posted December 30, 2011 07:35 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Kannon,what degree orb do you use for parallels to Asc?
I use 1 degree.

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I used to use 1*, but I have become convinced that 1.5* orb is still an active aspect, based on independently given information from clients. 1* is a nice clean figure to work with, but I've come across many charts that just don't make sense with that tight an orb.

posted December 30, 2011 07:41 PM            

These descriptions have taken into account humans in general across ethnicities - best as I could do so far. The facial outlines can be very helpful, at least in determining the Quality of the sign.

posted December 30, 2011 10:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
YoursTrulyAlways,

These descriptions have taken into account humans in general across ethnicities - best as I could do so far. The facial outlines can be very helpful, at least in determining the Quality of the sign.

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Mr. McAfee,

Sir, I meant absolutely no disrespect by my remarks. I don't fully comprehend the complexities of the task at hand because I'm not in your shoes, but I can nevertheless appreciate the enormity of the effort that you have exercised in coming up with those descriptions.

However, unfortunately, the truth on my end - and only for me as an individual - is that I remain unable to identify myself with the ASC of Pisces, even though I do have a roundish face. I don't have a narrow/longish face. My eyes are not large and round; they are narrow and tiny and small. I attribute the shape of my face simply to being Asian who is mildly overweight, with a subjective probability of an average to plump Asian man having a round face. Along the same line of thought, it also holds true for common characteristics such as narrowish eyes that are somewhat slanted inwards. At the end of the day, I simply look like any other Asian guy.

The truth of the matter is that my personality is quite in line with that of an Aries ASC. However, I have yet to see, among my circle of Asian friends and acquaintances, more than a very small handful of men with chiseled faces and well defined jaw lines. Those are faces I would typically identify with Celtic, Slavic or Scandinavian men. Perhaps Asian men are the anomaly, and I can readily accept that.

posted December 31, 2011 12:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I used to use 1*, but I have become convinced that 1.5* orb is still an active aspect, based on independently given information from clients. 1* is a nice clean figure to work with, but I've come across many charts that just don't make sense with that tight an orb.

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posted December 31, 2011 01:19 AM            

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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
I don't understand....
I am a Virgo Rising but I don't have a big head or forhead. My eyes are large...any bigger and I'd look like an alien...and they're evenly spaced. I have a small mouth and slightly v-shaped face though.
So why are the descriptions for leo and virgo rising both partly right for me? Is there such a thing as an ASC cusp?

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posted December 31, 2011 02:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ What about Uma thurman? http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-09/23/xin_470901231127031202229.jpg

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Oh,the goddess Virgo Asc
Her Merc is in Taurus,she leans more toward hourglass,but being tall (183cm) and slim it doesn't show as much. It is very feminine to have curvy thighs but slim calves.

posted December 31, 2011 03:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ You have a good eye, Ms. Leo/Libra (!)

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posted December 31, 2011 07:36 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Mr. McAfee,

Sir, I meant absolutely no disrespect by my remarks. I don't fully comprehend the complexities of the task at hand because I'm not in your shoes, but I can nevertheless appreciate the enormity of the effort that you have exercised in coming up with those descriptions.

However, unfortunately, the truth on my end - and only for me as an individual - is that I remain unable to identify myself with the ASC of Pisces, even though I do have a roundish face. I don't have a narrow/longish face. My eyes are not large and round; they are narrow and tiny and small. I attribute the shape of my face simply to being Asian who is mildly overweight, with a subjective probability of an average to plump Asian man having a round face. Along the same line of thought, it also holds true for common characteristics such as narrowish eyes that are somewhat slanted inwards. At the end of the day, I simply look like any other Asian guy.

The truth of the matter is that my personality is quite in line with that of an Aries ASC. However, I have yet to see, among my circle of Asian friends and acquaintances, more than a very small handful of men with chiseled faces and well defined jaw lines. Those are faces I would typically identify with Celtic, Slavic or Scandinavian men. Perhaps Asian men are the anomaly, and I can readily accept that.

In any event, I meant no disrespect by my remarks and I thank you for your informative post.

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The only 'disrespect' would be for you to keep calling me "Mr. McAfee" ... No disrespect taken.

Glad you brought up the roundish/tapering face of Pisces. In my upcoming book, tentatively titled The Faces of Astrology, I'll address the similarities between the cardinal and mutable sign faces. A Pisces type can have a roundish face, especially if there are other cardinal elements in the chart. A Capricorn type can have a narrower face too. The key is that there are other indicators there, and personality considerations that will clarify (especially for rectification purposes) if the facial outline does not.

What part of the description of Pisces rising do you not identify with?

How would you describe your personality and body type or noticeable features?

posted December 31, 2011 07:40 AM            

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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
I don't understand....
I am a Virgo Rising but I don't have a big head or forhead. My eyes are large...any bigger and I'd look like an alien...and they're evenly spaced. I have a small mouth and slightly v-shaped face though.
So why are the descriptions for leo and virgo rising both partly right for me? Is there such a thing as an ASC cusp?

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Yes. Asc 29* Leo can create a mixed type with more Virgo than usual, as well as having Virgo intercepted in the 1st house.

posted January 01, 2012 01:40 AM            

"Sometimes the head simply tapers from a wider forehead to a narrower chin in a V-shape like Virgo.": Yes I do have a wider forehead...a round face that can be construe as Asian/Latina/Filipina.

"The energy is expansive, believing, outgoing, friendly and open, but many have "fled-to-the-head" with their expansive energy.": Yes this is true of me.

"The voice bears the same quality and the laughter can be especially uplifting, infectious and attention getting.": When I laugh, other people want to laugh too. It is loud and boisterous at times. People have described my laughter as infectious and unique.

"The speech can sometimes involve stuttering because of enthusiastic thought energy that is so rapid it cannot be translated into words. At the very least excitability shows unless there is adequate earth, fixity or water to calm things down.": I at times have a hard time conveying my words in a fluid manner because my thoughts race way faster than my speech and at times does come out not fluid and not exactly a stutter either.

"The ears and lobes are long most often and this distinguishes them from Capricorn, which has little if any ear lobes. The distance from mouth to chin is often elongated.": Hmmm...I think my ears and lobes are well proportioned, not too or too short. Not sure about having mouth to chin elongation either--just well proportioned.

"The eyes can be especially brilliant, sparkling or twinkling and the energy is close to the surface nearly all the time.": This is very true of me.

"They are of the tallest in the zodiac, and the most extroverted.": Uh I'm so not tall..I'm 5'2". I'm at times extroverted depending on the situation. I like being around people and at the same time I need time to myself to recuperate and gather myself.

"These people love freedom and truth, and are adventurous in their exploration of people, nature, philosophy and lands. They are actively open to the world, optimists, but oddly, often hypochondriac." Yes yes very much true about me. Freedom in everything ranks number one for me. Freedom of choice, freedom to the truth, etc...highly important. Love people, nature, philosophy, cultures, accents, all that is unique and exotic. Love love it. As for being a hypochondriac, I don't really make up my sickness...I do get sick a lot due in part to strange allergies. Neptune in 12th--I may have "health problems that are difficult to diagnose so that I receive erroneous treatments or medications which can harm" me. I "must avoid drugs and use instead more natural cures to prevent poisoning." I was quite astounded to see it in my natal report because I have personal testament to this. Some folks have perceived me being a hypochondriac though.

"The build is athletic, slender most often, but sometimes with more width. Even if short, the extroverted nature and breezy, friendly, open attitude gives them away.": I'm a bit a athletic build...lots of muscles and curvy at the same time. I'm an inverted triangle. I do get compliments a lot on my great legs. My derriere is not pronounced though..just small and pert. Big chest though.

"Their vision is farsighted and they must reach what captures their interest. They are restless and need to move and travel." Very true about me.

"The women are often tomboys in youth, going along and doing what the boys do, but can settle into womanhood to be quite appealing.": This is also quite true about me. When in youth, I used to climb trees, love the outdoors and quite tomboyish...even excel and quite stronger than my male counterpart. I don't like to wear makeup as much as I prefer being natural. Only recently did I started to apply makeup. Not overmuch of course--just minimal. Enough to make people notice.

posted January 02, 2012 06:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
raya,

Your description of yourself is classic Sag and I'd recognize that immediately if I were doing a chart rectification/validation for you.

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It is odd that the first guy I went to rectify my chart didn't get it right. Maybe he got really confused about the hard life I led..very depressing childhood so maybe he got it confused with Capricorn Rising.

Kannon how much do you charge for chart rectification? And what details do you need in order for you to rectify a chart? I paid a guy to do it and he got my ascendant incorrect. Only after an offhand conversation with someone who practiced astrology for a long time did I find that I'm more of a Sag Asc.

posted January 02, 2012 06:13 PM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Well, Libra women are often curvy. Out of all of the Libra ladies that I know, and I know a LOT of them, only one has been really skinny (and naturally skinny, too)--as in super-thin. A few have been more slender, but still with a few curves. The ones that I know with fewer curves who aren't super-thin have Virgo in the chart somewhere (usually Venus).

Also, what's your moon? I can definitely feel my moon sign (Cancer) come out in my appearance too, as well as my Venus (Scorpio). Do you notice that anything about your appearance as connected to your moon and Venus? (To my understanding, Venus is connected to aesthetics so I'm wondering if your Venus matches your style in clothing).

I'm personally not really surprised by your ASC in terms of personality; you definitely seem well-balanced and pleasant and all. So, even if you don't look exactly like the description, you definitely come off as very Libran, or at least I think so!

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posted January 02, 2012 06:59 PM            

It's only half of my face, but you can see that you hit some valid points.

posted January 02, 2012 08:16 PM            

Im curious.. Do you think my leo shows all the way through and I dont really look Pisces at all?