this other world just feels so right..
You know you live in reality, but you cant wait to go to the other world with this person... Its a whole new level of deepness..

My suggestion is not to run from H12 synastry ... IT may be hard, but its very deep and spiritual.
You will never be the same afterwards.

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posted December 05, 2011 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this with someone who has moon,north node and pluto in my 12th. There was no need for words. They asked me more questions I did them. But it felt like thier was nothing really to be asked, like we already knew wach other.

The thing I notice the most and the spiritual connection is when both of these two are together.. They are in their own little private world.. That no other person and understand or get.Only those two are allowed in and understand their world..
You know its not reality.. but this other world just feels so right..
You know you life in reality, but you cant wait to go to the other world with this person... Its a whole new level of deepness..

My suggestion is not to run from H12 synastry ... IT may be hard, but its very deep and spiritual.
You will never be the same afterwards


Lioness you pretty much said it.

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posted December 05, 2011 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireWire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Lioness.

And I'd also like to add, I feel sometimes these houses have less to do with the houses themselves and more to do with a person's individual relationship styles.

If you want and, or expect certain partnership styles from relationships, then obviously you aren't going to want "this placement or that placement" in certain houses.

Don't get mad or nervous about the house. Rather, know what makes you feel comfortable in love, relationship...etc. This may or may not be something that can be unveiled astrologically, for you. But just know what you need and want, and you may find none of this matters.

And just generally speaking, I feel a lot of people are missing out on wonderful opportunities for spiritual growth, love and expansion because of fear of aspects...etc. Or because this person's planet doesn't fall there, or aspect this. But, as you like--if it makes you happy!

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posted December 05, 2011 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CAY_512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know someone that has a Mars that falls in my 12th house. There is no reason I shouldn't trust them. They are kind and caring but I have this gut feeling that I shouldn't trust them and I try to not be alone with this person. Its like I think they are trustworthy from their personality and actions but in my gut I don't trust them. After knowing this person for over ten years I still don't know if I should trust my mind or my gut.

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posted December 05, 2011 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Venus/ASC/Pluto is in my boyfriend's 12th house.

He also has his Sun/Saturn/Pluto natally in the 12th house.

We are both private people, but he is more private and less expressive of his feelings due to that placement.

Many people don't know what kind of relationship we have behind closed doors. Some do know we are a couple but has no idea / can't imagine how we'd interact as a couple. But, once we are together, we are in our own world...very true what Lioness said.

We are deeply attached to each other almost a subconscious thing, but on the surface, nobody would even be able to detect that. I like to keep certain things in my life private and vague to others, but usually others think our relationship is not lasting or that we are not good together.

**Might I add, our relationship is partially secretive because we met at work..so..there's the situation.

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Wow, looking back, almost all of my ex's have either had their Venus my 12th, or my Venus has landed in their 12th.

All the relationships I've had all contained an element of secrecy. Much of it due to family issues.

Also, I've had a few unrequited loves, and those all had their Venus land in my 12th. It seems to be some sort of Fate for me. Or something! Maybe a big Karmic lesson I'm meant to learn this go-around.

My Sun, Jupiter and Mars are in the 12th. Yes, I have A LOT of secrets. Right now, t.Uranus is in there, and I now seem to have more secrets than ever. Don't know why, or what that portends....

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posted December 05, 2011 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CAY_512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Wow, looking back, almost all of my ex's have either had their Venus my 12th, or my Venus has landed in their 12th.

All the relationships I've had all contained an element of secrecy. Much of it due to family issues.

Also, I've had a few unrequited loves, and those all had their Venus land in my 12th. It seems to be some sort of Fate for me. Or something! Maybe a big Karmic lesson I'm meant to learn this go-around.

My Sun, Jupiter and Mars are in the 12th. Yes, I have A LOT of secrets. Right now, t.Uranus is in there, and I now seem to have more secrets than ever. Don't know why, or what that portends....


That's interesting. My sister and brother both have majority of their personal planets in the 12th. I will have to ask them how they feel about things. I know my sister never wants to express how she feels. They are both pretty private about many issues pertaining to themselves.

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posted December 05, 2011 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It means they are absent to u in one way or another.

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posted December 05, 2011 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

I am looking at a few different charts of people from my past and present and I can see a lot of 12th house interaction.

I am definitely seeing a lot of the deepness and secret world. The understanding without needing words is there too...

I have my Pluto/ASC/Vesta all in my partner's 12th house in Libra...

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posted December 05, 2011 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
I have relatives who have placements in my 12th. Doesn't really work out well.

I've read though that in romantic relationships, it's not a good sign either. The 12th is secrets as well as prisons, institutions, and self-undoing.

Take from that what you want.


The self undoing... what does that even mean? Mars in the 12th means I'll commit suicide? I don't get it.

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posted December 05, 2011 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
I had mutual Mars in 12th with someone who would probably be classed as a rebound/sex buddy/"lover" (this is what he considered us but to me that's a term used by delusional romantics).

It played out exactly like the classic description: lots of underhanded fighting, attempting to get into each others' psyches, challenges in establishing defined boundaries.

I did not want anyone to know about my dalliance with him. It would have hurt my ex (we're still friends) if he knew. I kept him hidden from the beginning and he disliked the sneaking around at first but eventually followed suit. And then at that point it started bugging me.

And no matter how many times I tried confronting any issues directly, he would evade them. Obviously there was a lot of repressed anger at each other but neither of us could bring it to the surface to directly address when we were together.

I couldn't deal with his nonsense or understand my own, so I just cut him out of my life.

Maybe if you're a Water sign, you might enjoy this synastry placement but I have Capricorn Sun conjunct Mars so have little patience for all that shilly-shallying.

My Sun was in his 12th and he kept saying he loves me but I sure didn't see it reflected in his actions. I think the Sun feels paranoid in the 12th House so I couldn't believe a word that came out of his mouth. I have a feeling he betrayed me somehow behind my back.

His Sun was in my 3rd and I wanted conversation but it's like his mind turned to mush due to that 12th House being lit up by my Sun.

I didn't have such issues when my Sun was in someone's 10th House. Capricorn Sun & Mars felt right at home there and stuck around for a decade until Saturn Return said time to go. So if you're an earth sign, 12th House synastry is frustrating.


I had nearly the same exact experience with my ex-boyfriend! I swear he just gave me a random time and not his real time of birth, 'cause I read stuff and it doesn't match with what's in our houses but it's pretty spot on, such as your example.

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