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Topic: Art in Relation to Natal Mercury and Venus.. what school of Art do you lean towards?
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Neptune'sDaughter Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Santa Monica, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2011
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posted January 12, 2012 05:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by tautomer4314: My mercury and venus are both in gemini, and they are conjunct each other.As far as art goes. My favorite style is surrealism. I do like when it has crossovers however. I like anything that is "realistic with twists in reality thrown in". This is a music video, but it is completely art to me. The entire band/project is very focused on it. It also highlights my style a ton
I love that first one -actually I like them all! And YES music videos definitely can be Art! Merc conj Venus, hey? Do you feel that that gives you a good natural instinct for what an Art piece is trying to communicate? Or do you find it easy to discuss art? Is art an easy way for you to communicate? Just wondering how that plays out.. ------------------ "You may say that I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one..." IP: Logged |
Neptune'sDaughter Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Santa Monica, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2011
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posted January 12, 2012 05:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by RegardesPlatero: I like the Impressionists. My favorite is Renoir; Degas is second. (Degas hated being called "Impressionist," though--he didn't like that term for some reason--his style still fits the term). I tend to prefer the French in art, as I also do when it comes to fashion... Here is Renoir's chart:
Interesting about Degas! I had always wondered about that when I looked at his art, esp. when it is next to Van gogh's there. Van gogh seemed to have have found a haven in Impressionism while Degas seemed to tolerate it a bit lol
Renoir again with the pisces/aries influence! Alot of artists I've looked have this in sun/moon/merc/mars/venus somewhere! ------------------ "You may say that I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one..." IP: Logged |
Neptune'sDaughter Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Santa Monica, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2011
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posted January 12, 2012 06:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Delilah: Hmmm... I have Mercury in Libra in my 9H and Venus in Virgo in my 8H. Growing up I loved fashion, still do. My preference goes back and forth between Bohemian hippie, Bohemian goth, and lazy comfort. I've kept a high price catalog for over ten years because I still love the clothes they were selling for that season. I also like literature and art that is considered dark and a bit taboo. For instance, I can't get enough of Edward Gorey's illustrations. Even have the Gashlycrumb Tinies and can't wait to pass it on to my own kids, if I have any.
Looks like the House gives a flavor to your preferences there with the goth and 8thH Venus. I can't tell the difference much because mine is venus in aqua in the 11th -that house cusp is Cap though and I like the thought of art that can sustain time and grow in influence and importance. Like it actually BLOWS MY MIND that I am looking at something that an artist poured his/her entire existence into over a hundred years ago.. and that people are finally seeing and appreciating the artist now. Oh so bittersweet the Arts! ------------------ "You may say that I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one..." IP: Logged |
Neptune'sDaughter Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Santa Monica, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2011
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posted January 12, 2012 06:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: richard serra sculpture http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/surveys/art/
I took the test! Thanks Sand! "Impressionist paintings often appear on mugs, calendars and posters. However, they weren't always so socially acceptable. Impressionist painters were initially criticized for attempting to capture the fleeting effects of light and colour found in nature. Using daubs of pure colour, they painted landscapes, sunlight reflecting on water and flowers and rejected the traditional subjects and darker colours advocated by their teachers. Claude Monet founded Impressionism in Paris during the 1870s and painted for more than 60 years. One of his works, 'Impression: Sunrise,' gave the style its name. Monet once said: "For me, a landscape does not exist in its own right, since its appearance changes at every moment... It is only the surrounding atmosphere which gives subjects their true value."" And.. "Your favourite type of art is Impressionism. In the personality profile you had a high intellectualism score, which suggests you like to think about abstract ideas and have a creative imagination. People who are the same age and sex as you are most likely to prefer Impressionism People who also score highly in your dominant personality trait are most likely to prefer Impressionism" The test only covers these types of Art:
"These are the styles of art used in the Art and Personality experiment.
Early 20th century Abstract: Abstract art often leaves people asking: "Is this art?" And that's precisely the reaction many artists want to provoke. In its purest form, abstract art doesn't show recognisable objects or figures. The artist represents his inner thoughts and feelings with shapes, lines, colours and tones. Early 20th century Cubism: Looking at a cubist painting is a bit like gazing into a shattered mirror – the image is fragmented and you can see it from different angles.
Pablo Picasso and Georges Braque invented Cubism between 1907 and 1914 and, in the process, threw out the painting 'rulebook'. Late 19th century Impressionism: Impressionist paintings often appear on mugs, calendars and posters. However, they weren't always so socially acceptable. Impressionist painters were initially criticized for attempting to capture the fleeting effects of light and colour found in nature.
Using daubs of pure colour, they painted landscapes, sunlight reflecting on water and flowers and rejected the traditional subjects and darker colours advocated by their teachers. 17th to mid-19th century Japanese: Japanese ukiyo-e ('pictures of the floating world') are woodblock prints that usually show scenes from everyday life. They are prized around the world for their simplicity and elegance.
At the height of ukiyo-e production in the late 1700s, erotic images of women and depictions of actors were popular. 16th century Northern Renaissance: The most famous Renaissance artists worked in Italy during the 15th and 16th centuries. Leonardo da Vinci and Raphael are household names. But the Renaissance, or the artistic rebirth, which followed the Middle Ages, also happened a little later in other parts of Europe. Northern Renaissance painters of the 16th century had their own style and created works focused on morality, religion and human nature. After AD 622 Secular Islamic: Unlike western art, Islamic art is difficult to separate into different styles. That's because, for the most part, artists in countries influenced by Islam continued to follow traditional methods. Western artists, on the other hand, have periodically rebelled against tradition and created radically new styles – abstract art, for example. That's not to say Islamic art isn't innovative. Artist's tended to put their new ideas in the detail, which isn't always noticeable at first."
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tautomer4314 Knowflake Posts: 659 From: Oregon Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 12, 2012 09:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Neptune'sDaughter: I love that first one -actually I like them all! And YES music videos definitely can be Art!Merc conj Venus, hey? Do you feel that that gives you a good natural instinct for what an Art piece is trying to communicate? Or do you find it easy to discuss art? Is art an easy way for you to communicate? Just wondering how that plays out..
I find it pretty easy to communicate art and understanding possible meanings behind it. Really, anything that can communicated I generally find pretty easy and enjoyable. I love talking with others, and this is just yet another thing that can be discussed. ------------------ It's All Elemental ----- My Chart if relevant IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4557 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted January 13, 2012 05:04 AM
I this thread! I used to be A LOT into surrealism. We're talking about being a total nut case about French Surrealism in all Arts. Poetry especially but also the Fine Arts. I'm an Aqua rising with Mars in Aqua trine Uranus in the 8th (and I was not into astrology back then so I had no clue). That kind of poetry spoke to me at the same time when everyone was like "what the hell is this about?" LOL Checking Kush's link and Oh.My.Gawd. melikey!!  Thanks for this thread!!!
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anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4557 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted January 13, 2012 06:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Neptune'sDaughter: I agree! Virgos (that I've known -aka ALOT lol) have such an earthy, live-able artisticness that they quite often seem oblivious to or that they downplay and are shy about. Actually, one of my favorite things about being friends/close with virgos is to cross that opposing bridge and meet each other half way at this 'ralistic fairyland'. When I was younger I could play music by ear but I was also overwhelmed by alot I wanted to express and which medium I should use. My lil brother (Virgo) would yell from his room "Come on Sis, play the piano -I'll play the drums for you and you can sing!" He was the first one to want to hear my music outside of me and he was able to help it out and 'ground' me. He is also easily talented in ANYthing he tries!
It's funny but I have a strong Virgo (SN in Virgo and Pluto in conj in the 8th house). I used to play music by ear too. I also used to paint and draw without ever being taught how to. I was never encouraged to follow Art, my family was not artistic (although they are super-creative) and so I never thought I had a talent or anything. But I've done like all kinds of art including writing poetry and novels, and playing instruments. I have no clue how bad or good I am at them. My Neptune is in Scorpio on my MC along with my Sun and Merc. I have quite a few indications that Art could be a successful career for me, but having never received any special feedback to my efforts, I just don't see it. On the other hand, I have developed my rational mind quite a bit. And I have gotten quite the recognition for doing so. Virgo seems to relish this kind of focus as well. Interesting to hear that Virgo is artistic; I truly never thought of that before!
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Lonake Moderator Posts: 8748 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 13, 2012 07:23 AM
Mercury Aquarius, Venus Capricorn Art Nouveau as a style I like a lot. Some random images I love, these are sculptures, underwater, For that BBC test I got, Your favourite type of art is secular Islamic. In the personality profile you had a high intellectualism score, which suggests you like to think about abstract ideas and have a creative imagination. People who are the same age and sex as you are most likely to prefer Impressionism People who also score highly in your dominant personality trait are most likely to prefer Impressionism IP: Logged |
pandacake Knowflake Posts: 321 From: Europe Registered: May 2011
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posted January 13, 2012 07:46 AM
I'm Libra Venus and Mercury, I enjoy many forms of art, but what I truly like is everything involving the Jugendstil movement, whether it's architecture, home deco, clothing or paintings ... I guess I just like everything curly wurley. 
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pandacake Knowflake Posts: 321 From: Europe Registered: May 2011
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posted January 13, 2012 07:49 AM
My Aquarius Venus, Cap Mercury friend at the other hand loves everything that tickles the brain like: IP: Logged |
sc0rpioRising Knowflake Posts: 596 From: somewhere! Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 13, 2012 07:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by BeholdAstarte: milk is awesome. GAAAWD I LOVE ARTISTIC EXPRESSSSSSSIOOOON!!!!!! its so flippen great/awesome. humans are capable of amazing things some of the many :3
Oh gosh.. the first one... that completely stunned me.. love it! IP: Logged |
Chironrising Knowflake Posts: 590 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 13, 2012 09:38 AM
I think every planet plays into it. I'm a venus in aquarius and I'm a mercury in sagitarius...I like progressive art from the past though because i'm a cap stellium - neptune jupiter sun...and the mercury in sagitarius has to make it mean something real...for example these drawings resonate with me, especially the first one.. http://youtu.be/YfbuP40bpiU In general I appreciate all art and see it as valuable... venus conjunct mc I guess... I also love the blues, and I also change alot regarding art and what i value...sentimental meaningful stuff always kick me in the nuggets, and leave me tearing. IP: Logged |
Chironrising Knowflake Posts: 590 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 13, 2012 10:09 AM
Also, I really liked all pieces of art above...all of it...when I was a kid i loved comic book art too.IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 6997 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 13, 2012 10:14 AM
quote: Your favourite type of art is Impressionism. In the personality profile you had a high intellectualism score, which suggests you like to think about abstract ideas and have a creative imagination. People who are the same age and sex as you are most likely to prefer Impressionism People who also score highly in your dominant personality trait are most likely to prefer Impressionism
hmm.. i dunno the first painting i ever bought was an impressionist painting but i got bored with it immediately. they are i guess calming too look at. i would definitely buy the abstractions.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/surveys/art/abstract.shtml or the japanese.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/surveys/art/japanese.shtml i thot there were more to come so i was saving my high scores for the others doh! also i see there's no such thing as religious tho it's the same test so i must have tested secular islamic before. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 6997 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 13, 2012 10:31 AM
franceco clemente- venus in pisces, mercury in aries IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 4354 From: Surfing Kite. Seriously. Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 13, 2012 10:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by BeholdAstarte: artwork that can push the boundaries of reality and the tangible are amazing, thats what makes art so fascinating. being able to create whats so unique in an individuals mind. take alexander grey for example, he does a perfect job incorperating a visual on spiritual energies and chakras and symbols. i really enjoy seeing the talent in drawings/paintings that are practically like a photograph, but it takes a lot more to be able to construct a visually appealing peace of artwork without having to look at anything else. when theres talent like that why not push it to its farthest boundaries?
Painters when portraying always have a model. And model is never is never as if photographed. Model triggers the creation process.
So,I think you are safe if you look at something and in your drawing take it to another level  IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte Knowflake Posts: 400 From: las vegas, nevada, USA Registered: Dec 2009
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posted January 13, 2012 01:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Neptune'sDaughter: I agree! Virgos (that I've known -aka ALOT lol) have such an earthy, live-able artisticness that they quite often seem oblivious to or that they downplay and are shy about. Actually, one of my favorite things about being friends/close with virgos is to cross that opposing bridge and meet each other half way at this 'ralistic fairyland'. When I was younger I could play music by ear but I was also overwhelmed by alot I wanted to express and which medium I should use. My lil brother (Virgo) would yell from his room "Come on Sis, play the piano -I'll play the drums for you and you can sing!" He was the first one to want to hear my music outside of me and he was able to help it out and 'ground' me. He is also easily talented in ANYthing he tries!My mother is shy like that BIG time. She would always compare her creativity with that of me (pisces sun/merc), my sister (aries sun) and my grandma (libra). Growing up she did not think that things that she did were creative or artistic compared to my grandma and my aunt and later compared to us kids. We all played instruments self-taught and did all sorts of art mediums and writing, etc. Yet I constantly tried to point out how she was creative and artistic in everything she did. Dressing, home decor, storytelling -life in general she taught us to see vividly and inspirationally. From little things like her keeping her own coloring books and secret 'design' notebooks that contained her clothing and jewelry ideas to major home renovations and design. The reason us kids are so creative and artistic is because she really nurtured our confidence that we are innately and uniquely talented and that we should be humble but proud of it. Not once in our childhood were we told we could not create something that we dreamt up. NEVER. In true Virgo sun, Aries Moon fashion my mom would say "Write it down! Remember it! Don't tell everybody and when you can one day COPYRIGHT it -you can really do that someday. You could be the first to do that! You could make money off of that!" So yeah for all her faults (I have scorpmoon conjunct pluto opposed mars for crying out loud) THAT aspect of creativity and artistic vision and support was absolutely priceless!! Right now she is back to school for fashion/jewelry design and starting her own business. She was going into cosmetology until she got pregnant with me young. We are out of contact but I am so proud of her for that ^.^ Oh yeah, She is also a 12th house Neptune.
thats really neat/cool your momma was such a positive encouragement in your life. virgo is really a talented sign at its best. my dads always been really good at something, i think since his moon is in aries he directs its talents towards more outdoorsy activities, like some sort of sport, or he was really good at welding, and when he met my mom he use to be a mining engineer. and my g-pa (dads daddy) is a virgo also but a bit opposite in ways becuase instead of my dads virgo sun conjunct mars his was conjunct venus with a pisces moon. he too, seems to be really talented in whatever he chooses to master. when he use to do lapodary, he gave me some of the stones he cut and faceted and they are amazing to say the least, it takes soo much patience and meticulous detail to be able to facet a stone PERFECTLY haha, i think they even mentioned that he invented a specific cut-coffin? im not quit sure what they named it because im horrible with names but i can invision it ha. i always really enjoy hearing lifestyles or parents that encorperate music and art into the childs lives, its just so enlightening haha i like your sun, moon combo too,its really intriguin, maybe your mommas 12th house neptune is what influenced your sun? my dads a virgo and my moon is in virgo plus my louded 6th house and my moms a scorpio so i think that influenced my plutonian energy. they both also have aries moons, and a libra venus which i think contributes to my mars conjunction and libra sun.seeing parent child relations is interesting, there really seems to be a pattern at times. IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte Knowflake Posts: 400 From: las vegas, nevada, USA Registered: Dec 2009
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posted January 13, 2012 01:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by VenusDiSirius: Painters when portraying always have a model. And model is never is never as if photographed. Model triggers the creation process.So,I think you are safe if you look at something and in your drawing take it to another level 
hmm alright, so you think its safe to look at something and then take it to the next level versus just painting still life? im just curious and trying to clarify your meaning ha im just stating from my personal experience and what i find challenging. i can do still life like theres no tomorrow, one after the other and each time make it out better and better. but when it comes to sitting down, with no referance, nothing to look at, and im pulling ideas out of my own head and what i remember a shape is structured like, thats much more difficult to manifest than simply copying down contours and angles and lines. whats so hard is not seeing anything and still making the piece look realistic or anatomically correct. i mean i guess its easier to be able to draw a cartoon figure or something that isnt exactly realistic in comparison to still life.. but i guess art has a lot to do with relating with oneself and thats what draws us to specific expressions.
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BeholdAstarte Knowflake Posts: 400 From: las vegas, nevada, USA Registered: Dec 2009
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posted January 13, 2012 01:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by sc0rpioRising: Oh gosh.. the first one... that completely stunned me.. love it!
me 2! thats one of my favorite artists, she calls herself "milk" haha. she does a lot of really neat/cute artwork, i think shes really into photoshop right now too. pretty sure shes an aries IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 4354 From: Surfing Kite. Seriously. Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 13, 2012 01:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by BeholdAstarte: hmm alright, so you think its safe to look at something and then take it to the next level versus just painting still life? im just curious and trying to clarify your meaning haim just stating from my personal experience and what i find challenging. i can do still life like theres no tomorrow, one after the other and each time make it out better and better. but when it comes to sitting down, with no referance, nothing to look at, and im pulling ideas out of my own head and what i remember a shape is structured like, thats much more difficult to manifest than simply copying down contours and angles and lines. whats so hard is not seeing anything and still making the piece look realistic or anatomically correct. i mean i guess its easier to be able to draw a cartoon figure or something that isnt exactly realistic in comparison to still life.. but i guess art has a lot to do with relating with oneself and thats what draws us to specific expressions.
I am telling you ad long as you are talented is doesn't matter what you are looking at.
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Neptune'sDaughter Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Santa Monica, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2011
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posted January 13, 2012 06:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by anongrl10: I this thread! I used to be A LOT into surrealism. We're talking about being a total nut case about French Surrealism in all Arts. Poetry especially but also the Fine Arts. I'm an Aqua rising with Mars in Aqua trine Uranus in the 8th (and I was not into astrology back then so I had no clue). That kind of poetry spoke to me at the same time when everyone was like "what the hell is this about?" LOL Checking Kush's link and Oh.My.Gawd. melikey!!  Thanks for this thread!!!
Glad you enjoy it!! ------------------ "You may say that I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one..." IP: Logged |
Neptune'sDaughter Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Santa Monica, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2011
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posted January 13, 2012 06:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by BeholdAstarte: ... i like your sun, moon combo too,its really intriguin, maybe your mommas 12th house neptune is what influenced your sun? my dads a virgo and my moon is in virgo plus my louded 6th house and my moms a scorpio so i think that influenced my plutonian energy. they both also have aries moons, and a libra venus which i think contributes to my mars conjunction and libra sun.seeing parent child relations is interesting, there really seems to be a pattern at times.
Thank you! Yeah I think my mom DEFINITELY influenced my neptunian qualities. I have Neptune conj my MH which is another aspect of having a hard experience from the parent as a child. The 12th sun is evidence of a absentee father (true). Funny thing, I just found out that the man my mom TOLD me was my father was confirmed as the courts as NOT. He's a pisces sun, also. Strange, huh? Yes, I've had friends where we look through their entire extended families and they have common placements and moons. Heey, my mom is Virgo sun, Aries Moon, Libra Venus! ------------------ "You may say that I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one..." IP: Logged |
Neptune'sDaughter Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Santa Monica, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2011
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posted January 13, 2012 06:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by tautomer4314: I find it pretty easy to communicate art and understanding possible meanings behind it. Really, anything that can communicated I generally find pretty easy and enjoyable. I love talking with others, and this is just yet another thing that can be discussed.
hahaha I love how you can talk about talking to others. My 3rdH Gemi cusp with Chiron in Gemi gets this lol ------------------ "You may say that I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one..."
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Neptune'sDaughter Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Santa Monica, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2011
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posted January 13, 2012 06:14 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sand: [B]franceco clemente- venus in pisces, mercury in aries Love these!
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Neptune'sDaughter Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Santa Monica, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2011
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posted January 13, 2012 06:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Chironrising: I think every planet plays into it. I'm a venus in aquarius and I'm a mercury in sagitarius...I like progressive art from the past though because i'm a cap stellium - neptune jupiter sun...and the mercury in sagitarius has to make it mean something real...for example these drawings resonate with me, especially the first one.. http://youtu.be/YfbuP40bpiU In general I appreciate all art and see it as valuable... venus conjunct mc I guess... I also love the blues, and I also change alot regarding art and what i value...sentimental meaningful stuff always kick me in the nuggets, and leave me tearing.
I agree, I think whatever energies that a person is highly identifying with in their chart will show in the Art they are drawn to at the moment. I do think that Venus will still have her way even in these changing styles lol
I notice how alot of these pieces on your link have horses -mars in sag anyone? lol I also love how the way that people DISPLAY their Art is different! Some people have posted the Art directly, some have music videos, some Art set to music, some website galleries, etc. Really great, guys! My Aqua Venus loves it! ------------------ "You may say that I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one..." IP: Logged | |