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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 29403 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 19, 2012 06:32 PM
I have a Saturn in the 2nd House in square Pluto in the 10th House in fixed signs. It is a 9 degree square. When Jerry described Pluto square Saturn it made sense but it is 9 degrees. What do you think? Thanks so much.If you could describe this square in as much detail as you could I would appreciate it, too, as I lose objectivity when it is I. Anyone have this square or had contact with someone who did?------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 2971 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 19, 2012 06:45 PM
This aspect suggests someone who is hard working then add pluto obssessive nature, if not kept in check can be ruthless in business matters. So do you identify with this? quote:
Saturn square Pluto Saturn square Pluto can indicate self-will and persistence to the point of ruthlessness. There is often exposure to some very difficult emotional experiences, and these may set up a defensive stance that makes the ability to forgive and forget hard to maintain. People with this aspect have the ability to perform difficult work and possess great commitment. Self-restraint can be almost obsessive at times and when motivated by a challenge, their drive and endurance is remarkable. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/saturnaspects.html#saspl
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Saturn in Square, Quincunx, Opposition to Pluto This is a lifetime where you will develop strength of will and the power to face obstacles head on. Basically your outlook on life is earnest and you'd do well to resist the temptation to wallow in pessimism and self pity. Take heart; this aspect confers the necessary willpower to rise above difficult situations that would make most others run for the hills. You can be a mover and a shaker as long as you retain the ability to be adaptable, humble and to heed the wisdom of those who have already walked the tough road before you. This is a positive aspect for success through perseverance and you may someday point the way for others who have trials to master. http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectssaturn.htm
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 29403 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 19, 2012 08:30 PM
I am not ruthless at all but cancer moon is not.I think 9 degrees may be too much to feel anything but a tinge. I would like to hear people's personal experience with this aspect.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1103 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted March 19, 2012 09:04 PM
Ami do you ever think about Solar Arc directions?Age 9 is when this manifested in your life. Yes it's felt. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 29403 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 19, 2012 09:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: Ami do you ever think about Solar Arc directions?Age 9 is when this manifested in your life. Yes it's felt.
Age 9? How do you get that? I never did solar arcs. At age 9, it was really traumatic as I got my period. I had a woman's body, all developed and I was a little girl. It was awful for me. Would this show that? ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1103 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted March 19, 2012 09:24 PM
In the natal chart, that's why I say it doesn't matter what orbs are because by SA direction they WILL aspect each other in your life and it will manifest. You say they are 9 degrees apart. 1 orb for a year they aspect each other exact at age 9.
What houses do they rule? I have Mars square Saturn/Uranus but the orb is 6 degrees away. Something happened to me at age 6 that was awful. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 29403 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 19, 2012 09:33 PM
Wow. I don't know anything about this.It is an all new area of study.Ok Pluto Rules the 2nd House as Scorpio is on the cusp . Saturn rules the 4th house as Cap is on the cusp. Age 9 was awful for me as I went from a little girl to full breasts.In those days, it was not what it was now.It was awful lol ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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scrappydog Knowflake Posts: 812 From: Texas Registered: May 2009
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posted March 19, 2012 09:34 PM
I agree that it is felt...I dont agree with this strict orb bs, its the power of the planets in your own natal and your souls evolution. We are not all on the same evolved path and some feel planets/aspects much stronger than others.IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1103 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted March 19, 2012 09:38 PM
You move the planets 1 degree for every year of your life. So for example your born with sun 0 libra on september 22 1980 if you want to see what is going to happen when you turn 21, you look up the chart for 21 days after your birthdate which in this case would be october 13th 1980. One orb for a year applies to each planet with Solar Arcs. Planets move one orb, each year, for each planet. Then you can see which ones become exact and which don't. And you can do Solar Arc to Natal thats the most telling. So for you your Solar Arc Saturn aspected your Natal Pluto exact at age 9. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1103 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted March 19, 2012 09:39 PM
Okay 4th house makes perfect sense. See orbs do matter, the most exact aspects will always manifest in your life as long as you live. The wider orbs those are reserved for predestined times in your life. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 29403 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 19, 2012 10:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: Okay 4th house makes perfect sense. See orbs do matter, the most exact aspects will always manifest in your life as long as you live. The wider orbs those are reserved for predestined times in your life.
Is this how rectification is done
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1103 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted March 19, 2012 10:09 PM
Yep.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 29403 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 19, 2012 10:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: Yep.
I appreciate your help athenegoddess. Thank you! ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1103 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted March 19, 2012 10:24 PM
You're welcome.What happened to me at age 6: I was such a loving little girl I remember being at the store with my dads friends wife and her daughter. She bought me some stickers and I was excited about them. We went back to her house and all I can remember was that I went to the back yard and there was a dog and I was like 'look doggy, I got these stickers aren't they cute'! Then, the dog bit me and I was bleeding a ton. Had to get stitches. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 2384 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 20, 2012 02:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I have a Saturn in the 2nd House in square Pluto in the 10th House in fixed signs. It is a 9 degree square. When Jerry described Pluto square Saturn it made sense but it is 9 degrees. What do you think? Thanks so much.If you could describe this square in as much detail as you could I would appreciate it, too, as I lose objectivity when it is I. Anyone have this square or had contact with someone who did?
The 9 degree square is not felt much on its own; there might be other indicators of the same energy, like a parallel, a midpoint, or like mentioned Solar Arcs and secondary progressions.
SOLAR ARCS are REALLY strong, but they have a limited timeframe.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 2384 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 20, 2012 07:39 AM
Ami,about rectification. I am doing it like Noel Tyl suggested in his books "Solar Arcs" (a great one btw). Which means that I am using mainly Solar Arcs within 30 minutes of orb (for an event) in conjunction/Opposition/square/semisquare/sesisquare to the ASC or MC. As these are the times that usually stand out in one`s life. Of course Solar Arcs to planets can be very important, too, as you have seen it yourself. In that case I ALWAYS check for the houses they rule and the houses they are posited in. my SA Pluto had been squaring Saturn half a year before my brother was being born. When SA ASC had come into conjunction to my Neptune, I nearly drowned in a swimmingpool.
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 1216 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 20, 2012 08:07 AM
I have the square between those two.I read it means someone has a hard time breaking psychological patterns and it's very difficult to change. Especially when Saturn and Pluto are in fixed signs. It's a difficult aspect to have I think, but it's generational so other factors in the chart can modify its expression. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 29403 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 20, 2012 08:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Ami,about rectification. I am doing it like Noel Tyl suggested in his books "Solar Arcs" (a great one btw). Which means that I am using mainly Solar Arcs within 30 minutes of orb (for an event) in conjunction/Opposition/square/semisquare/sesisquare to the ASC or MC. As these are the times that usually stand out in one`s life. Of course Solar Arcs to planets can be very important, too, as you have seen it yourself. In that case I ALWAYS check for the houses they rule and the houses they are posited in. my SA Pluto had been squaring Saturn half a year before my brother was being born. When SA ASC had come into conjunction to my Neptune, I nearly drowned in a swimmingpool.
Man Ceri Last night I was getting excited thinking of a new part of Astrology opening up. May I ask you or someone who knows like athenegoddess something?
Ok I was thinking about how many crucial conjunctions I have at 8 degrees. These are my borderline Unaspected Planets which we have discussed *sigh*
Anyway, my point is that these would point to a trauma at 4 years old--right? I think that was when I had my trauma. Am I doing the math right? Do you take two planets and go to the midpoint? Thanks so much! After that, do you check houses? ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 2971 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 20, 2012 04:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Age 9? How do you get that? I never did solar arcs. At age 9, it was really traumatic as I got my period. I had a woman's body, all developed and I was a little girl. It was awful for me. Would this show that?
I would say age 8, looking at solar arc MC onto natal mars..Basic astrology forum, learn solar arcs http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000665.html To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology…. IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 2971 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 20, 2012 04:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Ami,about rectification. I am doing it like Noel Tyl suggested in his books "Solar Arcs" (a great one btw). Which means that I am using mainly Solar Arcs within 30 minutes of orb (for an event) in conjunction/Opposition/square/semisquare/sesisquare to the ASC or MC. As these are the times that usually stand out in one`s life. Of course Solar Arcs to planets can be very important, too, as you have seen it yourself. In that case I ALWAYS check for the houses they rule and the houses they are posited in. my SA Pluto had been squaring Saturn half a year before my brother was being born. When SA ASC had come into conjunction to my Neptune, I nearly drowned in a swimmingpool.
Basic astrology forum --How to Rectify your TOB is none is avail using Solar Arcs http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000684.html
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 29403 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 20, 2012 04:24 PM
Ceri I am gonna get the book today. Thanks Saggi.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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strawberrysundae Knowflake Posts: 80 From: PlutoVenusMars Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 20, 2012 04:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Ceri I am gonna get the book today. Thanks Saggi.
I have e-mailed you ami. Thank you. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 29403 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 20, 2012 04:31 PM
Ok Sweetie. Thanks for telling me so I will look for it.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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strawberrysundae Knowflake Posts: 80 From: PlutoVenusMars Registered: Mar 2012
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posted March 20, 2012 04:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Ok Sweetie. Thanks for telling me so I will look for it.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 2384 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 20, 2012 04:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Man Ceri Last night I was getting excited thinking of a new part of Astrology opening up. May I ask you or someone who knows like athenegoddess something?Ok I was thinking about how many crucial conjunctions I have at 8 degrees. These are my borderline Unaspected Planets which we have discussed *sigh* Anyway, my point is that these would point to a trauma at 4 years old--right?
Ami, you can do the Solar ARc chart for any date on astrocom, under the option progressions, transits and directions (direction is another name for Solar Arc). An 8 degree arc often relates to the 7th or 8th year of life. But to be certain you can check astro.com. IP: Logged |