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Gray
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posted September 16, 2012 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
This is a good point Gray. Indeed, where the planets fall in the chart can make a big difference. For example, about Venus and Mars in Cancer being more prone to BDSM/issues with dominance vs. submission, it seems to occur more with either or both planets falling in either the 12th or 8th houses.

I agree that Moon-Uranus could be at times submissive, but in certain areas absolutely rebellious and in no way submissive. Especially in terms of their children. I've seen it in cases with either Moon or Uranus falling in the 5th, with mothers who have pushed so far against motherhood so much as to abandon their children at some points to go for other things. So in this way, they refused to be tied down by conventional roles. But yes, sexually it doesn't guarantee rebelliousness unless other contacts are present.

Venus-Uranus doesn't guarantee submission or weird sexuality or kinky behaviors either. If the rest of the chart is relatively tame - meaning, no 8th house or even 12th house planets, no really prominent Mars-Uranus since I noticed you have semi-square and not something as intense as the conjunction for example, and no Venus-BML or other erotic aspects, I would doubt you Venus-Uranus would make you really kinky. It could also make you just prefer or 'love', appreciate and find beautiful things that are different, unique and futuristic, it could also make you appreciate Aquarian people or be prone to Aquarian influenced partners.


My eighth has four planets in it - one of them being Pluto.

Mars is in the sixth, sure. But it squares Pluto in the eighth.

As far as Mars-Uranus in my chart - Uranus is in Scorpio, conjunct the MC, and is also my chart-ruler. It's also conjunct BML (in Scorpio)

Venus also parallels Pluto in my chart, in addition to the Venus-Uranus conjunction. Venus is also in Virgo, which some people would probably say should make me an eager submissive, but nope.

On paper, I sound like a perfect candidate for this sort of thing, if these astrological rules were true. Trust me, I'm not into that sort of thing...at all, unless we're talking about something like light playful spanking, which I don't even count as BDSM.

The idea of hitting someone or being hit in a sexual context in a REAL sense, is a total turn-off to me. So is the idea of being ordered around...although I probably could get into being the one yelling demands once in a blue moon, but I'd blame that on Mercury in Leo quintile Pluto.

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sexyaqua30
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posted September 16, 2012 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a sag moon, cap venus, libra mars and I'm very submissive.

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Gray
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posted September 16, 2012 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sexyaqua30:
I'm a sag moon, cap venus, libra mars and I'm very submissive.

...Anything in the sixth?

I know a dude with a Virgo sun, Pisces moon and I'm pretty sure his sun is in the sixth. All he ever talks about is wanting to please and satisfy people. Born submissive.

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whaaat
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posted April 10, 2014 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'Feminazi' lol. As soon as someone uses that word I put them into my mental blacklist.
Despite your blatant sexism, this is an interesting thread so:

Scorpio moon, Taurus Venus, Venus opposite Pluto, Venus opposite Moon, Venus sextile Uranus. Dominant men are THE biggest turn off.

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PixieJane
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posted April 10, 2014 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^

I think this is the first I saw this thread (not sure how it got found after about a year and a half, this had to be several pages back), but I LOL when I saw you either submit or you're a "feminazi."

Adding to it is asking what makes someone submissive as if it was unusual which would imply that feminazi was the norm (otherwise the question would be "what placements make a feminazi"). That...well face palm isn't enough.

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maira
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posted April 10, 2014 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But it does boil down to either one, no? You can be submissive *or* dominant, just like you can't have just some integrity or how you can't be just a little bit pregnant

On topic, in men, my experience was that mutable signs in the chart are more submissive and masculine signs in a woman chart (specifically Aries and Leo suns) are dominant.

(Hi, VenusDiSirius, so nice to see you! How have you been? )

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MsPrism
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posted April 10, 2014 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why can't both people be submissive and dominant in different areas of their relationship?

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maira
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posted April 10, 2014 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They can, and they are, but in the end, there is one partner who has the power, so to speak, and another one who doesn't.

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PixieJane
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posted April 10, 2014 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^

That may be how it works out for you and those you know but it's not true of everyone.

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posted April 10, 2014 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
which is why they sink more when they swim


this is so BULL-SH-IT!!!!
based on a report from 1969 by a south african...
book: The Negro and Learning to Swim: The Buoyancy Problem Related to Reported Biological Differences.
aka: blacks cant swim because blacks have heavy bones....
nothing to do with testosterone!!!!
which justifies the stupid idea that black people cant swim...

please present modern scientific reports that support this so-called black people are more liked to sink because of higher testosterone levels and by the way, the higher bone density theory doesnt make sense either.
the American Journal of Human Human Biology did an experiment on this and didnt find any support for this so called 'bone and sinking' theory......
and as an aside, as aquacheeka said...there are also reports that state they have higher estrogen levels...

im disturbed by the way this kind of scientific racism goes unchecked and keeps being passed around by whites...you talk of blacks as if they were lab rats...
didnt know stormfront would make an appearance in linda-land.

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posted April 10, 2014 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a very submissive woman in relationship with a very submissive man haha!
We both got pisces moon and cancer rising, and a lot of libra+ virgo in our chart :-D

But to say which one is the most submissive it got to be him though, because he got a libra venus and I got a scorpio venus, so I kinda like to be dominating too…in bed
hahaha

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Liliya
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posted April 10, 2014 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can be submissive, and I'm loving it, especially in bed, haha I think, it's 50/50. It highly depends on my mood.

I have Leo Mars square Pluto and Leo Sun sextile Pluto (both for aggression),
but at the same time Moon conj Uranus (for changeability), and Retro Venus (12th house) conj Asc in Virgo (my tightest aspect; trine asteroid Sado 0 degrees)

So yeah, depends on my mood. It's never boring

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posted April 10, 2014 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
If you're looking for a submissive woman, you won't find one if she has these aspects:

Moon-Uranus, especially the square. Going against the grain and not a traditional housewife or motherly type. Extremely and erratically independent often to the detriment of family, husband/kids, and or partner.

Moon-BML, especially the conjunction. This is a woman whose emotional nature is bent on independence, she won't feel comfortable being shackled down. She'll have a tendency to dark moods, mood swings and 'witchy' seductions especially if she has Venus-BML conjunction or opposition. All in all, if she has one or either she will not be able to be a traditional housewife type either, or it won't come easily to her. With the BML-Moon or BML-Venus opposition she'll uncomfortably swing back and forth between more typical Moon functions and functions tainted with BML... sort of like the woman who forces herself to be a housewife with an apron but is actually a dominatrix at night, lol.

Mars-Uranus in a woman can be an unpredictable and erratic sex drive. She seeks out thrills and unique partners and sometimes unconventional sexual experiences. If either fall in Cancer expect a possible interest in BDSM. Same with Venus-Uranus. Both planets in Cancer seem more prone to using these kinds of things to simulate bonds and closeness. But this doesn't mean she is sexually or emotionally submissive by default.

Mars-Pluto in women is also killer. She is very strong, and unafraid to use it. She bulldozes what lies in her path. She is the woman who will fight tooth and nail to survive and speak her mind. This aspect strengthens even the weakest Mars. Expect her to fight back.


I have a lil bit of everything.

I have moon square uranus
Pisces moon in the 12th
Aries sun in the 12th
Cap mars
venuus opp pluto

I am both submissive and dominant. Not many see my submissive side. day to day interactions im very dominant and aggresive. My male coworkers have said so as well as my brothers and father. My ex told me i couldnt let a man be a man. whatever that means

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maira
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posted April 10, 2014 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
^^

That may be how it works out for you and those you know but it's not true of everyone.


You are right, there's a lot of Pluto in my chart.

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PixieJane
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posted April 10, 2014 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It occurs to me I have been truly dominant in one relationship, but I spoiled him rotten, hardly a "Nazi." In retrospect I wish I'd have called him "princess." I bet he'd have loved it.

I SORTA took the submissive role in another relationship, though there was nothing extreme about that either. We argued, I did my own thing, and had boundaries not to be crossed. But then had I been fully submissive, a Bella to her Edward, I think she'd have gotten bored with me and tossed me aside. She needed conflict as much as she needed to be in charge, and when we did compete I never insulted her by pulling my punches, even if it meant her pouting (and getting me back later) because I'd somehow managed to win.

Everyone else I was in a serious relationship with was pretty egalitarian, though we may have "spheres of influence" where one or the other is dominant.

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PixieJane
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posted April 10, 2014 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another thing I recall is that people who are dominant or submissive in the BDSM subculture can switch, sometimes easily, at other times their "poles shift" unexpectedly. (I also hear the submissive one holds the real power.)

That reminds me of some astrological placements I read about (the specifics escape my memory), in which the woman who had them wanted to be a degraded slave of love or a domineering mistress. The woman I know who has that placement has indeed been both, and enjoyed both.

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posted April 10, 2014 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im a libra asc Lilith conjunct, aqua venus conjunct Saturn, sun sextile pluto. Im not to be controlled.

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