posted March 23, 2014 04:59 AM
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Originally posted by Orange:
Yes, it seems so. The best would be if both people have a Vertex aspect going each way.I found out that vertex brings false sense of fatedness. It seems fated to you, but it is not, actually. It's a trap. The Vertex person is so smitten, it's hard for them to control the urge. As it comes, so it goes and one is left wondering what had smacked them in the head.
I had someone's Venus right on my Vertex. I didn't notice them in the beginning and then all of sudden - bam, bam! Felt such strong overwhelming urges to be with this person, it was absolutely ridiculous in every way. The Vertex trap held me up for 2 months and then all of sudden I saw the whole situation for what it was - nothing, basically, and I moved on pretty quickly. I have no feelings left. It all seemes like a dream now. Thank God I woke up.
Yup. Stuff like this can happen with Vertex-Axis synastry. Whenever I write one of my Vertex-Axis essays I always want to put some sort of warning in there about how the Vertex Axis in synastry does not guarantee a happy ending.
Yes, Vertex synastry can feel amazing. But it's only part of the picture. There's no one single synastry aspect that guarantees by itself that a certain relationship will happen, or that it will last. We've got to look at the whole picture in terms of the overall synastry, and the realities of the situation at hand (Even if we have 'perfect synastry' with somebody, if they are already married with six kids, it's not a good idea to get involved!). So yeah, if someone has Venus conjunct our Vertex, we might find them compelling, but we need more then that. The person also has to be a good match for us overall. If a person has something on our Vertex Axis but other then that there's not much else good going on in the synastry, it can lead to disillusionment when we finally realize there's no real depth to the profound feelings we initially experienced.
I can see how synastry aspects to the Vertex Axis can be like a false promise if the synastry in general is really only mediocre.
The unrequited thing can be true with lop-sided Vertex synastry as well. The person with their Vertex aspected can potentially see the planet/point person as more significant in their life then they really are, especially if the attraction is not reciprocated in the planet/point person's chart. When our Vertex is touched in synastry, the person touching it can seem like they are fitting some type of dream ideal that we have, or that they are waking us up to what our ideals should be. So there is a danger that one could over idealize a person who touches the Vertex Axis in synastry. If they do not also have their Vertex Axis touched by us, or at least have their love houses influenced by our chart (Our planets in their 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, or our planets in aspect to the rulers of their 5th, 7th, and 8th houses) they may honestly be miffed as to why we think they are such a big deal.
Vertex synastry going both ways is probably the best scenario. Then both people will see the other as being 'significant' some way, in terms of realizing a dream, or finding the right path in life.
However, while mutual Vertex synastry is ideal, it's not essential for attraction to go both ways.
Now... Attraction can occur in synastry in a variety of ways (in terms of us being able to identify someone else as being our 'type'). As I mentioned before, if we put our planets in a love interest's 5th, 7th, or 8th houses, or strongly aspect the rulers of these houses, then this person will likely be attracted to us even if we don't aspect their Vertex Axis at all. This is how it's possible for attraction to go both ways even if only one partner has their Vertex Axis aspected.
Actually, I'd say that mutual 5th, 7th, and 8th house synastry between partners is much more important then mutual Vertex synastry. The Vertex stuff can feel profound and amazing, but it's more like the cherry on top of an Icecream Sundae, then an essential ingredient to the dessert. An extra nice bonus that makes something seem special. Attraction can occur without it. Personally, I love, love Vertex synastry, however I also understand that it's not the only way to be attracted to someone synastry-wise.
Unrequited love tends to occur when we have our Vertex Axis aspected by someone, or our 5th, 7th, or 8th houses strongly influenced by someone, and we don't do the same for them. As in, we don't aspect their Vertex, or strongly influence their love houses. Even we have Venus conjunct Mars with such a person, they are still not able to recognize us an fitting their relationship ideals.
Our relationship ideals are shown by the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, the Vertex Axis, and the some extent the asteroid Juno.
Vertex Axis: Shows the qualities in others that unconsciously attracted to, and others who aspect this Axis wake us up to this attraction. Synastry to the Vertex Axis can feel like an ideal of ours is being realized due to knowing the other person (even if beforehand we didn't even know we had this ideal).
The 5th, 7th, and 8th houses: Show the style of treatment we are attracted to in the areas of flirting and romance (The 5th house), affection and companionship (The 7th house), and private intimacy and trust (The 8th house). If people influence these houses via synastry to the rulers, or house overlays, they match with our preferences in these areas.
Aspects to the rulers generate chemistry or sparks. Hard apsects are not ideal but they at least generate an awareness of the other person in a certain kind of way.
Planetary overlays, and symbolism matches, make someone match our ideas of how our mate should act and treat us. This is so for planetary overlays for obvious reasons. A symbolism match is when a person's natal chart matches the symbolism of a 'love house'. For example, if you have Jupiter in the 7th house you might be attracted to people with Sagittarius or a strong Jupiter in their chart, even if such a person actually has nothing in your 7th house. They can still give you the 'feeling' of your 7th house though the way they express their personality.
Note: For overlays it's best if the planet sitting in a partner's 'love house' actually aspects their chart in someway. Otherwise they might not feel it very strongly on an energetic level. Overlays show the areas of life we can potentially influence for a person, but planetary aspects allow them to actually feel this influence. If no aspects are present there may be little to no feelings in response to our planet in their 'love house'.
Juno: Shows what we need from a partner in order to feel ready to commit to them. Being attracted to someone, and finding them charming is nice, but we also need to know that we can trust them and depend on their loyalty, as well as see ourselves with them for the long-term. The sign/house/aspects of Juno show what look for in a serious relationship commitment. Positive Juno synastry supports and encourages such commitments.
I did an entire thread on the topic of requited Vs unrequited love as seen via synastry. Here's the link if anyone is interested.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/216505.html
Oh yeah, and I also wanted to point out that I see the Vertex Axis as just that. An Axis. Like the Asc/Dsc, Mc/Ic, and the Moon's Nodes. When looking at an Axis we also take into account what the rulers of the Axis are doing. If we wanted to know about our marriage we'd look at the 7th house ruler. For the Vertex Axis, why not look at the rulers of the signs on either ends of this Axis for more info on how seemingly 'fated', syncronistic type experiences can enter our lives.
I think it's entirely possible for a person with a planet conjunct the ruler of our Vertex, or Antivertex, to have an effect on us similar to what we'd experience if the planet were actually conjunct the Vertex, or Antivertex, itself. This is definitely worth investigating.
And, I the don't buy into the notion that only conjunctions and oppositons work on the Vertex Axis in synastry. If we were looking at the Asc/Dsc in synastry we'd most certainly take into account a trine/sextile from the partner's Venus to this Axis. I think it's the same with the Vertex Axis in synastry. A trine, sextile, square, or even semi-square, to the Vertex Axis is still something which can be felt. It might not be as potent as the conjunction or oppositon, but it's worth looking into. As it happens, I made a life-changing choice when the Moon was transiting though Capricorn in a trine/sextile to my Taurus/Scorpio Vertex Axis.
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