posted February 02, 2012 05:18 PM            

"Role model,for example. Not that person actively pursues that title,but with firm set of beliefs and moral compass,they spread their influence in a inspiring,desirable manner; One looks up to them,takes importance in their actions and words,they matter,in short."

posted February 02, 2012 05:19 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
These seem to be rather simplistic generic ideas and synastry to me is far more complex.

the worst for wanting the control are 'fixed signs' espec on angles, scorpio and leo absolutely want the control in everything, not just relationships to..

thing with Aries is it's *SELFISH* and all about them, them and them. BUT it's not the same as wanting the control or forcing control in relationships.

so planets in 8th house of scorpio, planets in 5th house of leo.

Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
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Which planets and aspects would determine it?
Is the scale tipped on the side of the one who contributes Saturn, Pluto, and Mars, for example? Or even a Cap moon ?

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posted February 02, 2012 05:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
So, in essence, simplistically speaking, they would be aware of the consequence and stopping themselves from taking a negative action? Meaning, an action that would harm or impact others negatively, right?

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Yes!
But,again,self-awareness is double-edge sword (on negative side,person may continue on acting,despite the damage,because of righteous,ideologistic nature of their self-awareness. )

posted February 02, 2012 05:39 PM            

"We kinda drifted from the topic (that happens here a lot,but since you are new flake,you may not appreciate your thread being hijacked."

Thanks for being considerate, I'm actually really appreciating your realistic perspective. And we are trying to get to the bottom of this power issue.

"self-awareness is double-edge sword (on negative side,person may continue on acting,despite the damage,because of righteous,ideologistic nature of their self-awareness."

I see now how the use of the term "self awareness" is incomplete.

posted February 02, 2012 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
To put this question to rest, from everything you've said, would it be correct for me to conclude that self awareness becomes a single edged sword (working only for positive) when it is combined with the spiritual insight of having no desire to harm another

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You can hurt somebody even when you mean no harm.
I don't think we can just shut down the other side. But,we can insist on one Knowing your boundaries,and stepping up and admitting when wrong...

posted February 02, 2012 06:03 PM            

"You can hurt somebody even when you mean no harm.
I don't think we can just shut down the other side. But,we can insist on one Knowing your boundaries,and stepping up and admitting when wrong...

To me,being self-aware is being a healthy individual(istic)."

Yep, completely agree. Wow! You're pretty insightful. BTW, do you have Mercury aspecting Pluto? 'cause you seem to think deeply about things?

posted February 02, 2012 06:40 PM            

I have H3 Saturn,among other...

posted February 02, 2012 07:58 PM            

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I think there's a difference btwn being strong willed and controlling.
One can have a strong mind and can be stubborn and still compromise and 'hold back.' While another can be just controlling and unyielding for whatever reason.

Control is based on fear isn't it. It stems from insecurity in a way.

I for one am pretty strong willed. Like extremely at times...But I've never been controlling. It's such a waste of energy isn't it?

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Just had to say- I agree with this Mintgirl. I am very strong willed and stubborn, ESPECIALLY when I'm dealing with someone who is trying to control me (which I have done). You have to be able to have a backbone. Nothing wrong with that.

CONTROL always seems to me to be someone attempting to put another person in a compromising position- one which you don't necessarily want to be in. Generally manipulation is used.

posted February 02, 2012 08:33 PM            

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Control is based on fear isn't it. It stems from insecurity in a way.

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posted February 02, 2012 11:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
RedScorp, thanks for including some of your placements.

What are your major aspects to Pluto, Mars, and Saturn (upto orbs of 5)?

Thanks for the reply.

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MAJOR ASPECTS, HMM?

Pluto: conjunct Jupiter (the rest is beyond 5)

Mars: square Sun, Jupiter

posted February 03, 2012 12:59 PM            

So let's see, you have "Scorp Sun, Scorp Venus, Cap Moon, Leo Mars."

"Pluto: conjunct Jupiter (the rest is beyond 5)

Mars: square Sun, Jupiter

Saturn: trine Venus"

ok my curiosity is piqued. Without wishing to intrude on the privacy of your Scorp Sun and Venus , I'd like to be able to see your natal w/ the aspect table (from astro.com). Just block out personal info at the top of the chart.

"I like to have control and power in relationships, THOUGH NOT ABUSIVELY. Usually I'm just relaxed and sh!t - not giving a care for all that. It's just when I feel threatened, I like to flex my, you can say, leadership, ahaha."

You've been honest about saying that you like control and power tho' you don't abuse it. Venus trine Saturn (devotion in long term love) could account for your not abusing power. But Neptune could also modify.

This is why I'd like to know more.

If you don't want to post the natal then could you list more aspects w/ the orbs.

posted February 03, 2012 10:37 PM            

Essentially, I responded to provide clarification on posts. I tried to be polite in my response, but nevertheless rather direct without being abrasive. If one chooses to view my response as being rude, then I apologize. I believe I spoke my mind, as I usually do in regular life.

By the way, "Starlight*" in that post is not my wife. That's a friend. Yes, she's a girl and its platonic. She is here in LL as "Starry~" She was just trying to learn from responses to that thread. Alas, the responses were typical internet interpretations that are not applicable to my instance.
http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1328014333

posted February 04, 2012 06:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:

In men:

Aries Moon, Aries Mercury, Aries Venus, Aries Mars.

In men and/or women:

Venus in Aries
Venus Retrograde
Venus square Mars
Venus square Saturn
Venus square Pluto
Mars square or opposite Pluto

And the least likely aspect *ever* to turn a relationship into a power-play is:

Venus or Mars in close trine/sextile or conj with Neptune.

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I have Sun, Venus and Mars closely conjunct in Aries. Opposite Pluto. Taurus moon in the 8th. Pluto in the 1st. Have been controlling my controlling tendencies for six years now