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Intense_Aquavixen
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posted December 11, 2011 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Intense_Aquavixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sun squares my ascendant (Scorpio) so I juggle with contradictions in presentation fairly often. Same thing applies with fidelity and infidelity. I have cheated often in my adulthood, but with a certain BF here and there I wouldn't. Selfish much? Something like that. Because strangely the companions I had, didn't care to ask me, and I could tell they did "sense" I was.

Then they just worked harder to keep me instead of kicking my selfish chops to the curb! BEING HONEST!

I read on some sight I stumbled upon via search engine, that an Arian moon (amongst others things) can highlight fidelity issues. Can anyone help me to draw some distinctions?

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posted December 11, 2011 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Straying from Astrology here, since the stars do not compel..
Psychologically why do you lack a moral compass?

Jk jk.
But really.. WHY are you unfaithful to your partners?
Do you do it because its a game, you want to see what 'partner' will get rid of you etc?

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posted December 11, 2011 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Intense_Aquavixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Didn't come forward to explain all my discrepancies in detail...that's too much. But to speak bluntly, I did what I wanted depending on the companion involved at the time. Period. I knew they weren't gonna be nothing more than a season, not a potential spouse. So the whole moral thing you implied (even while joking) doesn't even faze me. I don't go with status quo on all things considered moral in life.

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posted December 11, 2011 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So then what is there to discuss? You know you like to have your cake and eat it to. You know you like to get involved with people knowing full well you don't want what they want, you'd rather use them in your fashion and to whatever extent that suits your needs and your needs only, as you yourself describe as "Selfishness". I mean its great that YOU know yourself these people you get involved with are just "Seasons" but something tells me you do not make this clear with the people you involve yourself with, hence why you deduce it as "cheating" because they were not aware of it at all.

fact of the matter is, Karma is a b*tch. Whenever you decide to polish the moral compass of yours, find someone you want to settle down with, they'll go doing the same thing you did in your previous relationships.

I don't mean to come down hard, but I don't understand what you are asking. You seem content with your current stance and views on relationships. I strongly wish you just wouldn't get involved with people romantically unless you actually make it clear on what you want and how your style is.. your type of mentality is toxic and its the reason why people develop trust issues and possibly become the cheaters themselves. Its a triggering behavior, your actions have consequences, its a sequence.

and are you an aries? what is your sun, you say your ascendant scorpio? I assume you want power, its all a game to you, relationships. You like that even though you treat your partners very poorly, almost like possessions easily expendable, you enjoy the fact that they "didn't care to ask me, and i could tell they did sense i was." Do you like that you have this idea that you can/are getting away with being disrespectful towards someone in a relationship, do you like that perhaps they want you so badly that they are willing to keep tight lipped/do nothing about it/or even if knowing about your unfaithfulness decide to still keep you around? Is that fun for you?

Its a serious question btw.

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posted December 11, 2011 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey aquavix,

Perhaps moon in aries likes immediate gratification and likes excitement and lots of passion, hence the need for more than one partner.

Is your moon in the fifth? perhaps romance the 5th house is your outlet to a tquare in your chart.

Do you have karma in leo bc if so I read that this people are destined to have many romances, they are here to have fun bc they didn't play much in previous lives.

Amelia

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posted December 11, 2011 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really don't think it's an aries moon thing. At the end of the day most cheaters cheat bc of impulsiveness and selfishness. They lack in empathy and decide that ultimately, their desires trumped staying true to their partner and not hurting them.

I think the OP probably has gemini placements, alot of mutable and maybe hard uranus and neptune aspects. Maybe a venus square mars.

But moving away from astrology, it's all about having empathy and choosing to respect your s/o.

Aries are known to be quite blunt, but cheating takes deceit, so....
I choose to live life thinking of consequences and how it affects other people. It actually really annoys me that some people don't bloody learn from their mistakes.

But then again, you only learn when you stumble and fall right?

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posted December 11, 2011 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I were you, I'd look at your whole chart. It's not just one thing. Condition of Venus, Mars & DSC would be factors.

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posted December 11, 2011 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a lot of Mutable Pisces in my chart. Im not unfaithful gal

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posted December 11, 2011 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Intense_Aquavixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Hey aquavix,

Perhaps moon in aries likes immediate gratification and likes excitement and lots of passion, hence the need for more than one partner.

Is your moon in the fifth? perhaps romance the 5th house is your outlet to a tquare in your chart.

Do you have karma in leo bc if so I read that this people are destined to have many romances, they are here to have fun bc they didn't play much in previous lives.

Amelia


Hey thanks Amelia! For providing some aspects to go on! Still playing with the chart real and what not!

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posted December 11, 2011 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So op what is your sun sign?

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posted December 11, 2011 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah but don't you have some stabilising saturn? And like leo desc? And fixed placements?

Cheating fcks up people. All bc of an ex, I've now got alot of emotional issues. It just makes me so frustrated how he got off scot free, while I have to deal with these issues every fcking day.

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posted December 11, 2011 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Intense_Aquavixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amowls**:
If I were you, I'd look at your whole chart. It's not just one thing. Condition of Venus, Mars & DSC would be factors.

No doubt about that...I'm looking at the whole pie. Cheating must be ever so rare on Lindaland! I'm not interested in marriage whatsoever and relationships are few and far between.

To reference my past, has brought about a lot of preachiness this way and I don't take to that well. Note to self, to speak loosely if I don't want to hear all that! But thanks luv!

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posted December 11, 2011 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^You know what ****** me off? The fact you don't seem remorseful or guilty at all. You seem smug.

There are cheaters who cheat once and feel so bad they don't ever do it again and then there are people like you.
Whatever. Karma's a ***** , I sure wouldn't want to be you when it comes knocking. =)

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posted December 11, 2011 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Intense_Aquavixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ppl are really in their feelings on this sight ehh?

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posted December 11, 2011 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think it could be somewhat (potentially) attributable to aries moon. well i have dated two. one cheated a LOT and covered it all up (moon in 8th). the other was very monogomous (moon in 7th). i think it's an impulsive placement for the moon and depending on a LOT of factors i can see how it would exacerbate that possibility.

just my two cents.

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posted December 11, 2011 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Intense_Aquavixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by woah cakes:
i think it could be somewhat (potentially) attributable to aries moon. well i have dated two. one cheated a LOT and covered it all up (moon in 8th). the other was very monogomous (moon in 7th). i think it's an impulsive placement for the moon and depending on a LOT of factors i can see how it would exacerbate that possibility.

just my two cents.


Right. Moon aside, I'm toying around with this site I found that pin points (somewhat) aspects that sort of define dangerous behaviors. Because I call a spade a spade, it is what it is. Not all modes of behaviors fall on Astrology alone...but the reading I have going on right now is speaking volumes! Thanks luv!

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posted December 11, 2011 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay.. i'm not sure if that was sincere or not but you're welcome.

moon aside, astrology aside, sure. i wonder what exactly you're trying to figure out?

do you mean this site or another?

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posted December 11, 2011 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Yeah but don't you have some stabilising saturn? And like leo desc? And fixed placements?

Cheating fcks up people. All bc of an ex, I've now got alot of emotional issues. It just makes me so frustrated how he got off scot free, while I have to deal with these issues every fcking day.



I know how you feel.. one of my taurus friends, his girlfriend cheated on him. It makes me so SAD because he is the definition of a really sweet/generous/nice/loyal guy and now I know why guys like HiM go wrong because they end up with unfaithful cheaters that have 0 empathy. It breaks my heart cause guys like him are SOOO rare to find.. after she cheated on him it messed him up..

Agree with you. ive been with a cheater, moved on from it, learned to trust but it was NOT easy.

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posted December 11, 2011 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont even know what the op wants.

All i am getting is "i dont have empathy so..." like i dont see what the op is looking for...........

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posted December 11, 2011 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah it really does. well my trust issues may have started with my dad who is a big cheater type, but since that aries moon bf i've found it quite hard to trust men. still a worthwhile lesson, but not one people should put others (and themselves) through.

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posted December 11, 2011 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The op if you want to connect the dots, look into yourself, and find out why you've resorted on being the way you are in relationships. Its a psychological issue. Maybe you lack empathy? Maybe you like the power trip. We don't know. Youre not clear on what you are asking... and you seem very sarcastic with your remarks...

I can help you connect the dots: Grow up a bit, experience what its like for yourself to be in the position of being cheated on. Then maybe you'll get the picture perhaps?

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posted December 11, 2011 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Intense_Aquavixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by woah cakes:
okay.. i'm not sure if that was sincere or not but you're welcome.

moon aside, astrology aside, sure. i wonder what exactly you're trying to figure out?


It was sincere indeed. I've had one friend look at my chart and clearly see there's a lot of "hardness" going on. Tons of Scorpio and such. I have a lot of good about me, but I'm interested in the bad right now. I acknowledge the facts as is, and the inquiry is indeed to see what fraction of my behavior corresponds with astrology. The disregard towards love is def a puzzle I'm mapping out.

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posted December 11, 2011 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my ex was an aqua with aries moon in the 8th so similar to you in a way. he has trouble understanding himself beyond his personal desires. do you have that too?

i'm also an aqua sun fwiw.

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posted December 11, 2011 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cool. well where is your NN?

my ex's was in libra so he is (let's hope) learning to be more attuned to others and less selfish.

do you have any water in your chart?

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posted December 11, 2011 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he said he had scorp rising makes me thing he's a lover of power and control which he clearly gets from cheating and getting away with it.

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