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Ami Anne
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posted March 19, 2012 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Saturn in the 2nd House in square Pluto in the 10th House in fixed signs. It is a 9 degree square. When Jerry described Pluto square Saturn it made sense but it is 9 degrees. What do you think? Thanks so much.If you could describe this square in as much detail as you could I would appreciate it, too, as I lose objectivity when it is I. Anyone have this square or had contact with someone who did?

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posted March 19, 2012 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This aspect suggests someone who is hard working then add pluto obssessive nature, if not kept in check can be ruthless in business matters. So do you identify with this?

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Saturn square Pluto
Saturn square Pluto can indicate self-will and persistence to the point of ruthlessness. There is often exposure to some very difficult emotional experiences, and these may set up a defensive stance that makes the ability to forgive and forget hard to maintain. People with this aspect have the ability to perform difficult work and possess great commitment. Self-restraint can be almost obsessive at times and when motivated by a challenge, their drive and endurance is remarkable. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/saturnaspects.html#saspl

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Saturn in Square, Quincunx, Opposition to Pluto

This is a lifetime where you will develop strength of will and the power to face obstacles head on. Basically your outlook on life is earnest and you'd do well to resist the temptation to wallow in pessimism and self pity. Take heart; this aspect confers the necessary willpower to rise above difficult situations that would make most others run for the hills. You can be a mover and a shaker as long as you retain the ability to be adaptable, humble and to heed the wisdom of those who have already walked the tough road before you. This is a positive aspect for success through perseverance and you may someday point the way for others who have trials to master. http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectssaturn.htm



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posted March 19, 2012 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not ruthless at all but cancer moon is not.I think 9 degrees may be too much to feel anything but a tinge. I would like to hear people's personal experience with this aspect.

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posted March 19, 2012 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami do you ever think about Solar Arc directions?

Age 9 is when this manifested in your life.

Yes it's felt.

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posted March 19, 2012 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Ami do you ever think about Solar Arc directions?

Age 9 is when this manifested in your life.

Yes it's felt.


Age 9? How do you get that? I never did solar arcs. At age 9, it was really traumatic as I got my period. I had a woman's body, all developed and I was a little girl. It was awful for me. Would this show that?

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posted March 19, 2012 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the natal chart, that's why I say it doesn't matter what orbs are because by SA direction they WILL aspect each other in your life and it will manifest.


You say they are 9 degrees apart. 1 orb for a year they aspect each other exact at age 9.

What houses do they rule?

I have Mars square Saturn/Uranus but the orb is 6 degrees away. Something happened to me at age 6 that was awful.

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posted March 19, 2012 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. I don't know anything about this.It is an all new area of study.Ok Pluto Rules the 2nd House as Scorpio is on the cusp . Saturn rules the 4th house as Cap is on the cusp. Age 9 was awful for me as I went from a little girl to full breasts.

In those days, it was not what it was now.It was awful lol

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posted March 19, 2012 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree that it is felt...I dont agree with this strict orb bs, its the power of the planets in your own natal and your souls evolution. We are not all on the same evolved path and some feel planets/aspects much stronger than others.

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posted March 19, 2012 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You move the planets 1 degree for every year of your life.

So for example your born with sun 0 libra on september 22 1980 if you want to see what is going to happen when you turn 21, you look up the chart for 21 days after your birthdate which in this case would be october 13th 1980.

One orb for a year applies to each planet with Solar Arcs.

Planets move one orb, each year, for each planet. Then you can see which ones become exact and which don't. And you can do Solar Arc to Natal thats the most telling.

So for you your Solar Arc Saturn aspected your Natal Pluto exact at age 9.

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posted March 19, 2012 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay 4th house makes perfect sense.

See orbs do matter, the most exact aspects will always manifest in your life as long as you live. The wider orbs those are reserved for predestined times in your life.

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posted March 19, 2012 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Okay 4th house makes perfect sense.

See orbs do matter, the most exact aspects will always manifest in your life as long as you live. The wider orbs those are reserved for predestined times in your life.



Is this how rectification is done

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posted March 19, 2012 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep.

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posted March 19, 2012 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Yep.

I appreciate your help athenegoddess. Thank you!

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posted March 19, 2012 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome.

What happened to me at age 6: I was such a loving little girl I remember being at the store with my dads friends wife and her daughter. She bought me some stickers and I was excited about them. We went back to her house and all I can remember was that I went to the back yard and there was a dog and I was like 'look doggy, I got these stickers aren't they cute'! Then, the dog bit me and I was bleeding a ton. Had to get stitches.

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posted March 20, 2012 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have a Saturn in the 2nd House in square Pluto in the 10th House in fixed signs. It is a 9 degree square. When Jerry described Pluto square Saturn it made sense but it is 9 degrees. What do you think? Thanks so much.If you could describe this square in as much detail as you could I would appreciate it, too, as I lose objectivity when it is I. Anyone have this square or had contact with someone who did?



The 9 degree square is not felt much on its own; there might be other indicators of the same energy, like a parallel, a midpoint, or like mentioned Solar Arcs and secondary progressions.


SOLAR ARCS are REALLY strong, but they have a limited timeframe.


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posted March 20, 2012 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami,

about rectification.
I am doing it like Noel Tyl suggested in his books "Solar Arcs" (a great one btw).
Which means that I am using mainly Solar Arcs within 30 minutes of orb (for an event) in conjunction/Opposition/square/semisquare/sesisquare to the ASC or MC. As these are the times that usually stand out in one`s life.

Of course Solar Arcs to planets can be very important, too, as you have seen it yourself. In that case I ALWAYS check for the houses they rule and the houses they are posited in.

my SA Pluto had been squaring Saturn half a year before my brother was being born.


When SA ASC had come into conjunction to my Neptune, I nearly drowned in a swimmingpool.

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posted March 20, 2012 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the square between those two.

I read it means someone has a hard time breaking psychological patterns and it's very difficult to change. Especially when Saturn and Pluto are in fixed signs. It's a difficult aspect to have I think, but it's generational so other factors in the chart can modify its expression.

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posted March 20, 2012 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Ami,

about rectification.
I am doing it like Noel Tyl suggested in his books "Solar Arcs" (a great one btw).
Which means that I am using mainly Solar Arcs within 30 minutes of orb (for an event) in conjunction/Opposition/square/semisquare/sesisquare to the ASC or MC. As these are the times that usually stand out in one`s life.

Of course Solar Arcs to planets can be very important, too, as you have seen it yourself. In that case I ALWAYS check for the houses they rule and the houses they are posited in.

my SA Pluto had been squaring Saturn half a year before my brother was being born.


When SA ASC had come into conjunction to my Neptune, I nearly drowned in a swimmingpool.



Man Ceri
Last night I was getting excited thinking of a new part of Astrology opening up.
May I ask you or someone who knows like athenegoddess something?


Ok I was thinking about how many crucial conjunctions I have at 8 degrees. These are my borderline Unaspected Planets which we have discussed *sigh*

Anyway, my point is that these would point to a trauma at 4 years old--right?

I think that was when I had my trauma.
Am I doing the math right? Do you take two planets and go to the midpoint?
Thanks so much!

After that, do you check houses?

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posted March 20, 2012 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Age 9? How do you get that? I never did solar arcs. At age 9, it was really traumatic as I got my period. I had a woman's body, all developed and I was a little girl. It was awful for me. Would this show that?



I would say age 8, looking at solar arc MC onto natal mars..

Basic astrology forum, learn solar arcs http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000665.html
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posted March 20, 2012 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Ami,

about rectification.
I am doing it like Noel Tyl suggested in his books "Solar Arcs" (a great one btw).
Which means that I am using mainly Solar Arcs within 30 minutes of orb (for an event) in conjunction/Opposition/square/semisquare/sesisquare to the ASC or MC. As these are the times that usually stand out in one`s life.

Of course Solar Arcs to planets can be very important, too, as you have seen it yourself. In that case I ALWAYS check for the houses they rule and the houses they are posited in.

my SA Pluto had been squaring Saturn half a year before my brother was being born.


When SA ASC had come into conjunction to my Neptune, I nearly drowned in a swimmingpool.


Basic astrology forum --How to Rectify your TOB is none is avail using Solar Arcs http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000684.html

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posted March 20, 2012 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri
I am gonna get the book today. Thanks Saggi.

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posted March 20, 2012 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for strawberrysundae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ceri
I am gonna get the book today. Thanks Saggi.


I have e-mailed you ami. Thank you.

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posted March 20, 2012 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Sweetie. Thanks for telling me so I will look for it.

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posted March 20, 2012 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for strawberrysundae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok Sweetie. Thanks for telling me so I will look for it.


Thank u

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posted March 20, 2012 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Man Ceri
Last night I was getting excited thinking of a new part of Astrology opening up.
May I ask you or someone who knows like athenegoddess something?

Ok I was thinking about how many crucial conjunctions I have at 8 degrees. These are my borderline Unaspected Planets which we have discussed *sigh*

Anyway, my point is that these would point to a trauma at 4 years old--right?


Ami,

you can do the Solar ARc chart for any date on astrocom, under the option progressions, transits and directions (direction is another name for Solar Arc).

An 8 degree arc often relates to the 7th or 8th year of life. But to be certain you can check astro.com.

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