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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 27, 2012 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine are in Virgo. Help please.

I just keep reading a lot of interpretations that have no relevance to me, and in fact, I find most of them absolute rubbish/nonsense.

Examples are: Uranus in 7th means an inability to commit, an inability to keep stable relationships, an eye for the "unavailable," likes unusual/weird partners, etc. Pluto in 7th means a domineering SOB who needs to find a submissive partner to lord over, someone who cannot be amicable when dealing with others, etc.

All those are absolutely untrue for me, and annoy me. Whatever. I don't need to go into the practical realities of my life.

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posted January 27, 2012 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okie, my best try at your question.

I did a chart for you on astro with all the love asteroids. You have UNION [1585] and Aphrodite [1388] in your 7th house together with uranus and pluto: your pluto conjunct your aphrodite (<1 degree), pluto conjunct your union (<2 degree) AND most importantly, APHRODITE conjunct UNION exact!! So that probably explains you love being married/in a committed relationship.

Aphrodite is the goddness of love, beauty, pleasure and procreation, areas where you will love. Link to my mini research on Aphrodite

Union, I guessed the name explains itself

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posted January 27, 2012 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool! Thanks!!

I've got to find a listing of all the appropriate "love planets" to add to my chart.

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I have uranus and pluto in 7th but not conjunct... I have been married 3x upto now and may marry again at some point...

maybe my interpretations will help
Basic astrology forum discussing Uranus in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000662.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Pluto in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000663.html

I also have moon square uranus, as well as uranus 7th. Now these are classic divorce aspects. maybe other will disagre, but speaking for myself with afflicted uranus, also being my chart ruler, conj sun/moon midpoint, so therefore square sun to...

Your pluto is well aspected with trine aspects. So remember planets are modifiedy by signs, where they express are houses and how they express are *aspects*

you also have jupiter and neptune as singletons..

Basic astrology forum, retrogrades,Unaspected & Singletons http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?ac tion=topics&forum=Basic+Astrology&number=12&DaysPrune=

As my Neptune singleton to ,will comment as follows---
now my neptune (0' critical degree) is 9th conj 10th cusp (not MC) in Equal house system. I feel (singletons) suggests this planet has 'more importance' and acts bit like the handle on a bucket chart or funnel for other energies. I have Neptune in Scorpio conj 10th house cusp opp sun/moon and as we know scorpio always wants deep and meaningful and is great for research, digging and delving into 'spiritual matters' (in my case) and working with spirit but always wanting more, or wanting things quicker(communications,symbols,messages), but never getting it, which has been a major frustration disillusionment -- typical Neptune rose tinted glasses.

We all think we can do better and push for better, but when the control (scorpio) is not in our hands ie: others then my theory/idea is 'serve or suffer' give in without reservation and accept you cannot limit, change or expect how others (spirit) want to or will work with me. Hope this makes sense

So think of the sign Scorpio - how this modifies Neptune, where is house (mine was 9th house of religion higher learning) and aspects is how neptune functions as in my case opposition to sun and moon, trine mars and generational square to Uranus. My Neptune opp sun/moon are also parts of *cradle* configuration

"When Neptune is a singleton (or angular, highly aspected, or at a critical degree, 29 or 0), there is a likelihood that the person will have an extraordinary degree of sensitivity. They may be so highly intuitive that they believe they have “psychic powers.” The sensitivity operates on all levels. In the physical, it can correlate with such maladies as “environmental sensitivity,” allergies of all kinds as well as a variety of autoimmune diseases. Narcolepsy (a sleep disorder), and vision problems are Neptunian afflictions. On the mental/emotional level, a person may be sensitive to “higher realms,” and experience mystical inspiration or insane delusions." http://www.astrologyclub.org/

I would add this neptune singleton has/is a major background but nonetheless important matter for ME. It's not a driving force per se like my chart ruler uranus. As uranus 7th Angular is conj Sun/moon midpoint(therefore square both luminaries) but also pof 1st and chiron both Aquarius first house..... now this I strongly identify with....

Now as YOUR neptune singleton is in 9th you may identify with my experiences. I always wanted good relationships with in-laws. Both my husbands families were very close, BUT when we married they both pulled away from them... Wherever neptune resides is where we have our greatest regrets and make sacrifices...

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Jupiter quincunx Pluto
Opinion, power…. Wanting everything at once. Misunderstand the reactions they get from others. Can have a transforming effect through philosophy and spiritual things..

“you will have to make significant adjustments in your life to justify the knowledge that you have. The line of least resistance is to complain about your fate and challenge the need to submit to it. This may lead you to become an opportunist, taking from others what you consider rightfully yours. You are missing the message completely if you do not yield to your real task, which is to become fully acquainted with changing social conditions and use your talent to do something constructive about them.”
From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Jupiter Quincunx Pluto
“Your overly self-secure mode of interacting disguises some deep distrust of your own foundations. Behind your flamboyance and manipulative assertions are some profound insecurities. When you come to terms with your own weaknesses and see them as not so profound or bad, you will simultaneously become more open and acknowledging of other people's values and points of view. This lays the foundation to use your vast insight and expanse of vision in a positive manner.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

Sun Quincunx Moon
“Your perceptions of others and of life circumstances alter as you get older. As others misunderstand your intentions and you misjudge others' motivations, natural corrections occur for you. It is through concentrating on the core values of communication in relationships that you make major adjustments between your ego drives and your emotional needs. This becomes a critical mechanism for personal growth and development.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

“your ties to the past and to emotional security are misaligned with the ways in which you consciously express your will and desire. The resulting stress is usually seen in relationships. In your desire to hold on to old friends and associates, you make enormous ¬concessions that interfere with your own development. You create situations that bind you with obligations to people and that are difficult to free yourself from. You so complicate your life this way that one would suspect your enjoy suffering at the hands of others.”
From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Sometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings.

Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesis
What tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...


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posted January 27, 2012 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks very much, SaggiMC.

When we got married, both fathers pulled the parachute ripcords and bailed on us. They hated us being together, objected to our marriage, and still do so. On the count of three, both of us stuck our middle fingers out at our birth fathers.

I loved my mother-in-law to the fullest extent and the feelings were well reciprocated. My mom had Alzheimers and did not get to know her daughter-in-law, although she speaks to her through her soul. Unfortunately, both mothers are gone.

Thanks so much for your contributions above. They are well beyond my comprehension of the subject matter and I will need to do some research. I nevertheless truly appreciate.

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posted January 27, 2012 09:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Cool! Thanks!!

I've got to find a listing of all the appropriate "love planets" to add to my chart.


there seems to be member in asteriod forum called IQ that is rather good on asteriods.

Love Asteroids
Eros 433,4386,16,447,1388,1221,763.3811,4580
Pysche 16
Valentine 447
Union 1585
Aphoridte 1388
Lust 4386
Amor 1221
Cupido 763
Karma 3811
Child 4580

Cupido is the "look" of love without the underlying love, as in a player
Lust is what you think it is
Psyche is soul mate connection
Eros is erotic love
http://cafeastrology.com/ephemerisasteroid2012.html

you may also want to research Vertex and Juno
Juno and asteriods http://www.terrynazon.com/Asteroids.html http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Juno21.3.html http://www.astrologycom.com/aster.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroids_in_astrology http://astrologyexpressed.wordpress.com/2009/06/08/juno-in-synastry/ http://www.astrologymatch.com/asteroids.htm http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/juno.html

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posted January 27, 2012 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much once again

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posted January 27, 2012 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome, thank you SaggiMC!

Also, Karma 3811, Tristan 1966 and Isolda (who were lovahs)211.

I have a 'stellium' in my 11th house between my venus and juno in aqua which also contains lust, union, and aphrodite. I have actually never knowingly met an Aquarius man!!! What gives?!(on a possibly irrelevant and funny note, my Aquarius friend has a fish named Aphrodite lol)Cupido is exactly conj my pisces merc in 12th house -that's alot of illusion for that 'player' asteroid lol My Valentine is conj my ASC in Aries and Child is on my NN in Aries. Amor also in first house in Aries. Eros in taurus in 2nd house but not conj my mars. I have Karma at 13* taurus conj Eros on one side and mars on the other and exactly conj my 2nd house cusp. Psyche retrograde and intercepted in virgo in the 6th. Isolda retrograde on the sixth and her lovah Tristan in pisces in the 12th. Vertex in Libra conj DC. Okay, I think I got that out of my system a bit lol (or that I am just getting started).

As for the OQ, I have pluto in the 7th conj moon and I think that it makes relationships transformative, deep, and psychologically illuminating. I have often been told by others that some people probably back away from me because I have a strong sense of who I am and that that is unnerving. However, I've never had a problem with being seen by others as undatable/unlovable. Actually, it is probably me that gets on myself like that lol. Even in high school guys would say 'you're going to make a really good wife someday' I was like 'What?! We're' 15!!' lol I do find that by the time someone comes out of a relationship with me they have a stronger sense of who they are at the core and what the are and aren't compatible with. The last two guys that I was involved with got engaged and/or married to the next females they were involved with. I used to take it so hard but then I realized what was really going on with the Plutonian energy. I really think that it is all about the way the energies are used. Planetary energy in and of itself is not bad I do not think. It is just a different viewpoint from the 'normal' -much like you and your wife YTA finding something beautiful that others view negatively- I think that uranus and pluto in relationships will find relationships that are quite different in the mainstream but maybe 'truer' to the natives themselves. Of course, at a cursory glance, it is useful to note if a romantic interest has these positions and to see how they handle the energies because a negative manifestation would probably result in the typical interpretations. However, we are proof that this is not always the case! I Love love and relationships! yay! lol

Edited a bit ^.^
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posted January 27, 2012 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have both Uranus and Pluto in H7. only in Libra..
I understand completely what you are saying.. Sometimes the "cookbook" explanations dont make sense.

The Uranus in H7 is because you married someone of a different nationality.
Also you just need a bit for space and/or freedom to be than other people..
Clingy and walking down the street with her arms around your waist would be awkward for you?????
Your Uranus has sextiles to your sun and other planets, so its just comfortable for you, you dont notice the easy flow, it just is...

As for Pluto in H7... You probably have some deep intense relationships, not meaning romantic either... This squares your moon, so its a challenge for you to transform "something" You learn lessons, and change through your relationships with other people.. (again not necessarily romantic)

Also with Pluto in H7 it can show your partners are intense people, and you cant under estimate people...
Im sure your wife can pack a punch so to speak (not meaning in a violent way)

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posted January 27, 2012 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 27, 2012 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lilith pluto, does the whole wanting to be in a committed relationship apply for sb who has union conjunct juno (1 degree in the 7th house) and who also has these two asteriods opposing their sun/venus/mars and mercury stellium (all orb under 1.5 degrees). Will it increase their tendency to be faithful and stable?

Thanks =)

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posted January 28, 2012 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lioness:
Also you just need a bit for space and/or freedom to be than other people..
Clingy and walking down the street with her arms around your waist would be awkward for you?????

Really no offense. This is where the astrology goes haywire.

Absolutely untrue.

You are not claiming this, but its a common stereotype about a conservative Asian afraid to show affection in public.

We have been known for going at it [in a mild manner] on a street corner in the middle of Times Square in NYC and I kissed her in the middle of Shibuya in Tokyo [for anyone who doesn't understand.. those are among the busiest places on planet Earth].

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posted January 28, 2012 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lioness:
As for Pluto in H7... You probably have some deep intense relationships, not meaning romantic either... This squares your moon, so its a challenge for you to transform "something" You learn lessons, and change through your relationships with other people.. (again not necessarily romantic).


Once again, totally untrue. I'm about the most psychotically romantic persons around. I'm also one of the most stubborn people around, and I change for nothing and nobody.

I don't go into "intense" relationship without a romantic element. Without love - true love - I drop the girl like a hot potato.

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posted January 28, 2012 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Pluto in the 7th can also be about intense feelings of loyalty and dedication in a relationship…. And a strong need for emotional intimacy with a partner…. Pluto is does not always function like a dominatrix in the 7th… this is an overly hyped astrological stereotype…. Just cos one or two freaks may fit this extreme profile, does not make it true for everyone with this placement…


Thank you very much! This makes perfect sense.

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posted January 28, 2012 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Uranus in the 7th is also not always an inability to commit, or even a ‘crazy’ partner…. But it usually does confer a partnership that is ‘different’, or does not fit the norms of society in some way. And as I recall you are an Asian man married to a white southern women…..and this is certainly unusual. I’m sure most people take a second look when they see the two of you together because it’s kind of unexpected…But, hey, I love odd couples personally…. They make life interesting…. There is something so beautiful about seeing two totally different people love each other despite (or even because of) these differences…. (I have Uranus semi-square Venus)…


Thank you very much! And this is the much more plausible explanation!

And I'm glad you like that we are "unusual." We received a lot of flack but couldn't have cared less.

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posted January 28, 2012 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:

Once again, totally untrue. I'm about the most psychotically romantic persons around. I'm also one of the most stubborn people around, and I change for nothing and nobody.

I don't go into "intense" relationship without a romantic element. Without love - true love - I drop the girl like a hot potato.


I think what Lioness was trying to say that the intensity might be a part of all your relationships, not necessarily only the romantic one with your wife, that this is how you basically approach relationships in general: with devotion, loyalty and intense engagement.


Also, Uranus rules your 12th house (because Aquarius is at the cusp) and is in your 7th house; your relationship is being influenced by deep feelings, sometimes subconscious even. What it basically means is that you "do" only spiritual and soulconnections in your relationships, nothing less.
There might be a deep spiritual bond connecting you to your wife and partner.

The ruler of the 7th house is conjunct Mars, and Pluto is trine Mars from the 7th house - Physical passion as well as cooperating as a team (11th house and Cappy influence there) must be part of your relationship.
Since the ruler of the 7th house is in Capricorn, there again is a very loyal, dedicated, sincere, focussed, yet also pragmatic feeling to it.
And not to forget earth signs are all pretty sensual.

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posted January 28, 2012 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotis White,

I admire your interpretative skills. I know you know that but wanted to say it again.

One day you need to tell me what your 3rd house ruler is doing to my chart or even natally in your chart, cause I swear, sometimes it feels as if you have been rummaging through my mind, but put what I believe and think in so much more eloquent words than I ever could.

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posted January 28, 2012 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I think what Lioness was trying to say that the intensity might be a part of all your relationships, not necessarily only the romantic one with your wife, that this is how you basically approach relationships in general: with devotion, loyalty and intense engagement.


Lioness, I apologize if that is what you meant.

Ceridwen, that is completely true. I'm intensely loyal to all those who are true friends to me. Not many people are, and people routinely disappoint me, but for those who are friends, I'll take the hit from a bus for them.

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posted January 28, 2012 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Also, Uranus rules your 12th house (because Aquarius is at the cusp) and is in your 7th house; your relationship is being influenced by deep feelings, sometimes subconscious even. What it basically means is that you "do" only spiritual and soulconnections in your relationships, nothing less.

There might be a deep spiritual bond connecting you to your wife and partner.


And that is true. My wife and I have religion in common, and that is what binds us. She wouldn't have married me if not for the religion we share.

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posted January 28, 2012 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The ruler of the 7th house is conjunct Mars, and Pluto is trine Mars from the 7th house - Physical passion as well as cooperating as a team (11th house and Cappy influence there) must be part of your relationship.
Since the ruler of the 7th house is in Capricorn, there again is a very loyal, dedicated, sincere, focussed, yet also pragmatic feeling to it.
And not to forget earth signs are all pretty sensual.


Thank you very much. I'm going to have to take my time to do research to understand what you just said But thank you!

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I think what Lioness was trying to say that the intensity might be a part of all your relationships, not necessarily only the romantic one with your wife, that this is how you basically approach relationships in general: with devotion, loyalty and intense engagement.


Also, Uranus rules your 12th house (because Aquarius is at the cusp) and is in your 7th house; your relationship is being influenced by deep feelings, sometimes subconscious even. What it basically means is that you "do" only spiritual and soulconnections in your relationships, nothing less.
There might be a deep spiritual bond connecting you to your wife and partner.

The ruler of the 7th house is conjunct Mars, and Pluto is trine Mars from the 7th house - Physical passion as well as cooperating as a team (11th house and Cappy influence there) must be part of your relationship.
Since the ruler of the 7th house is in Capricorn, there again is a very loyal, dedicated, sincere, focussed, yet also pragmatic feeling to it.
And not to forget earth signs are all pretty sensual.



I don't think enough people use these rulerships enough and they are VERY important..

Ruler of the Twelfth House in the First House
"Your outlook on life is influenced by what is going on subconsciously. Something about your personality reflects your desire to help other people and they can easily recognize this. You may experience a time of confusion and doubt about who you really are and you can be your own worst enemy at times. The most important " http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr12

The sign position of Uranus indicates our restlessness and what for us is individual, modern and thrilling. The house position of Uranus indicates where we desire free expression, seek to be different, and where things get turned upside down! Shocks, surprises, upheavals, freedom, independence. Uranus being a higher octave of mercury, like Neptune is a higher octave of venus. The house Uranus is in is where we seek to be different, want free expressions and where things get turned upside down.

Uranus in 7th House – Angular house
These people have an intrinsic sense of fair play, of justice and of equality. When these principles are ¬consistently violated in relationships, the cumulative stress can induce a psychologically traumatic state. When this occurs they must re evaluate themselves in terms of their expectations about reality in general, and relationship dynamics specifically
Shows a desire for freedom in marriage. The partner may be unusually intelligent. Your choice of mate could be unpredictable. Need certain amount of freedom within a marriage or your partner may want or need this. Can go both ways. Difficulties in marriage either one can be too independent. Boredom and routine needs breaking occasionally to keep things fresh, exciting. But with a certain amount of eccentricity married life will not be dull.
Divorce or separation, sometimes by sudden death if Uranus is afflicted. Apt to attract a partner who wants to feel free and be a law unto themselves. Suddenly find themselves being confronted by ‘open enemies’ which will come as a surprise – but at least that way it can be dealt with (much better than 12th/secret enemies)

Pluto in 7th House - angular
Deep need for partnerships. May attract strong willed and ¬domineering and/or powerful people in close relationships. Either want to be the controller or want to be dominated by the partner. Can be extreme highs and lows IF badly aspected. If chart ruler also in the 7th house, will want to involve the partner in every facet and decision in your life (If in twelfth house, never discuss or disclose anything to him). Have a strong sense of justice and intense reactions to wrong doings ( Libra naturally rules this house). As business partnerships are concerned, will ¬ be excellent at dealing with the business & money side of the company

Note to Mods: the above two interpretations are not copyright material but my own views and therefore not issues connected to plagaism

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posted January 28, 2012 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry SaggiMC, you probably researched it well but I cannot relate to what you wrote about Uranus. More so for Pluto, but even then.

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Sorry SaggiMC, you probably researched it well but I cannot relate to what you wrote about Uranus. More so for Pluto, but even then.

I also notice you have pluto square MC (like me)

Pluto in Square, Quincunx, Opposition to Midheaven
“Don't be surprised if you have your share of power struggles with authority figures. This aspect suggests domination and control. You can rise to a position of important influence over the lives of others. All efforts to climb to the top should be kept completely honest and aboveboard.
Consider some of the following career potentials: archaeology, espionage, psychiatry, mortuary science, the secret service, banking, or the medical profession--especially surgery.” http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectspluto.htm

Pluto square MC for a long time I was not even 'aware' how this functioned or played out, until I was out with a friend, who ended up defending me from a verbal attack from a woman. It seems with pluto we/you give out scorpio/pluto vibes of authority, power and control and possibly on a subconscious level, *others* especially women pick up on this and feel it's 'fair game' to challenge and attack. It doesn't happen all the time, just occasionally. Plus mine is in 7th Angular/most visible and house of open enemies, which I really don't mind coming up in my face either...

Astrology can explain lots of things, especially regarding your personality, traits etc but it's entirely upto YOU to make changes in your life, you are the captain of your ship no-one else. Knowing astrology is not going to change you or do this for you! We all have to go through rough transits, to learn and to grow as a person, so in that regard you are no different...

can you identify with this aspect??

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SaggiMC,

Yes. That makes a lot of sense.

In the professional world, I routinely have struggles with authority. I make it well known that I have high expectations from my bosses and those who want to lead me. I cannot stand incompetence and non-diligence. I can deal with ego, but my respect has to be earned, and I often question those who try to boss me around. I'm also a tough taskmaster and hold my subordinates to high standards. I'm a banker.

At home, I yield power to my wife. As lilithpluto and Lioness have intimated, she has a strong, domineering personality and I don't mind her "wearing the pants" at home. As much as I myself have a strong personality, I cede power and control to my wife out of love. But no one else.

I certainly have had women try to manipulate and control me. It doesn't work very well because I'm a practical Earth sign. I'm not open to "challenge and attack" from men. As you can imagine, the goat does have rather sharp horns.

I'm not sure what there is to change in this regard. My power struggles with authority have made me work all the more harder to prove myself, and ultimately have catapulted my career. Unfortunately, the path to advancement is often illuminated when others see what a moron your boss is, and move you into position to replace your boss. This is true at least in my profession.

The danger of ceding power and control to my wife out of love is the possibility that she crosses the line one day. However, the act is all governed by common sense and knowing when to step in and tell her when its too much. Therefore, I don't see a problem with that.

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