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mintgirl123
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posted January 18, 2012 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces is mutable is kinda wishy washy in general.

Confused, it's more a Venus in Gem guys tendency to juggle girls. I can't say all of them do, but alot of them can lead double lives with ease. Also what's your asc? Do you have a fixed or a more 'loyal' 7th house cusp sign? Do you have your venus aspecting saturn? Or have saturn aspects to your main planets?

Oh and Neptune's daugher ^ I think you have to look at those Virgo women's venus and mars too though.
And also your mars is in Taurus! Taurus is a way more loyal sign than gem anyway. Even if it's in detriment, it's still Taurus. Taurus just ooze stability and they're more trustworthy on average too.

Though at the end of the day it's all about one's integrity and morals. You can have a chart more prone to cheating, but you can choose to be loyal. Being faithful is a choice afterall.

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posted January 18, 2012 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:

Oh and Neptune's daugher ^ I think you have to look at those Virgo women's venus and mars too though.

Though at the end of the day it's all about one's integrity and morals. You can have a chart more prone to cheating, but you can choose to be loyal. Being faithful is a choice afterall.


I concur!

I know my mom's venus is in libra in the first -according to the 'man-cheater rules' this would indicate cheating lol

In later years she was completely faithful to my knowledge though (even when with cheaters) One of those serial cheaters/womanizers (he is DEF both) was a Taurus but I don't know his chart info.

So, yes, definitely a choice!

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mintgirl123
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posted January 18, 2012 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a venus in libra lol and in my whole chart, I only have my north node in aquarius and scorpio in pluto, everything else is cardinal or mutable (virgo sun + mars). Sure I like change, but I like the comfort of having a close bond with one person and having the relationship be sacred and close. I just don't understand how some people can juggle two or three people at once! I mean I just can't fathom it. The guilt would screw me over for one thing!

A few days ago I read about this guy who was going out with two girls, both for 3 years =/. And all through his thread, his posts were all about how he's feeling and not once did he talk about or consider both the womens feelings.

I mean seriously. How screwed up is that. I hope those girls don't do anything to hurt themselves when they eventually find out =(.

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posted January 18, 2012 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
alot of women on here must have been finding the wrong men,because not all men cheat,i havent cheated and dont plan on it,i think its stupid,but maybe thats because my fixed placements,aqua sun,aqua ascendant,taurus moon.

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posted January 18, 2012 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one mentioned Neptune?

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posted January 18, 2012 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireWire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
You dont have to be sorry LOL.....but any statement that involves the word ALL is usually not correct. They teach you that in school when you are preparing to take the SATs.

I just laughed so loudly at this!

I'm reusing this one--perfect!

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posted January 18, 2012 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OHHH finally a GUY speaks up who doesn't cheat lmao

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posted January 18, 2012 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@MC2012, haha what is that supposed to mean? and yes i said it,i do not cheat, i think it is stupid. and strange thing i have been cheated on twice by women,can i assume all women cheat then? no! you cant generalize,i think men and women cheat equally,its just men are less likely to air their their dirty laundry,so you dont hear about it as much

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posted January 18, 2012 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
No one mentioned Neptune?

haha it's in one of the links I posted

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posted January 18, 2012 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
@MC2012, haha what is that supposed to mean? and yes i said it,i do not cheat, i think it is stupid. and strange thing i have been cheated on twice by women,can i assume all women cheat then? no! you cant generalize,i think men and women cheat equally,its just men are less likely to air their their dirty laundry,so you dont hear about it as much

LOL I know what you're saying hahaha It was actually just a joke and it turned into this big thing! I really don't think ALL guys cheat hahaha

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posted January 18, 2012 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@mc2012 haha my bad,i took it seriously because there are alot of women these days who really do think that way unfortunately,and it undermines all their relationships with men

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posted January 18, 2012 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Women cheat alot too. It's actually kinda sad that there's only a considerably small percentage of men and women that are really loyal partners.

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posted January 18, 2012 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
No one mentioned Neptune?

Lol. Care to add onto that?

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posted January 18, 2012 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@mintgirl123, yes it is,i wish people were more honest

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posted January 18, 2012 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
@mc2012 haha my bad,i took it seriously because there are alot of women these days who really do think that way unfortunately,and it undermines all their relationships with men

That's true. I have a friend who's only had one serious boyfriend and she judges all men from that one experience. It's hard trying to tell her that if she just let go of something that happened years ago she might find someone who would make her happy.

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posted January 18, 2012 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah:
Lol. Care to add onto that?

In this kind of inquiry,Neptune is culprit no.1,especially Mars sq Neptune.

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posted January 18, 2012 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for acousticbob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MC2012:
ALL men cheat if a woman is willing to sleep with them

I disagree.. I'm sorry you feel that way..

edit!
I've read the whole thread now! lol

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posted January 18, 2012 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL

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posted January 18, 2012 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would never cheat on anyone. I would break up with that person if I was bored.

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posted January 18, 2012 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
I would never cheat on anyone. I would break up with that person if I was bored.

same here cheaters suck

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posted January 18, 2012 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
No one mentioned Neptune?

Mars sq Neptune?

Edit, I added this post before I saw you mention the square. We're on the same page with this one.

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posted January 18, 2012 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
I would never cheat on anyone. I would break up with that person if I was bored.

Some people cheat just cos they can, or due to insecurities. Sometimes it's not even boredom.

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posted January 18, 2012 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Some people cheat just cos they can, or due to insecurities. Sometimes it's not even boredom.

Thats interesting. I've never had to deal with cheaters so I wouldn't know. I'm usually the insecure person in a relationship. I don't like the player types.

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posted January 18, 2012 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Neptune'sDaughter:
This was a study of 94 'known'(?) cheaters:
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/signs-of-infidelity.html

I think the problem with identifying cheating aspects in the natal is that you have to KNOW the person cheated in the first place. MEANING, people that are actually 'good' at it and not sloppy aren't caught and so their info is actually skewing the whole thing.

It is easier for fire signs to be LABELED as cheaters because they are action oriented and more grandiose and 'who cares' in there expression. However, I find that like, water sign women can be even more calculated, uncaring, and malicious in their cheating -they just don't get CAUGHT. They that I've seen do this also greatly excuse themselves by placing some sort of blame on the man. Same as cheating men do. So that was just a small example of how either sex and any sign can do it but just play it out different.

I am a water sign female with an air venus and water merc and have never cheated and don't believe I EVER will. I hear that air venus and soft mercs are spose to be cheaters, for me nope. Also, I have venus square mars. Still nope lol. My mars is in detriment in taurus which I spose makes it 'weak' nope, nope lol. My moon, venus, and mars are in fixed signs though.

I know a gemini venus with a cancer mars and he really is in love with two women at the same time. Myself and his gf. He's in another country so he's somewhat safe from trying to act on it. The thing is he is a Cancer/Leo Sun and a Leo Merc and his home-y, warm personality just plays out as him being super affectionate. I keep him in check when he needs it here and there and he is open with his fondness which I guess takes away from any 'affair' like feelings that would be there if say his merc was a scorp merc or something. Everyone just kind of knows he's this ball of homemaker sunshine that just can't seem to help being fond of more than one person. There is nothing 'threatening' in the way he comes off. If he had a Sag sun, though, you can gurantee he'd probably have everyone hating him even if he hadn't acted on it still. I think that is the nature of having alot of direct fire energy in your chart -people FEEL/THINK you will act on it- even if you don't hence it is more 'threatening' and you get the 'label' lol

I have actually had quite a few fire sign guys state that they started playing the field because no matter how faithful they were people labeled them as 'man-****** ', 'cheaters', etc. So (as a Sag put it) "I don't know why girls would always say that about me. 'Oh, you're a man-***** !' I got tired of it. I was like f!ck it! Everyone thinks I'm that way and says it about me anyways, I might as well have some fun and live my life."

Not saying all men/fire signs, etc. are going that route. I'm just an undercurrent-type person and think that it's all linked together: the aspects, the chart, how one feels about themselves, how others view/box them in, etc.

I also think it is hard to pin point certain things because people cheat for different reasons: status, romance, emotional support, fun.. I guess that is the thing, huh? To hope there is a magic give away that is a sure sign that a person will cheat regardless of the motive lol But I really think motives are where it all begins and is triggered.

Also, do you see a difference between 'Womanizers' and 'Cheaters'? Not to split hairs but my Scorpmoon does. I think that one can be one without the other and thus have different signifiers in the natal. I've seen men that are 'faithful' in each particular relationship they are in but are still very much 'womanizers' in that they are woman users and still go through the relationships rather quickly. I have also seen male cheaters that are not womanizers at all but that just have other issues that make them self-destruct their relationships. Do you make this same distinction?

Finally, I'm not condoning any cheating -I'm LOATHE for it. It's just that my scorpmoon sits in my 7th house cusped in Libra lol

More Linkage:

http://sasstrology.com/2009/03/the-astrology-of-cheating-natal-chart-factors.html

Hmm outer planest in the 5th, 7th, and 8th would make attraction to anyone who has that placement? which would equal an entire generation?? LOL

We're not off the hook ladies lol:
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/signs-of-cheating.html

*Ok it's sad but most astro website ALL use the first link that I posted for their 'info' -meaning all of (male)humanity is being judged off of 94 natal charts! And ladies, our judgement comes from only 36! (supporting the theory that women are better at not getting caught?.. lol)


I think a lot of this makes sense, but I'm not buying into the Sun sign generalization. Also, I don't know why Aquarius keeps getting a bad rep as the sign of a cheater. I get that being ruled by Uranus it's necessary for constant stimulation, but wouldn't that just make the guy more inclined to be attracted to drama queens?


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posted January 18, 2012 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
None of the things listed for unfaithful women on CosmiTech rings true to me, especially the Moon in Aries. My Moon is in Aries and I have never cheated, nor will I ever. It kind of feels like they just gave up on women. Lol. Wouldn't a woman with Mars in Capricorn want stability?

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