posted March 16, 2012 12:03 PM            

Doesn't that explain a lot?

Also, her Mars is singleton, conjunct our father's sun-Mars conjunction. His Pluto is conjunct her sun/moon/merc stellium. His Neptune is conjunct her Venus.

posted March 16, 2012 12:13 PM            

But the lights in my house keep going on and off as I type now, for no apparent reason.

This happened regularly after each of my parents died, sometimes VERY dramatically, like the touch-me lamp would switch on and go through all its levels of brightness. Once when I was talking aloud to my dead father, the whole house shut down after I asked a question, and when I said, "Dad?" everything came back on.

Leo rising here, so I cannot help sharing.

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posted March 16, 2012 02:17 PM            

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Back to mental illness. I have a person in mind. She has an exact cazimi of the Sun conjunct Mercury. It is an exact conjunction. The cazimi allows for up to 5 degrees

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and this aspect alone does not confer mental problems either..

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Originally Posted by Olivia on astrologyweekly.com
If it's within 17 minutes of the Sun, it's cazimi.
Basically what happens in cazimi is the planet is considered to be 'sitting in the lap of the king' and is given great power.

If it's further than that, and up to 8-1/2 degrees away, it's combust, even if it's in a different sign.

From 8-1/2 to 15 degrees away it's under the beams, which means it's slightly weakened, but not as much as combustion would weaken it.

In combustion, the planet's power is transferred to the Sun, so will always act in service to the Sun - which is likely to come with one great gift.

Merc/Sun combust is often the sign of a very good writer, for example, but one can get awfully caught up in one's own opinions to the point of not listening to others, Venus combust in Taurus is often the guy who can bed just about any woman but can't establish a permanent relationship, Venus combust in Libra is often a gorgeous woman trapped in a miserable marriage, and so forth.
Jupiter could give wealth, make you a good barrister or a judge, possibly fame, but you might be awfully pompous.
Combust planets for women (any planet) seem to be bad for marriage as a rule, though it doesn't seem to hold true quite so much for men, though it depends on the planet, and I'd definitely still look at it.

A good tutorial on cazimi versus combustion is the Book or Scroll of Ester (which may or may not be in your bible depending on what version you've got). Consider Ester to be cazimi, and a whole lot of other folks in the story combust (even Haman goes combust eventually!). Read in that light you might get a whole new appreciation of biblical literature as well.

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“For technical purposes, in Western astrology, most ancient and medieval authorities considered a planet combust or burnt when its position was within 5-8 degrees on either side of the Sun. However, a planet will continue to be weakened by the Sun until it has elongated by 15-17 degrees from it. (Lilly says 17 degrees on p. 113 of Christian Astrology.) This positioning is said to be under the beams of the Sun, and although it may be stronger than being combust, it will still cause a noticeable weakening in a planet's effectiveness.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combust_(astrological_aspect)

“Venus combust may take away the strength to achieve, but when in a particularly close conjunction with the Sun it produces the condition sometimes termed nymphomania. Mars combust is always the man who fights for what he wants; and so with each planet according to its intrinsic nature.
Wilson says "there seems manifest a difference in genius and propensities of natives, according to the distance of their Mercury from the Sun; and that those whose Mercury is combust have little wit or solid judgment, though they will persevere in business and frequently with good success.” http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/combust.php

Cazimi/combust
“So for a modern astrologer, Mars either cazimi or combust the sun is strengthened because Mars is considered fiery and hot, and thus benefits from meeting the fiery heat of the sun. But cold and dry Saturn would weaken when either combust or cazimi, because the nature of the sun is damaging to Saturn. Modern astrologers usually make no distinction between a planet being combust the sun or cazimi.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combust_(astrological_aspect)

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posted March 16, 2012 02:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I just realized that my sister's Pluto and Uranus are conjunct, and they are trine my sun within 3 degrees.

Doesn't that explain a lot?

Also, her Mars is singleton, conjunct our father's sun-Mars conjunction. His Pluto is conjunct her sun/moon/merc stellium. His Neptune is conjunct her Venus.

Does anyone see something potentially scary with that?

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A trine would be an easy flow of energy, Faith with respect to your first example. That would not account for a problem with someone imo. I bet you have other things if you have a strained relationship.

Your father and sister have a major OUCH

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posted March 16, 2012 02:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Pretty rude topic, so I'll give you a response that might prompt your "ignoring."

Do you get paid to start threads on this board or something? I sure hope you are, because you seem to start a majority of them and your post count is through the roof! Talk about "insane."

You seem obsessed with mental illness. Maybe you should find a healthy outlet for it by working towards a degree in psychology rather than trolling.

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I see you point, Ami also seems obsessed with 12th house planets and chiron to. thread after thread on the same topic over and over....

mind you Ami Libra Asc could make a good counsellor...

posted March 16, 2012 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks Ami, I had to look up cazimi
http://www.auxmaillesgodefroy.com/cazimi_planets

I was thinking of my sister when I clicked on this. Sure enough, your description fits her eerily well: both the aspects and her condition.

Exactly.

I don't know her birth time but she definitely is a Cancer sun with a Cancer moon (could be a cazimi) and her Mercury is only 3 degrees from her sun.

The stellium squares her Saturn in Aries.

She's extremely creative and brilliant in some ways, but she is bipolar with a long history of mental illness.

Edit: Making matters worse (?) her Neptune is trine her Cancer stellium.

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medical astrology is very much an *eggshell area* and like anything their can only be trends or suggestions..

Medical astrology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_astrology http://medicalastrologybyeileennauman.blogspot.com/2009/03/inconjunct-aspect-and-yod.html#uds-search-results http://medicalastrologybyeileennauman.blogspot.com/2009/02/moon-and-medical-astrology.html http://www.mihira.com/mihfeb99/MEDASTRO.HTM http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13065&postcount=1 http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/MedicalAstrology29.0.htm
medical associations for each sign http://www.vernoncoleman.com/astro.htm

posted March 16, 2012 02:24 PM            

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Originally posted by mercuranian:
interesting. my mothers sun and mercury are conjunct / cazimi.? i dont know what time she was born but if it was around noon - her moon would be there too. (capricorn). she has borderline personality disorder-(undiagnosed professionally of course), cause in her eyes nothing is her fault, its everyone else's of course

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LOL Mercurian. Don't they always

However, I am serious about the cazimi being a big issue!

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posted March 16, 2012 02:25 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
I see you point, Ami also seems obsessed with 12th house planets and chiron to. thread after thread on the same topic over and over....

mind you Ami Libra Asc could make a good counsellor...

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posted March 16, 2012 02:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Could you please define "mental ill"?
Are you talking about sociopathic / psychopathic tendencies or about inborn mental "illness" like the Down syndrome for example. (I put "illness" into quotation marks, because it is strictly speaking not an illness).

Ahhhh finally, I thought it was around 15"minutes myself. I've always seen cazimi as a GOOD thing and never even thought or wanted to connect it to mental illness. I think this is way off track personally...

BTW you are probably talking about a conjunction to Sun, but CAZIMI really is only the conjunction with an orb of up to 00°17 and the planet is traditionally considered to be strengthened and fortified by being "in the heart of the sun".

Conjunctions of a planet to the Sun,t hat exceed these 17 minutes of arc are called "combust", and it is said that the planet is burned by the Sun.

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posted March 16, 2012 02:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I don't mean an organic condition like Downs. I mean a condition like NPD(narcissim), BPD, bipolar or else just really struggling with your emotions and not diagnosed with any illness. That could be included too such as very low self esteem and an impaired image of oneself. That is what I mean by my usage of the term.

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posted March 16, 2012 02:32 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
I see you point, Ami also seems obsessed with 12th house planets and chiron to. thread after thread on the same topic over and over....

mind you Ami Libra Asc could make a good counsellor...

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"Obsessed" is unkind. Talking about Ami as if she isn't right here is unkind. You are very prolific and repetitious yourself, and have defended your right to sustain this trend, in the interest of helping others.

There should be NO gripe from you about this.

posted March 16, 2012 02:33 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
BUT what made you connect the dots to cazimi and illness??

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The cazimi is the Sun burning up the Mercury. This is making the Mercury not able to do it's thing which is to think. Mercury likes to detach.It likes to think in a way that is not attached to the ego/Sun. Mercury likes to be purely cerebral.The cazimi does not allow this as it puts the Sun's fire on it. In a word, the ego(Sun) is too close to the mind(mercury). So, the person cannot detach from his ego. He cannot step back and evaluate. Hence, it is much harder to have a good emotional stability as you jump at every slight or offense imo

Why do you have it Saggi lol

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posted March 16, 2012 02:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
"Obsessed" is unkind. Talking about Ami as if she isn't right here is unkind. You are very prolific and repetitious yourself, and have defended your right to sustain this trend, in the interest of helping others.

There should be NO gripe from you about this.

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posted March 16, 2012 02:36 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
medical astrology is very much an *eggshell area* and like anything their can only be trends or suggestions..

Medical astrology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_astrology http://medicalastrologybyeileennauman.blogspot.com/2009/03/inconju nct-aspect-and-yod.html#uds-search-results http://medicalastrologybyeileennauman.blogspot.com/2009/02/moon-and-medical-astrolog y.html http://www.mihira.com/mihfeb99/MEDASTRO.HTM http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13065&postcount=1 http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/MedicalAstrology29.0.htm
medical associations for each sign http://www.vernoncoleman.com/astro.htm

Books on medical -- Diane Cramer's Dictionary of Medical Astrology

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Yes, I do have to check that book out sometime.

Listen to me, Saggi. My sister is clinically insane. Maybe it is mere coincidence that her sun, moon, and Mercury are conjunct, square Saturn. But I am not "walking on eggshells" when I am talking about MY sister and agreeing to the fact that she cannot get any "detachment" or objectivity to save her from herself. I'm just stating the facts.

posted March 16, 2012 02:36 PM            

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Originally posted by maira:
Completely off topic: Ami, I have come to realize that it takes abuse for one to become an abuser. So I think that even though the image that she projects is not consistent with abuse, or even if the external circumstances do not show that, she [b]felt abused.
In the same manner, I also believe that people who were not loved (usually by their first and primary caregiver) are incapable of loving and so on.[/B]

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I would have to disagree with you here as being loving to someone is a natural state, it doesn't need to be learned from childhood. You can give and receive love from the family dog or pet. Just holding and stroking dog is a loving act and animals love you back unconditionally...

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posted March 16, 2012 02:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You got a point Maira! Guess what? Now, that I have my original ASC, I am an unaspected Moon like you lol

My moon conjuncts Mars--10 degrees
It trines Saturn 9 degrees but I think this could count as Unaspected

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posted March 16, 2012 02:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Yes, I do have to check that book out sometime.

Listen to me, Saggi. My sister is clinically insane. Maybe it is mere coincidence that her sun, moon, and Mercury are conjunct, square Saturn. But I am not "walking on eggshells" when I am talking about MY sister and agreeing to the fact that she cannot get any "detachment" or objectivity to save her from herself. I'm just stating the facts.

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Do you know the orbs of any of these in your sisters chart or could you put it up, Faith?

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posted March 16, 2012 02:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

A trine would be an easy flow of energy, Faith with respect to your first example. That would not account for a problem with someone imo. I bet you have other things if you have a strained relationship.

Your father and sister have a major OUCH

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It wouldn't be so strained if I didn't LOVE my sister so much. If I didn't feel so close to her and yet, she is mentally "out there." So for most of my life I've been figuratively banging my head against a wall, trying to fix her.

She's nine years older than me but treated me like I am the older sister, for as long as I can remember.

As for her and my Dad, they became emotionally enmeshed over the years, almost like a "lethal enmeshment." They gave strangers the impression that they were husband and wife.

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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
Namaste to everyone

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God bless you, ariesdragon. NAMASTE!