posted January 24, 2012 07:43 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I personally don't believe in reincarnation. Not really a believer in the concept of twin souls, either, though I do believe that some have soul mates. I don't believe that two people have to have perfect or near-perfect charts between them/can only have certain charts to be soulmates. I believe that two people with very challenging charts can still be soulmates and that they have the power to love and understand enough to rise above difficulties and use them as a means of becoming more balanced and making the relationship a harmonious whole. I also believe that people with "easy" charts can have a very dull and complacent relationship that has no spark and nothing to keep both people interested.

As for true love, my belief is that not everyone has a soulmate. (By soulmate, I'm referring to "THE ONE", romantically). Some people are meant to be single, others with partners. Very spiritual people like monks and nuns, for example, I would consider not to have soulmates--kindred spirits (i.e., very deep and intense friendships), but not soulmates. I would say that there are other people who also fall into that category who are not spiritual people, but who simply are just not 'called' to that path in life.

I also don't believe that other people "complete" us. We are already whole and complete as we are. Other people can complement us, but none of us are broken half-people. Marriage, to me, is a blending of two individuals to make one relationship--both people are still complete and whole by themselves, but choose to form a shared partnership that consists of two people working together in the context of a marriage. That is, I don't see it as two halves uniting to make one whole, but as two individuals on the same team, if that makes sense.

Out of those who do have soulmates, I would say that, while they all have several good matches, there is only ONE that is the best, and only one who is the love of one's life. It's kind of like Highlander, to use a frivolous reference. There can only be one. One true love exists for those with soulmates--many OK loves, perhaps, and several good ones, but only one that is THE love above all others.

I don't believe, though, that a happy ending is guaranteed, even for soulmates who do meet and who are in each other's lives. Fate can bring people together, but the two people still have to put in the effort and take it upon themselves to keep the spark alive, to continue to honor each other, and to act in ways that are conducive to a happy and healthy relationship. I view life in general as 50% fate and 50% our own actions. There are things that happen beyond our control, but even then, we can control some things, and even with the non-uncontrollables, we can control our reaction and response. So, it's not just up to fate: we have to do our part too.

I also think that people need to really take a lot of time to consider what kind of person they really would be happy with--not just what attracts them on a physical level, but what kind of person would really be compatible. And, too, I think that people need to really know themselves before they get married. They also should know what they want out of life and should have realistic expectations about marriage--not to the point of resigning oneself to 'settling', but basically I feel that, as with any important life decision, people should know what they are getting into and read the fine print before signing, so to speak. I think that a lot of people--young people in my generation especially--have very unrealistic ideas. There is so much hype about wedding days, and people go to all kinds of elaborate extremes. More focus is put on being a pretty princess for a day and having an extravagant party/ceremony than on the marriage itself.

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posted January 24, 2012 12:36 PM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Oh, I should throw in with the 'YES!' regarding secrecy. My God, I'm cagey and guarded. -laugh- And with a Saggy Mars, it tends to come off like a stand-up routine. -eyeroll- Good grief.

But the second someone DOES get past the gauntlet? Oh, man. That's a WHOLE 'nother story. Otherwise, I'm definitely a loner who tends to go through cycles where - I'm just fine living in my head, thanks much! - only to realise, 'Hey! Where'd everybody go?' I'm like the guy coming out from under the rock, stretching and rubbing his eyes. -yawn- 'So. What's up? I'd like to relate now ... You guys cool with that?'

Of course my Venus is far more proper, and, I've realised, the embodiment of my distant English heritage. (Oxford, mind.) She's very erudite and keeps to herself but dreams of fantasy and romance and ...

Oh, cripes. I think my Venus is Disney's Belle from 'Beauty and the Beast'.

... But didn't she end up with a dude locked away in a castle with a big secret? Huh? HUH? DIDN'T SHE? (I'm not yelling at you, I'm ribbing you in the side with a big smile on my face. See how that gets misconstrued?)

I've definitely been 'locked away' by a terrible person before I learnt how to be on my own two feet and stop being a bloody doormat. Crucial to this placement, I feel, as we all run the risk of coming from a background where our feelings were overlooked in place of Serving The Greater Good of the Family and all that rot.

Took that long, gruelling abusive relationship for me to go, 'Y'know what, bub, I'm outta here.' Sure, it made me VERY leery to get into another relationship, but karma handled that.

OH! KARMA!

That's a big one we're missing here. (Unless I missed it; excuse me if I did.)

I still kind of shake my head at the fact I'm married with a stepdaughter. THAT was never in my plan. I'm all for love and all that, but I never gazed upon brides and went through wedding magazines and dreamt of my Big Day. For me, it was more practical, (she IS in Virgo, after all). Why make such a focus about what's just the beginning of the legalising of a - hopefully - permanent relationship? I don't understand Bridezillas. My best bridesmaid (long story) had her car breakdown outside of the city where she was at BEFORE driving even further to where the wedding was - 18 hours to the ceremony. I wished her luck and asked what I could do; there was nothing. Luck arrived, she and I made floral bouquets at 2AM, and by 7PM the following day, she was in procession, with a slightly longer hem to her dress than we would've liked.

Meh.

Where was I? Oh, karma.

I've certainly had my share of karmic relationships, and a few secret ones. Quite intense, too, and serious-minded. But it seems karma directs my 'destiny' in terms of love and commitment. My stepdaughter clearly needed her dad and I to come together and get married. Otherwise, I'd probably still be single, creating in my dark hovel, and wondering what all the fuss the Scorpio and Sagittarius placements keep going on about.

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Indigo, your life experiences remind me much of my own for the most part. I look forward to you revealing your birthday/or chart whenever to see what placements and aspects we have in common!

posted January 24, 2012 12:59 PM            

I have Jupiter and Saturn in the 12th house. So ruler of my 12th house is Virgo/Mercury which is in my 10th house.

But I haven't met the man I love most or if I have, God played a cruel trick on me.

My view: I dun understand the concept of marrying someone you dun love... Either marry the one or do not marry... it must take ounce of guts and courage to continue living with someone who you dun love that way.... Okie, Scenerior: Man A is the One, and Man A got married, husband is 2nd best option... but there still must be someone out there who may capture your heart. A World of billions of ppl... statistics is always good. Not? Its still too difficult a task for me. It baffles me as much as it taints my idealist soul. My heart too small a space to fit more than one man. Its just too difficult to comprehend with this puny brain of mine.

posted January 24, 2012 01:37 PM            

I marry once and once only. I either do it right, or forget about it. But that's just me.

posted January 24, 2012 08:01 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
then you are like my husband you have a sextile between the 7th ruler and 12th ruler...I think that means that if you really desire that big love that you can experience it but since uranus is in the 7th you might run from it bc you dont feel comfortable with the intensity that comes along meeting a twin soul...husband is similar to you I feel he has that sextile between 12th ruler and 7th ruler but he has venus square uranus so intensity that would come along meeting his twin soul is something I feel he is not even open to it or ready for it....he is ready for a companion soulmate but not a twin soul....so you have to ask yourself if you are ready for a companion soulmate or a twin soul? if you are ready for a twin soul then it could happen in this life but if not you will not recognize it or walk from it.

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But like with Fishy... It was just to much for me... It consumed me.
I couldnt eat, sleep, clean my house, focus.. I couldnt do any thing...
I felt I was loosing control of my self...

Then something happen, which made me say I have to walk away..
I texted him and told him, Im walking away, and I have to find a way to let you go..

Once I did, I went home, went to sleep, cleaned my house... I felt the weight was lifted off my shoulders. I felt better inside... Im still sad, and hurting over it... But I just couldnt handle it any longer..

posted January 24, 2012 10:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
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WOW!!!!
I really really think you are on to something here.... At least for me...
I do also have pluto in H7. So I do like intense relationships also venus sq pluto..

But like with Fishy... It was just to much for me... It consumed me.
I couldnt eat, sleep, clean my house, focus.. I couldnt do any thing...
I felt I was loosing control of my self...

Then something happen, which made me say I have to walk away..
I texted him and told him, Im walking away, and I have to find a way to let you go..

Once I did, I went home, went to sleep, cleaned my house... I felt the weight was lifted off my shoulders. I felt better inside... Im still sad, and hurting over it... But I just couldnt handle it any longer..

So am I the runner??? LOL

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LOL......its ok you did what was best for you...you felt you were losing yourself so he sounds like he is twinsoul but you are not ready for it bc if you go for it will lose yourself so you are stepping back..

posted January 24, 2012 10:50 PM            

When (like now) I pull away (which this is like the 6th time, ive done it.. lol) we run into each other, or every time I turn around he is there.... Other wise, when we are talking we have to make an effort to see each other..

Alot of coincidence between us..
Look... Trip out on this..

his dads name is my ex husbands name
his brothers name is my sons name..

posted January 26, 2012 01:40 PM            

We all know 'em, but, here they are anyway.

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Call up, ring once, hang up the phone.
To let me know you made it home.
Don't want nothing to be wrong with part-time lover.

If she's with me I'll blink the lights.
To let you know tonight's the night.
For me and you my part-time lover.

We are undercover passions on the run,
Chasing love up against the sun.
We are strangers by day, lovers by night.
Knowing it's so wrong, feeling so right.

If I'm with friends and we should meet.
Just pass me by, don't even speak.
Know the word's "discreet" when part-time lovers.

But if there's some emergency.
Have a male friend to ask for me.
Then she won't seem to be my part-time lover.

We are undercover passions on the run,
Chasing love up against the sun.
We are strangers by day, lovers by night.
Knowing it's so wrong, feeling so right.

I've got something that I should tell.
Last night someone rang our doorbell.
It was not you, part-time lover.

And then a man called our exchange.
But did not want to leave his name.
Two can play the game of part-time lovers.

We are undercover passions on the run.
Chasing love up against the sun.
We are strangers by day, lovers by night.
Knowing it's so wrong, feeling so right.
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Now, show of hands. How many of us have actually been there? Even if it was just HS and you had to sneak around because his paranoid-schizophrenic mother had contracted someone to kill you?

Oh, wait. That part's just me.

But the rest applies!

Livin' The Dream (But Whose?) in Hollyweird,

posted July 24, 2020 04:52 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Five billion people on Earth. Looking for that perfect partner is impossible. Get what you are looking for and close on the deal. This isn't like shopping for cars and switching models until you arrive at a perfect one. Sometimes, it requires calculated risk and taking a gamble.

I marry once and once only. I either do it right, or forget about it. But that's just me.

The Ruler of my 12th House Aquarius is Uranus, which sits in the 7th House. My Venus and Saturn sit in the 12th HOuse in Aquarius.

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