posted January 18, 2012 01:15 PM            

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Originally posted by MC2012:
ALL men cheat if a woman is willing to sleep with them

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posted January 18, 2012 01:18 PM            

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Originally posted by mockingbird:
*cough*BS*cough*

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posted January 18, 2012 01:55 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
a weak mars for the cheating?

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As in sign or aspects?

posted January 18, 2012 02:29 PM            

A man I know who cheats has Mars in Aries so it may make them act upon it more but he's also Taurus sun but he still does it.

Gemini sun men too because they can be more detached emotionally but then my grandmother was a gemini sun and she was completely faithful to my grandfather even when he was cheating on her.

posted January 18, 2012 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by MC2012:
ALL men cheat if a woman is willing to sleep with them

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posted January 18, 2012 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Marina123:
I have heard of soft aspects of venus/mars to uranus. Someone I know who had a tendency to "want affairs" in him seems to have this. However, it depends on choice also and how experienced and wise person is to make the right choices.

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I thought it would be the hard aspects between Venus and Uranus that would make someone likely to cheat; maybe more likely the closer the aspect is to being exact. But I have the square and it only makes me want to leave possessive relationships or run from someone who acts like they want to own me.

posted January 18, 2012 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
You cannot generalize just by sun sign. Personal will power trumps everything. Of course, there may be a slightly higher incidence of cheating for a particular sign, but all signs are capable of cheating and all signs are capable of being faithful and loyal.

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posted January 18, 2012 03:13 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
You cannot generalize just by sun sign. Personal will power trumps everything. Of course, there may be a slightly higher incidence of cheating for a particular sign, but all signs are capable of cheating and all signs are capable of being faithful and loyal.

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posted January 18, 2012 03:14 PM            

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Originally posted by MC2012:
Sorry you disagree lol

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posted January 18, 2012 03:18 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
You dont have to be sorry LOL.....but any statement that involves the word ALL is usually not correct. They teach you that in school when you are preparing to take the SATs.

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posted January 18, 2012 03:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Delilah:
I thought it would be the hard aspects between Venus and Uranus that would make someone likely to cheat; maybe more likely the closer the aspect is to being exact. But I have the square and it only makes me want to leave possessive relationships or run from someone who acts like they want to own me.

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posted January 18, 2012 04:07 PM            

For Venus, I would be wary of Venus in Gemini, Aries and Pisces.

For Mars, it's Mars in Gem, Libra, Pisces and Sag that would make me alittle uneasy.

It's weird how Virgo is a mutable but is generally alot more faithful than most of the other mutable signs. I've found that libra can be loyal if accompanied by an earth mars or scorpio mars. BUT if it's like Venus in Gem, Mars in Libra, the person is pretty much guaranteed to cheat? Gem and Libra aren't great together in a natal chart it seems, when it comes to commitment or stability.

posted January 18, 2012 04:30 PM            

I think the problem with identifying cheating aspects in the natal is that you have to KNOW the person cheated in the first place. MEANING, people that are actually 'good' at it and not sloppy aren't caught and so their info is actually skewing the whole thing.

It is easier for fire signs to be LABELED as cheaters because they are action oriented and more grandiose and 'who cares' in there expression. However, I find that like, water sign women can be even more calculated, uncaring, and malicious in their cheating -they just don't get CAUGHT. They that I've seen do this also greatly excuse themselves by placing some sort of blame on the man. Same as cheating men do. So that was just a small example of how either sex and any sign can do it but just play it out different.

I am a water sign female with an air venus and water merc and have never cheated and don't believe I EVER will. I hear that air venus and soft mercs are spose to be cheaters, for me nope. Also, I have venus square mars. Still nope lol. My mars is in detriment in taurus which I spose makes it 'weak' nope, nope lol. My moon, venus, and mars are in fixed signs though.

I know a gemini venus with a cancer mars and he really is in love with two women at the same time. Myself and his gf. He's in another country so he's somewhat safe from trying to act on it. The thing is he is a Cancer/Leo Sun and a Leo Merc and his home-y, warm personality just plays out as him being super affectionate. I keep him in check when he needs it here and there and he is open with his fondness which I guess takes away from any 'affair' like feelings that would be there if say his merc was a scorp merc or something. Everyone just kind of knows he's this ball of homemaker sunshine that just can't seem to help being fond of more than one person. There is nothing 'threatening' in the way he comes off. If he had a Sag sun, though, you can gurantee he'd probably have everyone hating him even if he hadn't acted on it still. I think that is the nature of having alot of direct fire energy in your chart -people FEEL/THINK you will act on it- even if you don't hence it is more 'threatening' and you get the 'label' lol

I have actually had quite a few fire sign guys state that they started playing the field because no matter how faithful they were people labeled them as 'man-****** ', 'cheaters', etc. So (as a Sag put it) "I don't know why girls would always say that about me. 'Oh, you're a man-***** !' I got tired of it. I was like f!ck it! Everyone thinks I'm that way and says it about me anyways, I might as well have some fun and live my life."

Not saying all men/fire signs, etc. are going that route. I'm just an undercurrent-type person and think that it's all linked together: the aspects, the chart, how one feels about themselves, how others view/box them in, etc.

I also think it is hard to pin point certain things because people cheat for different reasons: status, romance, emotional support, fun.. I guess that is the thing, huh? To hope there is a magic give away that is a sure sign that a person will cheat regardless of the motive lol But I really think motives are where it all begins and is triggered.

Also, do you see a difference between 'Womanizers' and 'Cheaters'? Not to split hairs but my Scorpmoon does. I think that one can be one without the other and thus have different signifiers in the natal. I've seen men that are 'faithful' in each particular relationship they are in but are still very much 'womanizers' in that they are woman users and still go through the relationships rather quickly. I have also seen male cheaters that are not womanizers at all but that just have other issues that make them self-destruct their relationships. Do you make this same distinction?

Finally, I'm not condoning any cheating -I'm LOATHE for it. It's just that my scorpmoon sits in my 7th house cusped in Libra lol

More Linkage:

http://sasstrology.com/2009/03/the-astrology-of-cheating-natal-chart-factors.html

Hmm outer planest in the 5th, 7th, and 8th would make attraction to anyone who has that placement? which would equal an entire generation?? LOL

We're not off the hook ladies lol:
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/signs-of-cheating.html

*Ok it's sad but most astro website ALL use the first link that I posted for their 'info' -meaning all of (male)humanity is being judged off of 94 natal charts! And ladies, our judgement comes from only 36! (supporting the theory that women are better at not getting caught?.. lol)

posted January 18, 2012 04:46 PM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Soft Uranus aspects only causes one to want space and a non-smothering relationship. It doesn't cause somebody to cheat.

For Venus, I would be wary of Venus in Gemini, Aries and Pisces.

For Mars, it's Mars in Gem, Libra, Pisces and Sag that would make me alittle uneasy.

It's weird how Virgo is a mutable but is generally alot more faithful than most of the other mutable signs. I've found that libra can be loyal if accompanied by an earth mars or scorpio mars. BUT if it's like Venus in Gem, Mars in Libra, the person is pretty much guaranteed to cheat? Gem and Libra aren't great together in a natal chart it seems, when it comes to commitment or stability.

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posted January 18, 2012 04:51 PM            

Yeah this stuff is DEF not concrete. And Venus in Pisces cheater as a rule?? It's EXALTED right? Should be more faithful 'as a rule'. Then again I guess cheaters break rules lol

Edit: hmm all of those Virgos that I know their moons are Fire Sign Moons.. just fyi