posted April 15, 2012 12:06 AM            

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Originally posted by scrappydog:
Hmmm this is intersting and im not completely sure, but im thinking a dominant moon with a weakly placed mars/pluto/sun..
I am a very dominant, aggressive female, my mars is not strong, But my moon is in its detriment in cappy in 8th h and square saturn too, I have a scorpio stellium and sun conj pluto almost exact.

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I agree :]
my sun-mars-pluto conjunct, and i'm also very dominant

posted April 15, 2012 12:43 AM            

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Originally posted by scrappydog:
Butterfly, yea I am a sag mars conj uranus in the 7th too, Lots of relationship problems with me, I do not bend and resent ant type of restriction. My uranus in 7th also forms a tight semi square to my moon in 8th.

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posted April 15, 2012 12:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Sashar:
Virgo tends to get cast as being a submissive sign. They're not, they serve. There is a subtle but big difference.

Sorry... saw submissive and remembered another thing that irked me about reading Virgo info. lol

Libras also get type cast into that area just because they tend to avoid confrontation... but that's only one side of the scale and if they stay on that side for too long it will tip back violently.

To find your answer, I'd suggest working backwards (I like working backwards). What synastry aspects tend to point towards a dominate/submissive relationship? Then look at the possible submissive chart from that information.

I myself prefer neither submissive or feminazi. Give/take in different ways making a team, filling in for each others strengths and weaknesses. Both people involved being submissive and dominate depending on the situation.

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I do not know much about synastry or this persons birth time but that would make more sense. I was thinking in more general terms.

posted April 15, 2012 01:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
I agree with you there, but traditionally there are roles for each gender, the woman stays at home and tends to the house and a man goes out and works. In todays time women play and men play both roles which makes them equal and there thus there would be no roles, Some people still follow these roles so they are still there so yes there submissive women, but hardly by there choosing but really society unless they have sun conjunct uranus and rebel, just like how people define sexual orientation for example. Like I one can be feminine with out being submissive.

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posted April 15, 2012 02:24 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Geminisquared:
[b]I agree with you there, but traditionally there are roles for each gender, the woman stays at home and tends to the house and a man goes out and works. In todays time women play and men play both roles which makes them equal and there thus there would be no roles, Some people still follow these roles so they are still there so yes there submissive women, but hardly by there choosing but really society unless they have sun conjunct uranus and rebel, just like how people define sexual orientation for example. Like I one can be feminine with out being submissive.

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What they would like to do and they insisted I call the shots and funny thing is that a lot appeared outspoken and independent but still deffered to me as the male even though I had asked the where they would like to go.[/B][/QUOTE]

It's possible. More testosterone makes people more sexual, playful, active, muscular, aggressive, dominant, have deeper voices. Did you know blacks genetically have a higher level of testosterone? Makes sense, as many have deeper voices and much higher muscles mass than other races, which is why they sink more when they swim and are better at other sports.

Obviously all men have more testosterone than women. lol. It hasn't been proven totally yet, but there are studies that are trying to figure out if testosterone levels also determine sexual orientation or if its something else.

posted April 15, 2012 02:26 AM              

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

What they would like to do and they insisted I call the shots and funny thing is that a lot appeared outspoken and independent but still deffered to me as the male even though I had asked the where they would like to go.

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posted April 15, 2012 03:24 AM            

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Originally posted by butterflyxoxxo:
What astrology placements would explain a women who prefers a submissive role in a relationship vs a feminazi

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posted April 15, 2012 03:46 AM            

Women who like to compromise?

Women who only do what the man says?

posted April 15, 2012 04:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ The man's in control & she likes it that way?
That's how I read it.
I would say maybe markers in the chart that focused on traditional male/female roles in romantic relationships.

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Ok gotcha. I think how you were brought up can be an indicator too or at least an influence.

posted April 15, 2012 11:17 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
It's possible. More testosterone makes people more sexual, playful, active, muscular, aggressive, dominant, have deeper voices. Did you know blacks genetically have a higher level of testosterone? Makes sense, as many have deeper voices and much higher muscles mass than other races, which is why they sink more when they swim and are better at other sports.

Obviously all men have more testosterone than women. lol. It hasn't been proven totally yet, but there are studies that are trying to figure out if testosterone levels also determine sexual orientation or if its something else.

So you could very well be right

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Black people also have higher estrogen levels (the men as well), so I'm not exactly sure what this is supposed to prove? lol.

posted April 15, 2012 01:30 PM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I don't mean to be rude, but there ARE a lot of roles in between those two extremes...

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I know there is a wide spectrum of roles but I meant what i said, submissive. As in, the man has the final say in everything. Here is a link if anyone is more interested in what I am saying http://www.takeninhand.com/

posted April 15, 2012 02:37 PM            

Here is a definition of feminism for you from wikipedia :
'Feminism is a collection of movements aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women.[1][2] In addition, feminism seeks to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist is a "person whose beliefs and behavior are based on feminism." '

So please, the question here would be:
Does a women prefer an inferior role in a relationship or likes to be equal to her counterpart?

I want to be an equal. I am not a child anymore and my decisions and actions don't need to be dictated for me. I am capable of being my own person. I also wouldn't want to interfere in my partners desicionmaking either. If he wants my advice I'm glad to give it and I'd always be there for him to support and help. Something I would want him to do for me, too. I don't want a men who bows down and follows my every command and I don't want to be with a man who thinks he can control me and guide my actions.
So all in all I prefer relationships were the partners are equals and take eachother seriously.

I am a Virgo with Cancer Moon
5th house stellium and a strong 1st house.

I am not sure what would make a woman submissive but my guess is that it has a lot more to do with upbringing than with astrology.

posted April 15, 2012 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
I find it sad that these two extremes are presented here and as it seems (by your use of language) one is thought to be better than the other. I think it is fairly clear which one. The word 'feminazi' is demeaning and unfair against women who choose to live a life with rights equal to a mans. I gathers that many think feminists are people who want to take rights away from men, tyrannise them and believe that women are better than men. None of this is true.

Here is a definition of feminism for you from wikipedia :
'Feminism is a collection of movements aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women.[1][2] In addition, feminism seeks to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist is a "person whose beliefs and behavior are based on feminism." '

So please, the question here would be:
Does a women prefer an inferior role in a relationship or likes to be equal to her counterpart?

I want to be an equal. I am not a child anymore and my decisions and actions don't need to be dictated for me. I am capable of being my own person. I also wouldn't want to interfere in my partners desicionmaking either. If he wants my advice I'm glad to give it and I'd always be there for him to support and help. Something I would want him to do for me, too. I don't want a men who bows down and follows my every command and I don't want to be with a man who thinks he can control me and guide my actions.
So all in all I prefer relationships were the partners are equals and take eachother seriously.

I am a Virgo with Cancer Moon
5th house stellium and a strong 1st house.

I am not sure what would make a woman submissive but my guess is that it has a lot more to do with upbringing than with astrology.

If your question concerned the difference between the placements for a submissive or dominant woman you should have phrased it accordingly. To choose a word that compares a dominant woman (who has as much right to existance as any dominant men) to the Nazis is inappropriate and hurtful. To the women as well as to the real victims of the Nazis. That's all I have to say to this issue.

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If astrology determines a person's characteristics and general deposition than it should have a factor as to whether the women is more aggressive or not as much as the upbringing.

Like I have already said twice I selected my words to be on extreme sides of the spectrum. I do not condone the word feminazi nor did I coin the term but it is a popular label thrown at women who behave a certain way

posted April 15, 2012 03:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Black people also have higher estrogen levels (the men as well), so I'm not exactly sure what this is supposed to prove? lol.

Also, scientists have already determined the genetic origins of homosexuality (for anyone who's interested). This ultimately culminated in the creation of lesbian mice in a controlled lab setting by way of gene deletion.

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That was one study that claimed they have higher estrogen levels, though. The rest claim higher testoterone.

Very interested in that study about the lesbian mice lol. Please share!

posted April 15, 2012 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by butterflyxoxxo:
If astrology determines a person's characteristics and general deposition than it should have a factor as to whether the women is more aggressive or not as much as the upbringing.

Like I have already said twice I selected my words to be on extreme sides of the spectrum. I do not condone the word feminazi nor did I coin the term but it is a popular label thrown at women who behave a certain way

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What do you even mean by aggressive? Are we talking about violent women? Please use the correct terminology because the word 'feminazi' actually refers to feminists with quite logical claims and not to physically and verbally aggressive women. And yes, I know that Limbaugh coined it- just another reason to despise this word.