posted April 06, 2012 03:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
People can vote for whom they choose. The point is no one is gonna take away your birth control or abortion.

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posted April 06, 2012 03:24 PM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
So, people lose faith in a president when perhaps some expectations are unrealistic. True, some presidents maybe don't do as much as they could, but my hunch would be that it's a lot harder to get things accomplished than people assume.

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Pretty much.

People definitely put way to much faith in Leaders. Seriously. I mean their just people and they make horrible mistakes too. Also why the heck would you put your future and welfare in the hands of someone else? What do people really expect if things don't work out?

Everyone seems to be looking for a Messiah? Even in politics? We've romanticized candidates and it's the reason why people get so passionate and defensive when discussing politics and politicians. It's just insane. The expectations we have in our society of leaders and politicians is astoundingly unrealistic. The question is why do we continue to structure our societies in this way?

posted April 06, 2012 04:17 PM            

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Originally posted by andrewinthestars:
Have you considered Dr. Ron Paul? Nothing encapsles the Pluto in Capricorn energy like this man and his message of liberty and personal freedoms. He's had his message since the long hand of Pluto was in Libra.

When Pluto was in Aries, when the cycle initiated back in 1822 it was the rise of Andrew Jackson. Jackson ran the indians towards the ocean and made the two party gridlock. Ron Paul is the anti-thesis of the corruption and the idea that the president can bully to write laws. The founders never intended the president with that kind of power. He is at the forefront of the novelty of our time, "bailout", "federal reserve", "banks", "99%." I see that Uranus is in Aries, and I think people are getting with the energy and see it's a time for revolution. A Ron Paul revolution.

It is only from studying this man's leads did I learn how are news nations are jsut propaganda willfully and deliberately creating their own stories. Hitler's Goebells is Murdoch's Frank Luntz. The smere stories against Ron Paul are all to protect people who understand nothing of God.

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I love Ron Paul. I told him that to his face, and he said, "Well it's so nice to meet you!"...as if I were the important one.

posted April 06, 2012 04:24 PM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I don't really understand how people can *not* like Obama. But, I digress.

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posted April 06, 2012 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I love Ron Paul except I don't think he understands foreign policy with respect to terrorism which one has to understand in these perilous times but I think he is the real deal===a real patriot and an authentic person.

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Namaste Ami,

The Project for the New American Century designed our foreign policy and pressed to invade the Middle East before Sept. 11th.

Check out the member list to see how influential these people are: Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, and others.

In the higher echelons of power we also have people like Zbigniew Brzezinksi, author of the seminal Grand Chessboard, arguing for a virtual takeover of the Middle East for geopolitical strategy reasons, including securing oil and natural gas resources.

Brzezinksi was Obama;s foreign policy advisor for a time.

It's all too long a story for this little forum.

posted April 06, 2012 04:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Obama basically did the exact opposite of everything he promised to do. Not that the Republican candidate is likely to be any better.

Thinking of leaving the country.

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posted April 06, 2012 04:49 PM            

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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
The STATE should not decide controversial issues such as abortions or gay rights. Look what's happening with gay rights, and how long progress has taken. It was the same with civil rights. Um NO the state cannot be the decider for any of those very controversial issues. Is Ron Paul insane? Yep. Pretty Much. But honestly, who care's he's not getting anywhere near that oval office.

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This is more or less how I feel.

I feel the states should have power to make things the way those who live in the state want. However, major issues (such as the ones mentioned above) need to be unified.

The states have seemed to forgotten a few things too: Rights are a RIGHT, they are not something that can be voted on. That's what a right is.

posted April 06, 2012 04:53 PM            

This thread does not belong in Astrology 2.0!! Please get it out of here!!! Please move it to Global Unity 2.0!!!

posted April 06, 2012 04:57 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
LOL. I don't want to start a stampede riot. So I'll keep quiet.

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Ha. I am not surprised at all. I'll just infer from here.

posted April 06, 2012 04:57 PM            

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This is more or less how I feel.

I feel the states should have power to make things the way those who live in the state want. However, major issues (such as the ones mentioned above) need to be unified.

The states have seemed to forgotten a few things too: Rights are a RIGHT, they are not something that can be voted on. That's what a right is.

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posted April 06, 2012 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
LOL. I don't want to start a stampede riot. So I'll keep quiet.

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posted April 06, 2012 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by inthemisosoup:
This is exactly how I feel, too. Like I said on the last page, so what if the federal govt can't opress me if the state I live in still can? Considering how some states are running themselves and oppressing their citizens of basic rights, I think states rights can be very dangerous if not managed and monitered by the federal government.

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You should see what's going on in Michigan right now. This is absolutely astounding (and not in a good way at all). The GOP there is stripping the right of the people to vote. Literally. They've gone insofar as to work around democrats voting as well.

Rachel Maddow - Michigan GOP circumvents democracy with shady vote corner-cutting

posted April 06, 2012 05:10 PM            

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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
You should see what's going on in Michigan right now. This is absolutely astounding (and not in a good way at all). The GOP there is stripping the right of the people to vote. Literally. They've gone insofar as to work around democrats voting as well.

Rachel Maddow - Michigan GOP circumvents democracy with shady vote corner-cutting

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posted April 06, 2012 05:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Well, I think he is charming and handsome, and the media distorts things.

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i agree

not really trying to start a debate here--just looking at the stars.

posted April 06, 2012 05:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Obama basically did the exact opposite of everything he promised to do. Not that the Republican candidate is likely to be any better.

Thinking of leaving the country.

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i don't feel that way with obama but i have totally felt that way before. i spent the reagan/george bush I years in europe and it was a great experience.

posted April 06, 2012 05:43 PM            

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In the higher echelons of power we also have people like Zbigniew Brzezinksi, author of the seminal Grand Chessboard, arguing for a virtual takeover of the Middle East for geopolitical strategy reasons, including securing oil and natural gas resources.

Brzezinksi was Obama;s foreign policy advisor for a time.

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Brzezinski was my policy professor and he was the biggest PITA. A true SOB. I also had an extended debate with his daughter, Mika

posted April 06, 2012 05:56 PM            

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Please keep politics out of this part of the forum!

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posted April 06, 2012 05:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
People can vote for whom they choose. The point is no one is gonna take away your birth control or abortion.

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Actually, there was an unprecedented rise in anti-choice legislation in 2011.

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In the 50 states combined, legislators introduced more than 1,100 reproductive health and rights-related provisions, a sharp increase from the 950 introduced in 2010. By year’s end, 135 of these provisions had been enacted in 36 states, an increase from the 89 enacted in 2010 and the 77 enacted in 2009. ...

Fully 68% of these new provisions—92 in 24 states—-restrict access to abortion services, a striking increase from last year, when 26% of new provisions restricted abortion. The 92 new abortion restrictions enacted in 2011 shattered the previous record of 34 adopted in 2005.

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So yes, some women's abortions are being taken away.

posted April 06, 2012 06:15 PM            

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The November 1990 issue of the Political Report had kind words for David Duke [KKK leader and Holocaust denier].

This December 1990 newsletter describes Martin Luther King Jr. as “a world-class adulterer” who “seduced underage girls and boys” and “replaced the evil of forced segregation with the evil of forced integration.”

An October 1990 edition of the Political Report ridicules black activists, led by Al Sharpton, for demonstrating at the Statue of Liberty in favor of renaming New York City after Martin Luther King. The newsletter suggests that “Welfaria,” “Zooville,” “Rapetown,” “Dirtburg,”and “Lazyopolis ” would be better alternatives—and says, “Next time, hold that demonstration at a food stamp bureau or a crack house.”

The June 1990 issue of the Political Report says: “I miss the closet. Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities.”

A January 1994 edition of the Survival Report states that "gays in San Francisco do not obey the dictates of good sense," adding: "[T]hese men don't really see a reason to live past their fifties. They are not married, they have no children, and their lives are centered on new sexual partners." Also, "they enjoy the attention and pity that comes with being sick."

In the April 1993 Ron Paul Survival Report, the author—writing in the first person—states, “Whether [the 1993 World Trade Center bombing] was a setup by the Israeli Mossad, as a Jewish friend of mine suspects, or was truly a retaliation by the Islamic fundamentalists, matters little.”

The November 1992 Ron Paul Survival Report defends chess champion and Holocaust-denier Bobby Fischer, saying that “the brilliant Fischer, who has all the makings of an American hero, is very politically incorrect on Jewish questions, for which he will never be forgiven, even though he is a Jew. Thus we are not supposed to herald him as the world’s greatest chess player.”

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