posted February 27, 2012 01:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

No--SCorpio Asc was what he changed me to. That puts Chiron in the 3rd

Libra ASC which is what is on my Birth Certificate puts Chiron in the 4th and takes away ALL 8th House planets.It makes a 9th house stellium off 4 planets. It takes Pluto from conj the MC to the 11th House too.It takes Retro Saturn OFF the ASC

It takes Neptune out of the 12th and I have no 12th House planets.

YOU know me very,very well Doux
What do you think?

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posted February 27, 2012 01:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

^ I can so relate!
My Chiron is in Virgo (and my Moon, just as yours).

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posted February 27, 2012 01:32 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Imagine an innocent child being born into an abusive family where they get hit everyday for nothing. Literally abused in the most horrible ways so that when they grow up they can't really trust anyone and spend the rest of their life trying to understand why they were abused and why this happened to them.

Well, that's chiron. He doesn't manifest fairly at times.

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And that's me, except that my family conducted their actions under the guise of "tough love."

posted February 27, 2012 01:36 PM            

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posted February 27, 2012 01:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Fondue Knight:
My Chiron is in Gemini, but Venus rules my 6th and is trine my Virgo Moon. It all connects somehow, haha.

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Venus rules my 6th too, and it makes a sextile to my Moon. We have some similarities

YTA, oh my, sorry for your troubled childhood. You are a very strong person though. I think your Chiron is in the 1st, as it relates to our physical self, and you said you have scars and been physically abused, sounds very 1st house wound to me.

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posted February 27, 2012 01:55 PM            

i have juno and the north node there but no planets.

CHIRON IN THE 8th HOUSE means strange, possibly sadomasochistic attitudes also within the sexual life. You have big healing and regeneration forces and deep occult knowledge. Surely you get in contact with power structures or even hold a position of power by yourself, however, both possibilities could cause difficulties. Then you perhaps seek for revenge and rage against something or someone, retreating later. This position often promises strong self-restraint and fears of death, the own and that of others, as well as symbolic deaths. In this position owner-seizing tendencies can be found eventually, which then usually aim for security. Inheritances play a role. Profits and losses of material or financial kind can develop themselves here in dramatic or even dangerous ways. This position clearly has a karmic touch. Human beings usually are confronted inevitably with the consequences of their acting or omitting here. A conscious becoming of these circumstances can lead to fearfulnesses, sometimes managed by self-restraint. Possibly from the chironic, karmic mischief comes the knowledge that the chironic healing is a result of recognizing that all negative actions are followed by negative consequences. http://solar_a_w_e_f.tripod.com/starsforever/id6.html

posted February 27, 2012 01:57 PM            

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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
Anybody know what Chiron in the 3rd house would be?

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Pain with communicating--somehow. I see it as a stuttering, ADD etc

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posted February 27, 2012 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ian Sweetie Your Chiron sounds like 12h House to me. I assume your abuse was hidden.

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But that's precisely the point. It was not considered "abuse" in the culture I grew up with. In fact, it was considered "great parenting" and whacking the kids to oblivion is considered the hallmark of a loving, affectionate parent. The fact that we don't understand is a function of our intellectual inferiority and mental xenophobia as "westerners."

It was never hidden. My scars were a mark of proud parenting and shown off. There was never an impetus to "hide" my childhood. It was considered "necessary." It wasn't just condoned. It was promoted.

Thus, me leaving home. To this day, I deal with my late 70s father who accuses *me* of abusing him with my insinuations of him abusing me. His poor spirits are *my* fault for being an ungrateful and disloyal son. Keep in mind that he's now a oh-so-devoted zealous man of God.

I also get my inspiration from my wife. As much as I would like to think I am strong, she is made of solid impregnable steel. She's tougher than Fort Knox.

posted February 27, 2012 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
Anybody know what Chiron in the 3rd house would be?

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posted February 27, 2012 02:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Ami, I want to tell you my opinion on your true chart. Do you want me to do it here, or privately?

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Here is OK---Thanks Doux I am pretty much an open book but if I don't like it, delete it

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posted February 27, 2012 02:08 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
But that's precisely the point. It was not considered "abuse" in the culture I grew up with. In fact, it was considered "great parenting" and whacking the kids to oblivion is considered the hallmark of a loving, affectionate parent. The fact that we don't understand is a function of our intellectual inferiority and mental xenophobia as "westerners."

It was never hidden. My scars were a mark of proud parenting and shown off. There was never an impetus to "hide" my childhood. It was considered "necessary." It wasn't just condoned. It was promoted.

Thus, me leaving home. To this day, I deal with my late 70s father who accuses *me* of abusing him with my insinuations of him abusing me. His poor spirits are *my* fault for being an ungrateful and disloyal son. Keep in mind that he's now a oh-so-devoted zealous man of God.

I also get my inspiration from my wife. As much as I would like to think I am strong, she is made of solid impregnable steel. She's tougher than Fort Knox.

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posted February 27, 2012 02:09 PM            

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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
Oh ok lol I don't stutter

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Yes Aries. I agree with Doux. Study the 3rd house Sweetie

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posted February 27, 2012 02:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
It can mean that you feel intellectually inferior to others; are afraid to state your opinions; have problems with your siblings; feel that you can't get your point across no matter what you say, like people don't understand you or that somehow there are issues related to communication, expression of ideas, etc.
It can mean a lot of things, but if you know they meaning of the 3rd house, it shouldn't be that hard to figure out what it truly means for you. Keep in mind that
sometimes the wound is so deep that one is unaware of its existence, it can be repressed or ignored/denied.

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Thanks 4 the description. From what you said I feel that it's hard to get my point across ONLY to my mom and brother and other close family. So ya close ppl to me it's weird lol and annoying.

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posted February 27, 2012 02:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Mine is in the 4th. With a recent change in ASC, it went back to the 4th. It was in the 3rd and never really fit. I am wondering if Chirons House is one way we can check on the ASC

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posted February 27, 2012 02:16 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
It would seem that my Chiron in 1st House very closely Conjunct my Pisces ASC (as per the regular birth chart), and loosely Conjunct my Saturn in 12th House, as especially unusually, excessively painful, as has been my childhood, notwithstanding the consternation of my father, who is deeply offended at my insinuations that my childhood was miserable.

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three matters, Pisces Asc is usually has a hard childhood. Saturn conj Asc lacks confidence and then throw chiron in there. It all smacks of wounds that affected your outward expressions --Asc

I have chiron in first and hardly feel it... maybe bit background influence. You would think being Angular it would be more visible and easier to get though..