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ariesdragon
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posted February 17, 2012 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
I just wanted to add that I don't have a personal beef with you, mintgirl.

I'm just sick of this particular thing being blamed on people with my placements - specifically one - because hardly anyone has actual experience to back it up.


Ok let me clear your mind teasel

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ariesdragon
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posted February 17, 2012 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a bro. He has Venus in Gemini...
Ok he was very innocent, deep & caring.
At 16yrs old he lost his virginity to his very
1st girlfriend. He thought she was "the one"
Well I wish I knew her Venus aspect but I don't.
Anyway since I know his, I'll stick to his.
So they were together for about 6 months and BANG
She cheated on him with an ex-bf. My bro was torn!
He dumped her a** and I never saw him faithful to any
other girl for about 14yrs! He took virginities and didn't
care. He would date 4-5 girls at a time (all sexual)
I mean these girl's heads would spin. They were just dumbfounded as to why he was so emotionally unattached. He never told them because of his pride. So with time they healed but he broke a lot of hearts.
He was married once for 3yrs and then they divorced.
Now he's engaged happily and he's 32.

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mintgirl123
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posted February 17, 2012 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah alot of players are the way they are cos somebody they really cared about hurt them.

Either guys become commitphobes and players, or they become really distrusting and closed off. Kinda sad really, how one person can screw somebody up so much they totally change afterwards.

And Teasel, all good =). It's good to know there are some good apples amongst the bad ones! At end of day, some placements give more potential to do wrong things, but doesn't force the person to do it. It's all about choices =).

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Libreo
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posted February 17, 2012 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
I think venus in sags are quite loyal actually =). I'd trust them more than venus in gem and pisces.


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Libreo
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posted February 17, 2012 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Darn that must suck. It's strange cos the libras I know aren't like that, esp one with a sag venus, she has alot of air and fire (not leo fire so it's not fixed) and she's been with her bf for like 5 and half years. And considering I'm in my early 20's, that's really impressive.
She DOES have a taurus moon though (love em).
Yeah cheating is cheating, doesn't need to be physical. Emotional is imo worse.

....and again..

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sand
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posted February 17, 2012 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted February 17, 2012 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Yeah alot of players are the way they are cos somebody they really cared about hurt them.

I dated a lot after being hurt, but I didn't go around hurting others. If dating a lot was being a "player," then I did that. However, it never stopped me from being committed in any relationship, if I agreed to enter into a relationship.

My first true girlfriend became preggo with the baby of my best male friend. How's that for a concurrent double whammy? He was a childhood friend too; went to kindergarten with me. And then wanted me, as an 18 year old, to marry her and accept the new baby girl into my life.

I think I set new standards in the concept of a messed up life.

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IamLoved
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posted March 02, 2012 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know a lot of people with virgo mars (male and female) and they all cheated on their spouse at some point in their life...... I just don't get why!!!!

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posted March 02, 2012 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Starry~*:
The Taurus man I'm talking about above had:

[b]Venus Opposing Saturn
Venus Opposing Uranus

So happens Saturn + Uranus, along with Neptune, are all in his 5th house.

He also has uranus trining AC and moon

Duno if any of that is related though



I have venus opp sat and I am 100% faithful!!!!

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Capriquarius
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posted March 02, 2012 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Transits factor in too.

I stayed super loyal for 8 years. Then when my natal Moon-Venus-Uranus got triggered by tNep around the time of my Saturn return, I wanted out. He wouldn't let me go. Broke away for a few months, he wormed his way back in, made me miserable. When rx tNep was once again activating my nMoon-Venus-Uranus square, I cheated. I stopped having sex with him altogether after that, and he kicked me out.

Haven't been committed since, just find myself getting drawn to or attracting guys who are unavailable in some way.

Fuq nMoon-Venus-Uranus square... Really at odds with my Capricorn desire for security.

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pisceanscorpion
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posted March 02, 2012 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pisceanscorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the Scorpio in me hates it when my partner flirts..my chart is water/earth mainly fixed cardinal.

My partner has Venus in Gemini so he is quite the flirt ..I don't tolerate it. I feel it leaves possibility of cheating open. honestly it threatens security a bit

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Doreen
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posted March 02, 2012 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
No.

Some people will say that Venus in Gemini is the worst, and as one who possesses that Venus sign, I say that is total crap.


My Cancer niece has Venus in Gemini cheats on every boyfriend lol

Jennifer Lopez has Venus in Gemini

I have read that having Moon or Mars in a fire sign can make a man cheat

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Jounia
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posted March 03, 2012 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jounia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Gemini simply needs a strong mental connection and a partner who is psychologically interesting.
Venus in Gemini does not make someone prone to cheating. It makes them prone to having a high degree of nervous energy when it comes to love and relationships.. a kind of restlessness.. so if they are not with the right person - if they are with a particularly boring or uncommunicative person - they will move on.

But we all have thresholds and we can all end a relationship for different reasons.

Gemini leaves when the mental connection dies.

Also, air signs - including Gemini are the least physical. Air sign Venus and Mars can go years without sex... so I'm not sure why people would mention 'physical' cheating in connection to this sign anyway.
The physicality of sex is not very important to them. They often 'research' sex and love... They don't have to engage. They only engage rarely.


Betty, you nailed it. Spot on IMO.

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rorrr
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posted March 05, 2012 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rorrr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience, it's been:

- Hard Venus-Uranus aspects
- Hard Venus-Neptune aspects

and

- Moon in Aries (as well, Sag, Aquarius, Gemini) + Venus / Mars in Pisces, Aries, Gemini, Aquarius
- Aries rising

There are always exceptions; you have to look at the over-all chart, but Venus Uranus is killer. Almost all cheaters I know have them.

Some examples:
I know an incredibly attractive guy with no moral qualms about sleeping with several different people at once. He's a Scorp with Libra rising, so you would think he'd be relationship & fidelity-oriented, but he has Aquarius Moon conjunct Pisces Venus > square Uranus. Uck!

Another friend is a Sag Sun with a Venus in Scorpio. Definitely not a tell-tale sign of a cheater. But she has an Aries Moon, Sun-conjunct-Neptune (giving it a Piscean flavor) and Venus conjunct Uranus. Right now she's in a long term relationship with an uber Leo, and even though there's love, she is utterly miserable without her freedom. She wonders whether she is made for relationships. I never know what to tell her!

Other cases include:
A Cancer Sun, Sag Moon, Leo Venus. Definitely doesn't seem like a cheater, but with Aries Rising, Moon-conjunct-Neptune quincunx Venus, Mars sextile Uranus, and Venus square Pluto... ugh, he was a crazy mess. He was actually an evil, horrible genius villain.

An almost everything Aquarius except for Sag Moon and Mars. But with a big 12th house Aquarius stellium (Sun, Merc, Venus, Jupiter) + tight Venus sextile Uranus and semisquare Neptune... he is a lovely non-monogamous man.

Another case Pisces cheating evidence is one I know with a Libra Moon. Needs relationships, right? But with Pisces Sun, Venus, and Mercury + Mars in Gemini... Venus trine Uranus... it's too much. Once burned by a relationship, he now walks around with a Monday, Tuesday...Friday rolodex of girls!

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mintgirl123
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posted March 05, 2012 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ still depends on person

I'm an aries rising, and uranus exact conjunct MC so I get bored easily but I don't two time.

I had an ex with venus in Sag conjunct uranus tight and he was really committed. He also had an aries moon! Lol

What does that say? Cheating is a choice. There's no excuses for it actually. I just think if sb's not happy they should get out of the relationship before making a fool of the other person.

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chocogold
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posted March 05, 2012 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chocogold     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so rorr

what about sun, venus and mercury in gemini opposite uranus in sag?

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mintgirl123
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posted March 05, 2012 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ ok that's almost certainly a cheater.

Unless he tries VERY hard to control his urges.

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ariesdragon
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posted March 05, 2012 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
^ still depends on person

I'm an aries rising, and uranus exact conjunct MC so I get bored easily but I don't two time.

I had an ex with venus in Sag conjunct uranus tight and he was really committed. He also had an aries moon! Lol
What does that say? Cheating is a choice. There's no excuses for it actually. I just think if sb's not happy they should get out of the relationship before making a fool of the other person.


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aquaguy91
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posted March 05, 2012 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Yeah alot of players are the way they are cos somebody they really cared about hurt them.

Either guys become commitphobes and players, or they become really distrusting and closed off. Kinda sad really, how one person can screw somebody up so much they totally change afterwards.

And Teasel, all good =). It's good to know there are some good apples amongst the bad ones! At end of day, some placements give more potential to do wrong things, but doesn't force the person to do it. It's all about choices =).


i agree with this 100 percent, i am starting to be that way, i really dont care anymore.haha

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mintgirl123
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posted March 05, 2012 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah my heart's kinda numb these days. Kinda apathetic and can't really 'like' anyone the way I used to.

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posted March 05, 2012 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Yeah my heart's kinda numb these days. Kinda apathetic and can't really 'like' anyone the way I used to.


same, im swearing off dating and relationships until people grow up, it seems like everybody wants something they cant have,they say they want a real relationship but chase after people who are never ever going to commit to them,it makes no sense to me

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posted March 05, 2012 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've learnt a hard lesson that you can never depend on anyone, or trust them lol. Just cos you treat sb really well with respect doesn't mean they'll have the decency to give it back. =/ Heart is still working though.
Surprisingly.

Am so jaded now. Kinda wish I wasn't.

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VenusDiSirius
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posted March 05, 2012 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Yeah my heart's kinda numb these days. Kinda apathetic and can't really 'like' anyone the way I used to.

You know,if Virgos stop caring,world falls apart

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