posted January 16, 2012 10:12 PM            

I'm pretty sure venus square jupiter would cause this. I'm sure mars in aries would fuel that.
I'm curious is anyone else have a huge ego? Or some personality disorder?

posted January 16, 2012 10:21 PM            

If you have NPD, I wonder how your Sun, the EGO itself is aspected.

posted January 16, 2012 10:25 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Leos seem to have this innate characteristic, if I'm being honest. In my experience Leos with fire moons have HUGE egos. Leos with earth moons are snobs to everyone but tend to think low of themselves too. Leos with water moons are contradicting & sometimes even more selfish than Leos with fire moons. My point being is get to know a Leo. They are narcissism at it's finest. Yes, I know I will get flack for categorizing or something. I speak in very GENERAL terms. Don't get offended.

If you have NPD, I wonder how your Sun, the EGO itself is aspected.

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posted January 16, 2012 10:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
My dad is a leo, I seriously wonder if he has npd too. I have sun square jupiter which could explain why I'm mistrusting.
I have sun conjunct venus, and sun conjunct mercury.

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I have Sun conj. Venus and conj. Mercury too. I'm probably really vain but I don't think I'd be narcissistic. Then again I also have Sun sq. and Merc. sq. Neptune and I've found that's probably why I have trouble trusting my own judgment over and over again. I don't see myself clearly.

Sun square Jupiter, well Jupiter is all about expansion so I'm SURE that has something to do with it. I'm still pinning down how squares work. When looking for them in the personality I swear I've heard that squares are what's more prevalent in the personality than trines or sextiles. (Sextiles being an on/off switch, trines being natural and you don't even have to think about it. Conjunctions are a... push/pull? Idk, still figuring that out too.)

posted January 16, 2012 10:33 PM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
The NPD people I have come across were not Leos. Hell, they hardly had fire in their charts.
Sometimes NPD manifests from low self esteem and they do things to overcompensate. Alot of water sign men have huge NPD tendencies.

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posted January 16, 2012 10:37 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I have Sun conj. Venus and conj. Mercury too. I'm probably really vain but I don't think I'd be narcissistic. Then again I also have Sun sq. and Merc. sq. Neptune and I've found that's probably why I have trouble trusting my own judgment over and over again. I don't see myself clearly.

Sun square Jupiter, well Jupiter is all about expansion so I'm SURE that has something to do with it. I'm still pinning down how squares work. When looking for them in the personality I swear I've heard that squares are what's more prevalent in the personality than trines or sextiles. (Sextiles being an on/off switch, trines being natural and you don't even have to think about it. Conjunctions are a... push/pull? Idk, still figuring that out too.)

Jupiter wouldn't have to do with trust I don't think... if you're mistrusting I would look at Saturn or Neptune but that's just my amateur opinion.

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posted January 16, 2012 10:46 PM            

I just knew Leo was going to be all over this thread....
I have 4 planets in Leo.. Im not narcissist.. But I admit I have a HUGE HUGE ego....

The way my ego manifest is not thinking Im the best at anything or everything..

Its more.. I can do anything that I set my mind out to do.... Which sometimes gets me into a wee bit of trouble

posted January 16, 2012 10:47 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I have Sun conj. Venus and conj. Mercury too. I'm probably really vain but I don't think I'd be narcissistic. Then again I also have Sun sq. and Merc. sq. Neptune and I've found that's probably why I have trouble trusting my own judgment over and over again. I don't see myself clearly.
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posted January 16, 2012 10:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
Well because jupiter is badly aspect which makes sense, I'm very generous but I tend to mistrust other peoples intentions Also thats what I read of descriptions for this aspect. I don't think its necessarily a bad thing, thats probably why I'm never taken advantage of.

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I'm the same way. I get taken advantage of but it doesn't affect me the same way. I expect people to be s....y because a lot of them are selfish.

posted January 16, 2012 10:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
LOL.....

I just knew Leo was going to be all over this thread....
I have 4 planets in Leo.. Im not narcissist.. But I admit I have a HUGE HUGE ego....

The way my ego manifest is not thinking Im the best at anything or everything..

Its more.. I can do anything that I set my mind out to do.... Which sometimes gets me into a wee bit of trouble

My Leo is in H6 and I have a nice sextile to Saturn which alters my Leo persona... Even though its inside me.. I dont express it much to people...
If that makes sense.

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What a blessing that Saturn aspect is. Saturn = control, right? You're able to control your ego or contain it?

posted January 16, 2012 10:56 PM            

Its more internal....

I like to shine, but I dont like being starred at by a bunch of people... I could never be an actress or on stage...
I prefer to shine one on one, or in very small groups with people I am comfortable around.

posted January 16, 2012 11:03 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I'm the same way. I get taken advantage of but it doesn't affect me the same way. I expect people to be s....y because a lot of them are selfish.

What does it take to be classified as having NPD? I swear this guy I knew had it. He was a Leo sun, Sag moon, Mercury in Cancer (so anytime feelings were involved, it was obviously HIS feelings) Venus in Leo, Mars in Leo, Saturn in Sagittarius, Uranus in Sagittarius and MAYBE Neptune in Capricorn? He also had Capricorn rising but good luck with all that fire in there. I swear that anything that wasn't about HIM just glazed right over his head. Didn't phase him, didn't touch or move him emotionally, nothing. NO empathy, whatsoever. It was foreign. Sure, it ****** me off but as time has gone on and I've parted ways with him it just amazes me.

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posted January 16, 2012 11:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
In general most of us need a lot of attention. Even if its wrong kind of attention. I'm not overly dramatic in public. So the way I like to get attention is by my appearance or the way I dress. I'll usually spend most of my OWN money on clothes. Most of this is subconscious were not sitting their plotting all of this. Some people may not even realize they are doing. Because I am aware of my disorder I can control myself. we can't handle criticisms. I'm in art school so I grind my teeth every time we have critiques. Their are tons of symtoms. Some people have all the them or just extremes of a few symtoms. I can be an ass, some people with Npd can be huuuugggggeeee dicks.

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posted January 16, 2012 11:33 PM            

ETA: I have it exactly conjunct my Sun and Moon in Scorpio and I also have a Mars in Aries but I have never had a narcissistic personality though that could be attributed to the Saturn square to Mars, both being critical planets

posted January 16, 2012 11:34 PM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Alot of water sign men have huge NPD tendencies.

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posted January 16, 2012 11:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Frozen Queen:
For the OP and everybody else, there is also an asteroid NARCISSUS (37117) and you can use astro.com to see where it falls in your chart. Like every astrological entity it has a polarity of meanings: the positive defining a healthy dose of self-love and appreciation for oneself, the negative describing the ego-maniacal manipulation and emotional blackmail perpetrated by those with a narcissistic personality disorder.

ETA: I have it exactly conjunct my Sun and Moon in Scorpio and I also have a Mars in Aries but I have never had a narcissistic personality though that could be attributed to the Saturn square to Mars, both being critical planets

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posted January 16, 2012 11:55 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Lol, well he couldn't handle criticism. To the point where I started believing all of our problems was really my fault (not true.) And he would get my attention by picking fights with me I guess. He seemed to thrive on drama even as much as he "claimed" he hated it, it just always followed him around... like a cloud. Subconscious... I find a lot of Sag mooners do subconscious things and don't realize it. I'm glad you're educated though, and knowledgeable. What else would one expect from a Gemini though.

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posted January 17, 2012 12:00 AM            

At age 9 my parents divorced, resulting in my father's full commitment to church and my mother's full commitment to her lover (who was only 10 years older than me and percieved my mothers attention to me as a threat). Most of my youth was spent in complete confusion. I dissasociated, created personas, and tried to live up to the foundation my parents laid for me. It actually took many years, a lot of drugs, and eventually physical death to comprehend my ego as a facet of self instead of "the quintessential expression of self". Even after realizing that the Mask can be removed, I struggled with the resulting vulnerability. The tender empathy I swam in as a kid, never went away, it just developed a nice thick scab (which was torn off every time I stepped away from the ego).

Looong story short (too late), I learned that ego is useful. It can exist as a tool for self-awareness, transformation, and refinement; an indicator of our habitual energies. I used to believe that ego was "bad", but I was fortunate to have a very wise Leo set me straight. She taught me that ego is a tool, like your hand. You know the hand does not make up the whole of you, and even if your hand were diseased, you would try to heal it before resolving to cut it off. The same can be said for the ego, as "egolessness" in the world is like walking in space with no spacesuit... not wise. Just don't forget to take the suit off when you get back home.

The Juicy ego planets I can think of in my chart are:

Pluto conjunct NN
opposed ASC

ASC Aries:
Ruled by Mars Leo
Ruled by Sun Sagittarius

Mars Leo:
Trine its Ruler Sun Sagittarius, by exact degree (partile).
sextile Pluto

posted January 17, 2012 12:07 AM            

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I learned that ego is useful. It can exist as a tool for self-awareness, transformation, and refinement; an indicator of our habitual energies. I used to believe that ego was "bad", but I was fortunate to have a very wise Leo set me straight. She taught me that ego is a tool, like your hand. You know the hand does not make up the whole of you, and even if your hand were diseased, you would try to heal it before resolving to cut it off. The same can be said for the ego, as "egolessness" in the world is like walking in space with no spacesuit... not wise. Just don't forget to take the suit off when you get back home.

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That's beautiful, Xiiro.

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