posted December 11, 2011 03:46 AM            

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
The op if you want to connect the dots, look into yourself, and find out why you've resorted on being the way you are in relationships. Its a psychological issue. Maybe you lack empathy? Maybe you like the power trip. We don't know. Youre not clear on what you are asking... and you seem very sarcastic with your remarks...

I can help you connect the dots: Grow up a bit, experience what its like for yourself to be in the position of being cheated on. Then maybe you'll get the picture perhaps?

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posted December 11, 2011 03:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Intense_Aquavixen:
No doubt about that...I'm looking at the whole pie. Cheating must be ever so rare on Lindaland! I'm not interested in marriage whatsoever and relationships are few and far between.

To reference my past, has brought about a lot of preachiness this way and I don't take to that well. Note to self, to speak loosely if I don't want to hear all that! But thanks luv!

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Ah there was a big cheating thread a few weeks ago on here. That may bring some insight?

Idk, I've cheated before, and I can't say I felt too guilty about it, so I'm certainly not judging you.

posted December 11, 2011 03:58 AM            

Sun Aquarius
Moon Aries
Mercury Capricorn
Venus Capricorn
Mars Scorpio

Jupiter Capricorn
Saturn Scorpio
Uranus Sagittarius
Neptune Capricorn
Pluto Scorpio

NN Gemini

Asc Scorpio
II Sagittarius
III Capricorn
IV Aquarius
V Pisces
VI Aries
VII Taurus
VIII Gemini
IX Cancer
Midheaven Leo
Xi Virgo
XII Libra

posted December 11, 2011 04:02 AM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
Ah there was a big cheating thread a few weeks ago on here. That may bring some insight?

Idk, I've cheated before, and I can't say I felt too guilty about it, so I'm certainly not judging you.

Maybe it would help to imagine what you're ideal relationship is like? Maybe that might help you figure out what you want.

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posted December 11, 2011 04:03 AM            

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Originally posted by woah cakes:
is your NN in your 8th or 7th?

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posted December 11, 2011 04:10 AM            

what house are these planets in? lots of cap activity one would think you'd want to keep commitment as you fear not being in any. I would be generalizing if I said your unfaithfulness is due to your sun in Aquarius but that's not true because I'm a sun in aqua and Ive yet to be unfaithful.

I still stand to the sun square Ascendent ego/power trip. perhaps u get some pleasure power trip knowing you have a handle on the men you date and after you cheat or whatnot, they still stick around this heightens that greed, ya think "Mhm got you right where I want you" power power power. am I right or wrong?

posted December 11, 2011 04:20 AM            

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
op I was judging you btw I'm not gonna deny that
I have a hard time being objective with cheaters... but let's push that aside....

what house are these planets in? lots of cap activity one would think you'd want to keep commitment as you fear not being in any. I would be generalizing if I said your unfaithfulness is due to your sun in Aquarius but that's not true because I'm a sun in aqua and Ive yet to be unfaithful.

I still stand to the sun square Ascendent ego/power trip. perhaps u get some pleasure power trip knowing you have a handle on the men you date and after you cheat or whatnot, they still stick around this heightens that greed, ya think "Mhm got you right where I want you" power power power. am I right or wrong?

why do you not like commitment? do you get bored easily? do you like knowing you have someone, this all points to power to me, and control. maybe subtle levels of it.

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I really have to say everything you just said, was so dead-on. Even the questions you just posed, again, dead-on. When I was a "younger" adult I was huge on monogamy. Married young and all that. Once I tapped mid 20's something shifted and I'm not sure at all why I'm at this point, because it completely contrasts the initial relationships years. But the way you put that, I have to agree it is indeed a power trip. I wasn't so sure if it had a lot to do with the Mars and Pluto conjuncting my Rising. I wanted to fish for possibly more beyond just that.

posted December 11, 2011 04:28 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I don't think that there is any position in astrology that is immune to cheating, nor can anyone ever say "my chart made me do it".

My own personal theory is that astrology represents a map. Astrology is what we're given by God, but WE choose what to do with it. Free will always comes in, as does upbringing and personal values, plus mental, physical, and emotional health. Two people can have the exact same placements, but have their lives turn out completely differently due to one person taking a high road and the other a lower one, or else basic life circumstances.

I would say that cheating isn't so much based on one's planets as it is based on how one lives out the lessons from those planets/how a person chooses to use the energy from a planet. I've known a Gemini (sign known for cheating) who still loves his wife deeply after decades together and to my knowledge has never cheated and I also know earth sign people who have cheated (earth being typically described as faithful), so it isn't cut-and-dry. I've often tried to figure out which chart positions are 100% "safe" or immune to cheating and have come to the conclusion that there simply are none-it really depends on the individual.

For what it's worth, I have Venus in Scorpio, conjunct Pluto, 12th house. I know five other Scorpio-influenced people (three Scorpio suns, the others with other placements) that I know for sure are absolutely loyal down to their very bones and who would never cheat; one of the Scorpio suns of whom I am thinking would probably literally die for a loved one. I know a few other Scorpio suns that I don't know as well, but I highly suspect that they would be the faithful type.

Scorpio influence alone doesn't automatically make a person 'evil'. Yes, many Scorpios end up that way, but there are some Scorpios who choose to use their power for good. I've known both the good and the evil and the good ones are amazing--very powerful force for good.

And, too, Capricorns are often (not always, but the ones that I know usually are) faithful; I notice that you have a lot of that sign in your chart as well. So, the potential for fidelity is there.

Actually, Capricorn made me think of something that you mentioned earlier: that you had cheated because you couldn't see the relationship leading to marriage. Capricorn is a very practical sign; doesn't like anything to be pointless. Perhaps this is one thing that leads to infidelity: if you don't see the relationship having a purpose or a 'point'?

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Very insightful response. Thank you for sharing. It seems that I may want to icksnay the idea to see if there is a way to compare or connect dots so to speak, with astrology. This is all about ME and what I need to work out on account of the past. Researching here however, was the possibility of seeing how the stars map out certain behaviors. I mean, it clearly maps out a lot of other behaviors, so why not cheating? But again, I get you on the above stated 100% and I don't want to fixate on the "sign" of Scorpio alone, but definitely the aspects to the houses and asteroids.

posted December 11, 2011 04:29 AM            

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Originally posted by woah cakes:
i agree with you regardes!

haha, intense aquavixen, okay but WHICH house is it in?

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posted December 11, 2011 04:37 AM            

so sun and moon and rising aside, your gemini NN in the 8th would probably look something like: intense need for intimacy but fear of it just the same; strong desire for communication but difficulty feeling you will either be heard, or in hearing others, and thus, pushing people away.

i have NN in my 8th and my partner has gemini NN. these are the themes we are struggling with. do they resonate at all?

posted December 11, 2011 04:50 AM            

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Originally posted by woah cakes:
okay out on a bit of a limb here but here's what i think..

so sun and moon and rising aside, your gemini NN in the 8th would probably look something like: intense need for intimacy but fear of it just the same. strong desire for communication but difficulty feeling you will either be heard, or in hearing others, and thus, pushing people away.

i have NN in my 8th and my partner has gemini NN. these are the themes we are struggling with. do they resonate at all?

also capricorn does get lusty-pants (it's earthy) when it is not applying itself to its highest purpose which i would imagine your not being in the 'perfect' relationship for you would incline you to feel. it is also often somewhat scared of intimacy and/or represses emotions.

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posted December 11, 2011 05:35 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
*just want to say, IntenseAquavixen, that I respect you for wanting to learn more about yourself and for reaching out here to explore self-awareness; very admirable goal :-)

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posted December 11, 2011 05:38 AM            

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Originally posted by woah cakes:
haha, laugh away! even if you were laughing at me i probably wouldn't get too offended.

okay it's really late and my brain is shutting down but i'll be back tomorrow to think over your reply cuz it somehow resonates for me and you have a very interesting personality. goodnight!

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posted December 11, 2011 05:59 AM            

I do not get this at all based on your chart ^

posted December 11, 2011 02:11 PM            

A lot of people on this board project their own fears on others. You are not here to explain yourself, you started a thread to reach more understanding in a subject related to you. Nobody in this board is god.

Also, I Have gotten hurt really bad and I didn't spend my time hating him but trying to understand him as a person and took full responsibility for my healing. I read that you need to built up a lot of resilience before you meet your soulmate and getting hurt many times is how you built up that resilience.

So if in my next lifetime or in this one I am cheated on by my husband..I will work it out with him or let him go and if I let him go I will stay friends. In other words I will approach the situation from a place of UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. Why? because my concern is not keeping scores my concern is to not let others have control over how I feel and to grow as much as possible so I can ascend to another dimension. By approaching situation from a place of unconditional love I eliminate karma so I dont have to keep coming back and working out karma with lovers or husbands.

What can I say people like to feel sorry for themselves instead of working on the hard lesson of unconditional love and this same people want to find their twin soul. Well they wont until they learn how to love unconditional and take responsibility for their own healing. Feeling sorry for yourself is not going to attract your twin flame. Unconditional love and resilience will attract your twin flame.

posted December 11, 2011 02:26 PM            

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Originally posted by woah cakes:
okay out on a bit of a limb here but here's what i think..

so sun and moon and rising aside, your gemini NN in the 8th would probably look something like: intense need for intimacy but fear of it just the same; strong desire for communication but difficulty feeling you will either be heard, or in hearing others, and thus, pushing people away.

i have NN in my 8th and my partner has gemini NN. these are the themes we are struggling with. do they resonate at all?

also capricorn does get lusty-pants (it's earthy) when it is not applying itself to its highest purpose which i would imagine your not being in the 'perfect' relationship for you would incline you to feel. it is also often somewhat scared of intimacy and/or represses emotions.

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posted December 11, 2011 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Intense aquavix,

A lot of people on this board project their own fears on others. You are not here to explain yourself, you started a thread to reach more understanding in a subject related to you. Nobody in this board is god.

Also, I Have gotten hurt really bad and I didn't spend my time hating him but trying to understand him as a person and took full responsibility for my healing. I read that you need to built up a lot of resilience before you meet your soulmate and getting hurt many times is how you built up that resilience.

So if in my next lifetime or in this one I am cheated on by my husband..I will work it out with him or let him go and if I let him go I will stay friends. In other words I will approach the situation from a place of UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. Why? because my concern is not keeping scores my concern is to not let others have control over how I feel and to grow as much as possible so I can ascend to another dimension. By approaching situation from a place of unconditional love I eliminate karma so I dont have to keep coming back and working out karma with lovers or husbands.

What can I say people like to feel sorry for themselves instead of working on the hard lesson of unconditional love and this same people want to find their twin soul. Well they wont until they learn how to love unconditional and take responsibility for their own healing. Feeling sorry for yourself is not going to attract your twin flame. Unconditional love and resilience will attract your twin flame.

Aquavix it sounds like you are currently single. If I were you I will take advantage of this and only get involved with people who are open to having open relationships from now on. That way you can be who you are free without having to hide.

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posted December 11, 2011 03:09 PM            

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You are not here to explain yourself

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Unless she wants to explain herself

Just wanted to say - Aquavixen - I am not personally judging. I was genuinely curious as to what makes you feel like you cannot have an open relationship.