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Ami Anne
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posted February 27, 2012 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is your Chiron placement your ABSOLUTE hardest house?

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posted February 27, 2012 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would seem that my Chiron in 1st House very closely Conjunct my Pisces ASC (as per the regular birth chart), and loosely Conjunct my Saturn in 12th House, as especially unusually, excessively painful, as has been my childhood, notwithstanding the consternation of my father, who is deeply offended at my insinuations that my childhood was miserable.

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posted February 27, 2012 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is in the 4th. With a recent change in ASC, it went back to the 4th. It was in the 3rd and never really fit. I am wondering if Chirons House is one way we can check on the ASC

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posted February 27, 2012 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A shift in ASC would seem a bit severe for me, but even a slight adjustment would move Chiron into the 12th House, which would seem to make it even worse.

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posted February 27, 2012 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron is beautiful. Everything it represents is something beyond touching.
It's your trial in life. Everyone was meant to pass the test... but some don't. They kill themselves and succumb to their depression.

The strong destined one's overcome the pain by seeing they aren't victims anymore.

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posted February 27, 2012 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Chiron is beautiful. Everything it represents is something beyond touching.
It's your trial in life. Everyone was meant to pass the test... but some don't. They kill themselves and succumb to their depression.

The strong destined one's overcome the pain by seeing they aren't victims anymore.


So true

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posted February 27, 2012 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
A shift in ASC would seem a bit severe for me, but even a slight adjustment would move Chiron into the 12th House, which would seem to make it even worse.


I meant that this could help someone figure out the ASC. Sorry for the confusion, Ian!

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posted February 27, 2012 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For you Ian----I could see a 12th House one, for sure. Your pain propelled you to find God which is the 12th House solution.

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posted February 27, 2012 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought God was the 9th house? My senses say its YTA's 1st house that holds his chiron wound.

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posted February 27, 2012 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is in the 3rd, in Pisces, tho I have a LOADED 3rd house with Aqua planets, so again, this is a hard one for me to differentiate.

I do not think my 3rd in Aqua is my hardest house, Neptune in the 12th gives me much more problems

When Uranus transited those 3rd house planets years ago, opposed himself, then hell yea, problematical, but 3rd house issues are not a problem with me.

There is one exception, I have Saturn in Aqua in the 3rd as well, tho very removed from my tsquare/stellium thing in the 3rd.

Just cant say what I want to at times, and as a young child I stuttered terribly, trying to get my thoughts/feelings out.

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posted February 27, 2012 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hippichick:
Mine is in the 3rd, in Pisces, tho I have a LOADED 3rd house with Aqua planets, so again, this is a hard one for me to differentiate.

I do not think my 3rd in Aqua is my hardest house, Neptune in the 12th gives me much more problems

When Uranus transited those 3rd house planets years ago, opposed himself, then hell yea, problematical, but 3rd house issues are not a problem with me.

There is one exception, I have Saturn in Aqua in the 3rd as well, tho very removed from my tsquare/stellium thing in the 3rd.

Just cant say what I want to at times, and as a young child I stuttered terribly, trying to get my thoughts/feelings out.


Think of your GREATEST pain. Was it the stuttering etc?

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posted February 27, 2012 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as a child yes....and as an adult just cant say what I am feelling, most of the time~

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posted February 27, 2012 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Mine is in the 4th. With a recent change in ASC, it went back to the 4th. It was in the 3rd and never really fit. I am wondering if Chirons House is one way we can check on the ASC


Oh Ami really?
How come your ASC changed?

I think your Chiron is definitely in the 4th and not in the 3rd, makes much more sense!

And to answer your question, I would say yes, in my case the 5th house is the hardest, as Chiron resides there.
The 11th is tough too though, with Saturn in there.
Seems I have a hard time with the 5th/11th house axis.

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posted February 27, 2012 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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as a child yes....and as an adult just cant say what I am feelling, most of the time~


YEP if you can pin point the most pain to something, Chiron should be in there.

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posted February 27, 2012 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Doux someone changed my ASC from Libra to Scorpio. The Houses changed of course. I felt like it was me, so much. It fit so well. However, now I wonder if he was right. My birth certificate and mother say 1:30 which would make me an early Libra ASC--7 degrees. He had me at 12 degrees Scorpio lol

I think he had to get Venus in the 7th cuz I am not wild

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posted February 27, 2012 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you relate to Scorpio ASC or Libra ASC?
They're so very different.

So if your ASC is in Scorpio, that puts Chiron in the 4th? If so, I'd think it's the right one.

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posted February 27, 2012 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know I'm probably one of the people here with the most painful childhoods, but the point is that I came out alright.

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My chiron is in my 9th house, and I have no trouble with it at all. In fact, I feel I jive with it rather well most of the time. It does take some time to "adjust" to it though. It's largely due to my mars being in the 9th house as well, but I feel much better when I have moved far from my own home. I grew up in southern New Jersey, and now I live in northwest Oregon. I also THRIVE in higher education environments.

My roughest house to me I would say is the 2nd. It usually will hit my panic button if anything touches money issues.

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posted February 27, 2012 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fondue Knight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Chiron in the 6th. I think I feel it most in regards to my health. I have zero major health problems, but I struggle with the day-to-day details of leading a healthy life. I get ideas all the time like how I'm going to start exercising and eating a more healthy diet, but nothing ever comes to fruition. When it comes to giving advice to other people on these topics, I'm awesome, but I can't ever seem to get my own ass in gear.

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posted February 27, 2012 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Do you relate to Scorpio ASC or Libra ASC?
They're so very different.

So if your ASC is in Scorpio, that puts Chiron in the 4th? If so, I'd think it's the right one.



No--SCorpio Asc was what he changed me to. That puts Chiron in the 3rd

Libra ASC which is what is on my Birth Certificate puts Chiron in the 4th and takes away ALL 8th House planets.It makes a 9th house stellium off 4 planets. It takes Pluto from conj the MC to the 11th House too.It takes Retro Saturn OFF the ASC

It takes Neptune out of the 12th and I have no 12th House planets.

YOU know me very,very well Doux
What do you think?

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posted February 27, 2012 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have Chiron in the 6th. I think I feel it most in regards to my health. I have zero major health problems, but I struggle with the day-to-day details of leading a healthy life. I get ideas all the time like how I'm going to start exercising and eating a more healthy diet, but nothing ever comes to fruition. When it comes to giving advice to other people on these topics, I'm awesome, but I can't ever seem to get my own ass in gear.


^ I can so relate!
My Chiron is in Virgo (and my Moon, just as yours).

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posted February 27, 2012 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^ I can so relate!
My Chiron is in Virgo (and my Moon, just as yours).



See I don't have that at all. I eat raw and do yoga. Each person has such different struggles. You know?

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posted February 27, 2012 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Imagine an innocent child being born into an abusive family where they get hit everyday for nothing. Literally abused in the most horrible ways so that when they grow up they can't really trust anyone and spend the rest of their life trying to understand why they were abused and why this happened to them.

Well, that's chiron. He doesn't manifest fairly at times. But I know the child has more innocence than anyone else and this is where the chiron wound will come in very strongly because no child should ever have to experience abuse right?

And that's the mentality that makes the person a victim. Until they step into the light and see that nobody is born with an easy life and it's up to you to make a way for yourself to experience a good life. And to use your experience to help others that may have experienced what you did when younger.

I know someone who was beaten very badly for nothing when he was a little boy, and sadly it does show because he is very untrusting and jumpy. He told me if he ever saw someone hit their child he would kick their a**. This is his way of trying to become a wounded healer.

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posted February 27, 2012 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

No--SCorpio Asc was what he changed me to. That puts Chiron in the 3rd

Libra ASC which is what is on my Birth Certificate puts Chiron in the 4th and takes away ALL 8th House planets.It makes a 9th house stellium off 4 planets. It takes Pluto from conj the MC to the 11th House too.It takes Retro Saturn OFF the ASC

It takes Neptune out of the 12th and I have no 12th House planets.

YOU know me very,very well Doux
What do you think?


That's a very hard question, Ami.

Let me think about it.
I'll come back to you on this.

But I think deep inside you already know the answer.

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posted February 27, 2012 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fondue Knight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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See I don't have that at all. I eat raw and do yoga. Each person has such different struggles. You know?


I did yoga for a spell. I used to go to the gym regularly. I can't seem to keep any of it up. But I'm damn determined to despite all the setbacks!

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