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Topic: Jon Hamm Says He'd Be A "Terrible" Dad
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T
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posted March 27, 2012 05:26 PM
  
oh and Venus in Gemini and Mars in Leo.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 10, 2012 02:41 PM
I am a member of a "childfree" group on FB and I'm currently getting birth info from its members. So far of the two people who've provided me with their birth info (including time and place of birth), both have their fifth house in Aquarius, one has a Sagittarius moon (and sun in the 10th house, her sense of purpose comes from her career by her own admission), and the other has sun in Sagittarius, moon in Aquarius.As mentioned, I have Venus in Aquarius, Mars in Sagittarius, and I also have fifth house in Sagittarius (Saturn in the fifth house). IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 10, 2012 02:45 PM
I am telling you guys, there is something to this - the combination of Aquarius and Sagittarius - especially in houses involving kids or fatherhood (10th for men) gives CF tendencies to people.IP: Logged |
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posted April 10, 2012 02:58 PM
I have Moon in Aquarius in the 5th exactly square Uranus in Scorpio in the 2nd. Both placements scream that I value the freedom to be my own person first and foremost, and I feel that being a mother would greatly compromise that. I also have Vesta in Aquarius in the 5th. I read that where Vesta rests in the chart is the area of life that is sublimated.When I first ventured into the working world, I saw my older coworkers having to go back home to a houseful of kids and responsibilities while I had the whole rest of the evening off to do as I please. They saw my lifestyle and one of them (older man undergoing midlife crisis, apparently) even voiced his envy, saying how he wished he was young and free like me and take off on a whim to anywhere in the world without a single responsibility to tend to. It's a freedom that I will forever appreciate and hold on to. No room in my life to consider anyone else's happiness, especially not a child's...too heavy a responsibility. According to Pullen, Sagittarius is the strongest energy in my chart and I also have it on my IC. quote:
Originally posted by T:
& I do love kids. Most people don't believe that when you say you don't want any.I like other people's kids & they seem to LOVE me too. Somehow I turn into a human jungle-gym, or "ride giver" to the little ones. I can get crazy with them. Just don't want any of my own. Any other childfree people feel the same? I love the little devils, but don't want one of my own....
*waves*I love the fun part where I can read them books, play make-believe, let them show me all their toys, draw pictures with them, etc...then turn them over to their Mommy and Daddy for the responsibility of feeding and clothing and cleaning up after them hahaha IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 10, 2012 02:59 PM
Recognizing that one doesn't have the qualities to be a good father, shouldn't one desire to acquire said qualities rather than be resigned to the fact that it shouldn't ever happen?IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted April 10, 2012 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Recognizing that one doesn't have the qualities to be a good father, shouldn't one desire to acquire said qualities rather than be resigned to the fact that it shouldn't ever happen?
I don't think so. It may end up that he could be a great father, but it isn't for everyone. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 10, 2012 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Recognizing that one doesn't have the qualities to be a good father, shouldn't one desire to acquire said qualities rather than be resigned to the fact that it shouldn't ever happen?
No. Not necessarily. Not everyone is meant to have kids/is on the same path. If astrology can teach us anything, that is probably the lesson.
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aquaguy91
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posted April 10, 2012 03:07 PM
sagitarius rules my tenth house and i want to have kids,and gemini is on my 5th house cusp,but cancer takes up half of the 5th so that may be why i do want kids.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 10, 2012 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
sagitarius rules my tenth house and i want to have kids,and gemini is on my 5th house cusp,but cancer takes up half of the 5th so that may be why i do want kids.
What planets in the 10th house? My boyfriend has his Saturn in the 10th. I did him a favour converting him to CF, as far as I'm concerned. He would have really struggled with fatherhood. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 10, 2012 03:16 PM
Oh, I missed something - of the two women in the CF group who gave me their birth info, one of them also has Venus in Sagittarius and Mars in Aquarius (the one with the Sag sun and Aqua moon). She is now 41 and never wanted kids.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted April 10, 2012 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
What planets in the 10th house? My boyfriend has his Saturn in the 10th. I did him a favour converting him to CF, as far as I'm concerned. He would have really struggled with fatherhood.
no planets in the 10th IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 10, 2012 03:19 PM
You don't have to have children to have the qualities of a good father. You don't have to be married to have the qualities of a good partner.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 10, 2012 03:22 PM
Hmmm... I don't know that I'd want a mate "fathering" me. I'm sure some women seek that, but I want an egalitarian partnership. I wouldn't do well with that kind of dictatorial-ness.IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 10, 2012 03:23 PM
Nobody's "fathering" you or suggesting that it should be that way! There should be no dictators in any relationship in all directions.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted April 10, 2012 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
You don't have to have children to have the qualities of a good father. You don't have to be married to have the qualities of a good partner.
Agreed, lmao in fact alot of people who are in relationships and have children have no business,because they do not accept the responsibility. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted April 10, 2012 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
You don't have to have children to have the qualities of a good father. You don't have to be married to have the qualities of a good partner.
Agreed, lmao in fact alot of people who are in relationships and have children have no business,because they do not accept the responsibility. IP: Logged |
SmilingHeart
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posted April 10, 2012 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
I am a member of a "childfree" group on FB and I'm currently getting birth info from its members. So far of the two people who've provided me with their birth info (including time and place of birth), both have their fifth house in Aquarius, one has a Sagittarius moon (and sun in the 10th house, her sense of purpose comes from her career by her own admission), and the other has sun in Sagittarius, moon in Aquarius.As mentioned, I have Venus in Aquarius, Mars in Sagittarius, and I also have fifth house in Sagittarius (Saturn in the fifth house).
I would be interested how many planets (and which) are in their 5th and 1st houses.
I think this is also important. IP: Logged |
Maka
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posted April 10, 2012 03:42 PM
No kids for me, I would just be a complete epic fail as a mother, though I'm dating someone with kids now.So..yeah. Venus in Leo 8th house
Mars in Virgo in 9th house. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 10, 2012 04:17 PM
A 3rd CF woman just gave me her birth info. She has Venus in Sagittarius, Mars in Aquarius, and Saturn in the 5th house in Aries.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 10, 2012 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
I would be interested how many planets (and which) are in their 5th and 1st houses.
I think this is also important.
The first woman (with the Sagittarius moon) has Saturn in Gemini in her 9th house. No real aspects in the fifth house.
The second woman (Sag sun/Aqua moon) has her moon in the fifth house square Saturn and Lilith. Both women have fifth house in Aquarius. Third woman (the one with Venus in Sagittarius/Mars in Aquarius, like the second woman) has Saturn in Aries in the 9th house. Her fifth house sign is Taurus. Only fifth house planet or asteroid is Lilith. Her ascendant is Sagittarius. IP: Logged |
pandacake
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posted April 10, 2012 04:27 PM
I have a empty 5th house, not sure whether it's relevant but according to Placidus house placements I've Aquarius in 5th house.The physical process of child bearing and child labor scares me and that's just the beginning of parenthood.  I strongly believe that being a good parent is one of the most difficult yet rewarding challenges there is and there's nothing that I respect more than a competent and loving parent. I'm just not sure whether I'm up for this challenge. For starters I grew up in a unstable environment and having a Pluto Moon I will -at all times- need to control, tone down and rationalize my emotions. I have a strong tendency of being over protective, smothering, spoiling and ugliest of all jealousy (fear of them not loving me and losing them), I'm also terrified they might get sick or anything bad that might happen to them. I'm just not sure whether I could properly handle all this. Perhaps when I mature more. As of now, being with my Uranian bf is more than what my plutonian side can handle hah. I do like the idea of being a volunteer worker for large group of children (less room to be emotional) and if I graduate and have a steady income I like the idea of being a PLAN parent. You "adopt" a child from another continent, you exchange letters, make donations, see the child grow up etc it's equally beautiful to me and way less intense.  IP: Logged |
sand
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posted April 10, 2012 05:17 PM
every system i look at sez it's a bad idea. vedic is the only 1 i haven't looked at or remember i guess. but western gives me pisces h5. with lilith there. ruler neptune is in h3 but aspects my pluto. but maybe i can do it haha! is there a definite way to tell astrologicaly? i think culture can play a huge role as well tho. my dad is 5 personals in sag and jupiter in aquarius. he enjoys it and always has. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 10, 2012 06:53 PM
I've got the birth info for two more members of the group (both females).Woman 1 has nothing obvious in her chart apart from maybe Venus in the 9th house. She has an extemely challenging chart, however, that is full of squares and oppositions - cafeastrology gave it a negative score - so perhaps she simply has her hands full already with personal growth and does not need the challenge of raising a child to fuel growth. Woman 2 has a Sagittarius ascendant, Venus in Aquarius, and Mars in the 9th house. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 10, 2012 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by sand:
every system i look at sez it's a bad idea. vedic is the only 1 i haven't looked at or remember i guess. but western gives me pisces h5. with lilith there. ruler neptune is in h3 but aspects my pluto. but maybe i can do it haha! is there a definite way to tell astrologicaly? i think culture can play a huge role as well tho. my dad is 5 personals in sag and jupiter in aquarius. he enjoys it and always has.
I don't think there is ever a "definite" in astrology. Astrology is all about tendencies and potential, right? But no guarantees 
Still, it's an interesting pattern. Only 1 out of the 5 women so far in the CF group did not have the combination (so both signs together, not just one) of Aquarius and Sagittarius in Venus/Mars, sun, moon, ascendant and fifth house. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 10, 2012 08:09 PM
Final one I've got - this lady has sun and moon in the 9th house and Mars in Aquarius. She's got her fifth house in Capricorn and it SHOULD be Saturn in the fifth conjuct Uranus but it's in the fourth house because Saturn was retrograde at her time of birth. Actually, I've never seen anything like it; all of her malefics - Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, and also her North Node - were retrograde when she was born. She's obviously got her hands full, she doesn't need kids, lol.Can Neptune retrograde in the fifth ruin one's idealism of romance and children? I know retrograde makes malefics even more malefic. IP: Logged |
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