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Topic: How would Venus in the 12th find love?
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amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 4149 From: Miami Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 08:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lioness: I have said before, and Ill say it again.. I wonder if we "really" dont marry our true love... We marry what fits our 7th??? Do we marry for our 7th, and not our love..
I think you are on to something....companionship is 7th house or 7th house ruler and so what would be the big love?? 12th house? or 12th house ruler?? IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 7028 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted January 23, 2012 08:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by amelia28: I think you are on to something....companionship is 7th house and so what would be the big love?? 12th house? or 12th house ruler??
OMG..... Maybe you really have me thinking about that one!!!! WOW!! maybeee... IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 7206 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 08:27 PM
I don't understand the concept about not marrying for love. I have Pluto and Uranus in my 7th House. And what I truly wanted behind every house at that time were dollar bills. Lots of dollar bills. Don't blame me. I'm an Earth sign. Was dating for fun. And pleasure. Lots of pleasure. And then BAM. Like a tornado. That was that. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 4149 From: Miami Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 09:00 PM
Lioness......playing around with our new theory.Husband's ruler of his 12th is venus and his venus conjuncts my venus and mars. My 12th house ruler is pluto which sextiles his venus by 3 orbs. Ex and I: ruler of my 12th is pluto and it conjuncts his venus but by 7 orbs. For Ex ruler of his 12th is mercury which conjuncts my saturn by 3 orbs (Karmic soulmate relationship). With aqua friend ruler of his 12th is jupiter which opposes my moon and conjuncts my sun. My 12th house ruler pluto sextiles exact his venus in sag. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 4149 From: Miami Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 09:02 PM
I bet that having eachother's 12th house rulers conjuncting exact or tightly must feel great! Big love type of manifestation. IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 7028 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted January 23, 2012 09:08 PM
Humm.. do you feel your husband is the love of your life?? Maybe if they fit both your h12 and H7.. you will actually marry your love.. I have aqua rules my 12th, which Uranus is in my 7th...
Fishy he's sun and mercury,and mars were in my 12th. Mercury rules my h7.. but IDK if its love... IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 4149 From: Miami Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 09:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lioness: Humm.. do you feel your husband is the love of your life?? Maybe if they fit both your h12 and H7.. you will actually marry your love.. -I love him very much but he is not my twin soul/big love...he is my companion soulmate who I have karma to work out with in this life.I have aqua rules my 12th, which Uranus is in my 7th... -so you might actually marry your big love. In my case ruler of my 12th is pluto and pluto falls in the 11th so big love and I will be friends and lovers perhaps but won't marry. Fishy he's sun and mercury were in my 12th. Mercury rules my h7.. but IDK if its love... What is the ruler of his 12th? and what aspects is the ruler of his 12th making to your planets/luminaries and vice versa?
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 7028 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted January 23, 2012 09:17 PM
Hard to find you reply.. but I see it now.. Guess that goes along with marrying for your H7.IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 4149 From: Miami Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 10:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lioness: Humm.. do you feel your husband is the love of your life?? Maybe if they fit both your h12 and H7.. you will actually marry your love..
well he is a soulmate although not twin soul and my 12th house ruler pluto conjuncts tightly by 3 orbs but out of sign his mercury in scorpio and my 7th house ruler is mercury. I just know I plan to pay more attention to ruler of the 12th in synastry when looking for soulmate connections and check out aspects that ruler of the 12th is doing natally so see if this person will marry his or big love and just look at 7th house ruler to see if person will marry or not. Like my 12th house ruler natally says that my big love will stay as an intense friendship but since pluto sextiles ruler of my 5th my big love will be a friend and lover in this life..... but my 7th house ruler is part of a tsquare and the midpoint of the opposition in this tsquare conjuncts exact my NN in the 7th so I see that I am fated to work out karma with someone I marry. Ruler of the 12th conjunct or aspecting ruler of the 7th will be marrying your big love in natal I would think yes, I dont have that, neither does my friend or my ex and husband has a sextile between the two and he sees me as his big love but I think that is more that he is the type of guy that companionship is more than enough to keep him happy, he doesnt need the big love. Sexitle is a soft aspect though....I would think a tight conjunction between 7th house ruler and 12th house ruler means you will find your big love and actually marry them in this life. Fun theories 
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 7028 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted January 23, 2012 10:19 PM
I checked my own chart.. Aqua is my 12th cusp.. Not sure If I use Saturn (traditional) or Uranus.. Mercury rules my 7th.. I have a tight sextile with Uranus/Mercury I also have a tight sextile with Saturn/Mercury Uranus is in my H7th, Saturn on H3/H4 cusp. Ruler of H7 in H6... Also my saturn is in gem, which still rules mercury.. Does this point to work?? Cuz IDK if I can take that right now!  IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 7028 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted January 23, 2012 10:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: I don't understand the concept about not marrying for love. I have Pluto and Uranus in my 7th House. And what I truly wanted behind every house at that time were dollar bills. Lots of dollar bills. Don't blame me. I'm an Earth sign. Was dating for fun. And pleasure. Lots of pleasure. And then BAM. Like a tornado. That was that.
I dont mean it by you dont love care for the person... I mean it as this person is not your one true love... The greatest love... But of course that would not apply to everyone.. If that person is, then you are Lucky and congrats.. But many people, marry for the wrong reasons... Or before they are really sure..
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YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 7206 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 10:33 PM
Lioness,There's the law of large numbers, right? How would I know for sure unless I dated about 100,000 women? What I do know that I did date a reasonably high number of women and my wife is whom I believe to be the most compatible with my dreams and ambitions. I love her a damn hell of a lot, more than any woman I have met. Doesn't mean that I cannot possibly love any other woman more, but my wife is whom I chose to marry, and so I made my decision. How is it possible to say definitively anybody is the "best," bar none? I certainly don't feel that I'm the very best my wife could have. Being a Leo, she could use the combo of a fashion designer, an artist, a male porn star, an Arab oil sheik, etc. lol We chose each other and in a sense, we are "stuck" whether we like it or not. Nice to be "stuck" in love though. IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 7028 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted January 23, 2012 10:35 PM
I think you would know,if that person "wasnt" your one true love.. I was married 13 years.. I loved him and cared for him.. But he wasnt my TRUE LOVE... If that makes any sense at all... IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 7206 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 11:14 PM
Well, I'll take your word. But I find it a bit tragic that you find out only after a while into the marriage.IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 4149 From: Miami Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 24, 2012 01:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lioness: I checked my own chart.. Aqua is my 12th cusp.. Not sure If I use Saturn (traditional) or Uranus.. Mercury rules my 7th.. I have a tight sextile with Uranus/Mercury I also have a tight sextile with Saturn/Mercury Uranus is in my H7th, Saturn on H3/H4 cusp. Ruler of H7 in H6... Also my saturn is in gem, which still rules mercury.. Does this point to work?? Cuz IDK if I can take that right now! 
then you are like my husband you have a sextile between the 7th ruler and 12th ruler...I think that means that if you really desire that big love that you can experience it but since uranus is in the 7th you might run from it bc you dont feel comfortable with the intensity that comes along meeting a twin soul...husband is similar to you I feel he has that sextile between 12th ruler and 7th ruler but he has venus square uranus so intensity that would come along meeting his twin soul is something I feel he is not even open to it or ready for it....he is ready for a companion soulmate but not a twin soul....so you have to ask yourself if you are ready for a companion soulmate or a twin soul? if you are ready for a twin soul then it could happen in this life but if not you will not recognize it or walk from it. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 4149 From: Miami Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 24, 2012 01:06 AM
pluto is my 12th house ruler and it has a bunch of nice soft aspects to other planets but it does have one conjunction and is to saturn which means I would say an important karmic soulmate relationship in this life....my ex is my karmic soulmate relationship represented by that pluto conjunct saturn...interestingly ruler of his 12th conjuncts my saturn..Husband is who is my companion soulmate who is helping me with my Northnode lessons and ruler of the 7th tsquare and learn the lessons involving that tsquare and that northnode. If I meet my twinsoul it will stay on a friendship level for this lifetime. I think the most promising aspect to indicate that you will marry your twin soul is a tight conjunction between 7th house ruler and 12th house ruler. A sextile is like it may or may not happen but is up to you, probably same goes for a trine. Squares and oppositions is like obstacles will have to be overcome and so probably will not happen in this life and conjunction is like it will happen. Just theories  IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 24, 2012 04:41 AM
Okay, considering my husband and I actually had a conversation which resulted in us both realising we haven't been in love with each other for several months, and that -my- love of this life - the one who somehow matters above all and has always been there, for years - is my twin / muse / cowriter-costar. Sigh. Glad to have THAT said. We married for practical reasons. We still were in love. I adored him. We still do love each other; but differently. I wonder ... there's this theory. When you finally connect with your twin, your companion can't compare any longer - and it hits you like lightning. Just ... BAM. Suddenly so clear. Let's see. We have a weird aspect. His R7 is Uranus in Libra dead on conjunct my Sun, in the 2H. I joked and said, 'Great. You've got a frickin' divorce lawyer managing your marital affairs.' His first wife actually IS Ione, too! My 7R is Neptune in my 4H. 20' Sag. Super loose conjunction to his Moon. My 12R, however, is my Sun in 19' Libra conjunct Pluto in my 2H. I certainly feel more bonded with intense, creative, karmic relationships than anything else. His 12R is his Moon, 10' Sag, exactly quincunx his Cancer Venus. My twin's 12R's Jupiter in Cap is in his 12H and in 1.5' orb square my Sun. Huh. No idea. I guess because his 12R so closely aspects mine (Sun in 2H), it's significant, huh? His 12R exactly quincunxes my NNode (in my 12H, and his 7H) and semisextiles my SNode. Huh. It's also conjunct my Amor which is RIGHT on his ASC, about 2' orb. So. Sun's the indicator or significator of the 'big love of my life' ? Intriguing. Might have some merit. Fact my husband's Uranus is there is unusual. Interesting to me. I DO love him. I just ... wish someone really compared to my twin. Well, that he did. That he really could make me THAT happy. Ah, well. We're responsible adults who do love each other and will keep our families intact. We'll do the best we can.
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sc0rpioRising Knowflake Posts: 1525 From: somewhere! Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 24, 2012 05:10 AM
WOW! This has beomce a totally new thread! lol, and a very interesting one indeed! any advice on what I can do for my friend? (she ends up dating married men....i think she just takes any attention she gets...which shows lack of self worth.. although she Acts very confident!)And ok.. I have venus in the 5th house...Its ruled by Aries... So aries is rules by Mars, my Mars is in Gemini in the 7th house...so what does that become of the house rulers? I always always get confused with this! IP: Logged |
Capriquarius unregistered
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posted January 24, 2012 05:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by sc0rpioRising: WOW! This has beomce a totally new thread! lol, and a very interesting one indeed! any advice on what I can do for my friend? (she ends up dating married men....i think she just takes any attention she gets...which shows lack of self worth.. although she Acts very confident!)And ok.. I have venus in the 5th house...Its ruled by Aries... So aries is rules by Mars, my Mars is in Gemini in the 7th house...so what does that become of the house rulers? I always always get confused with this!
Are the wives of these guys aware of your friend dating their husbands?!! House rulers confuse the bejeezus outta me too....sowwie IP: Logged |
sc0rpioRising Knowflake Posts: 1525 From: somewhere! Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 24, 2012 05:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by Capriquarius: Are the wives of these guys aware of your friend dating their husbands?!!House rulers confuse the bejeezus outta me too....sowwie
Lol...bejeeszus.. yeh i think I have it right, then I over analyse, then I do it again, which is completely different from the 1st time! gosh head is hurting now! lol.. ummm....they were all 'separated' at the time. She never admits its her, its always 'some girl she knows'.... IP: Logged |
pandacake Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 24, 2012 05:42 AM
I know someone who's like: "They are seperating anyway." "They don't fit anyway." Seems that if she can "steal" a married man, it's victory for her. *shudder* She has no 12th house placements though.Edit: Trying to look from the other side, it takes two to cheat. She did have a very troublesome childhood, making her very insecure. And she does long for something stable and secure only it just always happens to be in the wrong places ... IP: Logged |
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posted January 24, 2012 05:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by sc0rpioRising: Lol...bejeeszus.. yeh i think I have it right, then I over analyse, then I do it again, which is completely different from the 1st time! gosh head is hurting now! lol.. ummm....they were all 'separated' at the time. She never admits its her, its always 'some girl she knows'....
Well as long as they're not married... IP: Logged |
Dreamy_AriesGirl Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 24, 2012 06:17 AM
I do think that not everyone marry their True Love... I believe in reincarnation, so i think it all depends on what roles we choose to play in a particular life. Our True Love can be our partner, but also our parent, children, a big love, friend etc. It depends on the current lessons we chose to learn.
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RegardesPlatero Knowflake Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted January 24, 2012 07:03 AM
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Dreamy_AriesGirl Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 24, 2012 07:14 AM
quote: Fate can bring people together, but the two people still have to put in the effort and take it upon themselves to keep the spark alive, to continue to honor each other, and to act in ways that are conducive to a happy and healthy relationship.
yep, this is very true! IP: Logged |