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Topic: The least superficial sign?
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Betty Boop
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From: Betty Boop Land
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 28, 2012 12:37 AM
  
Well I have only seen this on TV shows like "Mean Girls"... not in real life where I interact with real people who are more multi-faceted than a character.... people who have a soul, a higher self, past lives behind them and so on (obviously this part is just based on my own beliefs). I try to connect with people on a deeper level... because on a surface social level - anyone can come across as a character in a film... whether they are the nerdy character or the bit*chy character or whoever else.. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: Wankety Wankerson
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 28, 2012 12:47 AM
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Well...
It ^ was a very cliche comment... one made by a great number of people out there... and one that does not really reflect the reality of the situation. There is no connection between appearance and jerk-y behaviour. Do you ever wonder why no one says:
"You could be the ugliest person in the world.. but I will never help you out...if you also have an ugly personality"
"You could be badly disabled... but I will never care for you - if you have an ugly personality".
Double standards? Is it more acceptable for 'some' people to have ugly personalities and for everyone else to put up with it? Because you NEVER hear anyone say -those things- ^
But everyone is happy to keep pasting and re-pasting the whole "Beauty means nothing with a bad personality" thing..
I don't feel like my reply was unwarranted, considering the way you phrased that. I only mentioned your sign - because what you said is very cliche.
If I googled it - I could find another 10000000000 posts saying exactly what you said. And since they say Aquarius is so adverse to cliches......
Anyway, I was not meaning to be disrespectful. I was reacting to a comment you made that was pretty *heavy* as far as I'm concerned, with the 'disgust' thrown in there. I would like it if you stayed. Obviously it is up to you. I'm sorry you felt so offended by this.
I wasnt talking to you, what you said didnt offend me, it is comments like amowls that have worn my patience extremely thin, there have been soo many comments like that made towards me and i will not tolerate it, so theres one of two options to take, i can give in and stoop to high school shaming tactics,or walk out the door,i choose to walk out the door. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 28, 2012 12:53 AM
aquaguy, please try to ignore it. I know that is easier said than done, believe me I know, but keep in mind that there are people here who really value your input.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 28, 2012 12:54 AM
I don't want you to make this *definitive* decision. Please sleep on it. Because I am honestly a little fearful, I know how we Aquas can be when we make up our mind about something... when that switch gets flipped it's a wrap and that is where we got the "cold and detached" rep from... so please Aquaguy I beg you to reconsider.IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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From: pluto
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted April 28, 2012 01:03 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
A Leo that says looks don't matter? !!
*Waves frantically* Me Me!!!  Looks really doesn't matter to this leo. I'm very serious here. I love guys who are a bit on the plump side, with authority, confidence and intelligece in them. And clean complexion and some grooming - it shows that they love themselves too, right? Oh wait, I loooooove guys wearing glasses. Its so attractive!! Guys should never go for laser surgery to correct myopia! My exs and crushes are mostly not the gorgeous looking type but they are all very intelligent and confident - best way to shut me up and put me in place. Good looking guys lack that special something.. I don't know how to describe.. they don't interest me much.. Astrologically, I have Leo Sun, Aquarius Moon, Gemini Venus, Libra Mars, Pluto, Ascendant. Hmmm... could be my Venus-Saturn exact Square, I dun know what else could have explained my preference. Or perhaphs Venus in 9th house IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 28, 2012 01:05 AM
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Well I have only seen this on TV shows like "Mean Girls"... not in real life where I interact with real people who are more multi-faceted than a character.... people who have a soul, a higher self, past lives behind them and so on (obviously this part is just based on my own beliefs). I try to connect with people on a deeper level... because on a surface social level - anyone can come across as a character in a film... whether they are the nerdy character or the bit*chy character or whoever else..
I definitely hear what you are saying, and tbh I DO indeed have beautiful friends but they are all from elsewhere, having emigrated to this city within the last ten years. The beautiful women I know who were born and raised here are more often than not arrogant and stuck-up and promiscuous, etc. and I'm not trying to paint a caricature but this is the reality I see around me. It's not in every situation, for instance I know this one gorgeous Sag girl who is not an immigrant who is pretty sweet and down-to-earth but she has horrible self-esteem issues and she is extremely high-maintenance and clingy in a relationship.
And I also don't want to assume that just because aquaguy is a male that he is BS'ing about wanting nothing to do with beautiful girls who act like they're better than everyone. It's possible that he is being honest. My boyfriend has had a years-long actual aversion to dating any pretty girl who has blonde hair because of this very perception! That's not just talk, that is a manifestation in his behaviour. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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From: Betty Boop Land
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 28, 2012 01:06 AM
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I don't want you to make this *definitive* decision. Please sleep on it.
 I'd miss your posts.. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: Wankety Wankerson
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 28, 2012 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Well I have only seen this on TV shows like "Mean Girls"... not in real life where I interact with real people who are more multi-faceted than a character.... people who have a soul, a higher self, past lives behind them and so on (obviously this part is just based on my own beliefs).
I try to connect with people on a deeper level... because on a surface social level - anyone can come across as a character in a film... whether they are the nerdy character or the bit*chy character or whoever else..
See this what i am talking about and why i am mad, alot of women on this site have no problem bashing men and in not so nice ways to boot,and i can understand it because alot of men are jerks and it saddens me to hear some of the womens stories on here. I sympathize with every single woman who has been hurt by a man,i have never added insult to injury by throwing a mean comment at them,but i dont get the same treatment.See whereas alot of women have had nothing but bad experiences with men, i have had nothing but bad with women,and whenever i speak from my negative experiences with women i am always attacked with insults or several people have labeled me immature,or as you just did, basically that i have outdated stereotypes and i generalize,thus invalidating my experiences,but its perfectly ok to generalize men and nobody says anything about it, thats extremely unfair in my opinion.IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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From: The Sun
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 28, 2012 01:24 AM
^That again? I don't want to read that. I want to read either a good bye or an "I'm staying," with no ifs, ands, or buts.IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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From: pluto
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted April 28, 2012 01:29 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
there have been soo many comments like that made towards me and i will not tolerate it, so theres one of two options to take, i can give in and stoop to high school shaming tactics,or walk out the door,i choose to walk out the door.
I learnt that I can't please everyone, nor will everyone likes me. So long that I love the people I care about and they are ok with my unfathomable behavior, the rest of the worlds' population doesn't matter to me, virtual or not. Please stay cos you love some people on this forum. In all fairness n gentle truthfulness, let me share with you what I observe fr my experience... I do date a lot but only that mostly they are a one date thingy n my Aquarius moon could pick up the smallest observation of a person - which explains most only lasted a lunch, dinner date n not more. I wasn't playing with hearts more than I am searching for someone special. One guy I went out for a coffee date complained about how he was always disappointed by females, how females judged him on his looks n how they are all materistic n superficial. Initially, diplomatically, I tried my best to console him, agree that it could happen in our society, after all, I do have pisces in 6th house n my ascendant conjunct Super Galactic Center, making me as sympatic as a Pisces moon or ascendant. After a while, I realize nobody can change his perception.. N that is so unattractive cos he didn't believe a girl like that exist. We find what we look for in every person.. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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From: Betty Boop Land
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 28, 2012 01:30 AM
It's not ok to generalise men. I understand that you were annoyed about this when it happened.. and I felt the same way. The thread about everyone being a potential rapist etc.... I don't pay attention to stuff like that, and I find it exaggerated for people to think that way.I have to go at the moment, because I really have to finish writing on something else... but I'll reply in more depth later. Anyways - please don't leave, because many people do like you and your posts. I don't recall ever calling you immature, but I'm sorry if I accidentally said this at some point... If anyone else had said the same thing on this thread, I would've still called it cliche.
I don't find you immature, but I think there is a problem in your love life that is not necessarily just about meeting the wrong people.. and I'll try to help.
I have more to say - I'll be back. xx IP: Logged |
Planet Queen
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From: Portlandia
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 28, 2012 02:46 AM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Probably Pisces.
Yeah right! I know plenty of superficial Pisces! Honestly there is no zodiac sign that is less superficial then another. It just depends on how evolved the person is. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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Registered: Oct 2011
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posted April 28, 2012 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
A Leo that says looks don't matter? !!
Just want to be clear. Although i have a Leo wife who is almost obssessive compulsive about appearances, I'm not remotely suggesting that I'm even modestly good looking.  IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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Registered: Sep 2011
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posted April 28, 2012 09:00 AM
I was prepared to argue that not all Libras are superficial, but then I thought of the reason of why I eat fish, but won't eat meat. Part of it is the taste, part of it is the health reasons, but honestly, another reason is that I don't find fish to be "cute". I don't want to cuddle a fish or play with it. On the other hand, I think that pigs are adorable. So yes, we CAN be superficial. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 28, 2012 09:08 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
See this what i am talking about and why i am mad, alot of women on this site have no problem bashing men and in not so nice ways to boot,and i can understand it because alot of men are jerks and it saddens me to hear some of the womens stories on here. I sympathize with every single woman who has been hurt by a man,i have never added insult to injury by throwing a mean comment at them,but i dont get the same treatment.See whereas alot of women have had nothing but bad experiences with men, i have had nothing but bad with women,and whenever i speak from my negative experiences with women i am always attacked with insults or several people have labeled me immature,or as you just did, basically that i have outdated stereotypes and i generalize,thus invalidating my experiences,but its perfectly ok to generalize men and nobody says anything about it, thats extremely unfair in my opinion.
Dude, I have a family friend who lives in Knoxville and she has an available sister and I'll see if she is interested in a blind date with you. But you must be able to handle a drop dead gorgeous 5'9" blonde. Big sister was an Elite Model and has several magazine covers. They are as sweet as can be and they don't give a crap about money: they already have lots of it. Anyway, until we set up a female bashing forum for you to get your aggressions out, Harden The Foxtrot Up and get your Vicky Secrets out of a twisted knot. Show your Cajones. You are the one with the Johnson and they can't stand it. Get that chip outta yer assets and man up.
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NativelyJoan
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posted April 28, 2012 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
You are the one with the Johnson and they can't stand it. Get that chip outta yer assets and man up.
Who exactly can't stand it YTA? IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 28, 2012 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
Who exactly can't stand it YTA?
The ones that treated/treat him badly in relationships. NOBODY has the right to treat anyone badly in any relationship. The ones who think so damn highly of their personal attractiveness are usually the ones deficient in that aspect and carry a massive inferiority complex. I've interacted with enough super models to know that they don't even have a high opinion of their own looks. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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From: Jupiter
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 28, 2012 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
The ones that treated/treat him badly in relationships. NOBODY has the right to treat anyone badly in any relationship. The ones who think so damn highly of their personal attractiveness are usually the ones deficient in that aspect and carry a massive inferiority complex. I've interacted with enough super models to know that they don't even have a high opinion of their
own looks.
SO TRUE
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Deliverance
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posted April 28, 2012 12:30 PM
Capricorn & Scorpio or related signatures are the least superficial. IP: Logged |
amowls**
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posted April 28, 2012 12:39 PM
Who says its okay to generalize men? How many times on this site have I had to reply to someone in order to say "well, people of both genders do it."I'm sorry if you got mad at my dig, don't leave because of it. I get really annoyed when a guy says "pretty girls are bitches." I also get annoyed when people say "all men are only in it for sex" or "men are lying cheaters." PEOPLE are lying cheaters, PEOPLE like to use others for sex. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted April 28, 2012 12:50 PM
Also, for what it's worth, I don't think that someone is a bad or "superficial" person simply for noticing and appreciating beauty. "Superficial", to me, means ONLY noticing what's on the surface. This can be applied to other things besides appearances, such as having a "superficial" knowledge of a subject, for example. Simply noticing beauty isn't superficial, if you do journey into the deeper layers of a person. Stopping at the first layer, yes, that's superficial, but how can you even get to the other layers without going through the top one first? And, honestly, caring about one's appearance doesn't make you superficial, either. It means, to me, that you're a good steward of your body, that you want to look nice, that you want people to have a good first impression of you, etc. One's appearance is important. It affects how others perceive you. There are etiquette rules about how to dress, too, so paying attention also is part of courtesy (example: not wearing revealing clothing, not wearing jeans to work unless you're in a messy profession, etc). I personally feel more confident when I feel like I look nice, and I feel better about myself. Essentially, the other point that I'm trying to make here, in addition to what I said earlier, is that there are a lot of reasons to care about what you look like that are not about putting people down or otherwise belittling them.
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RegardesPlatero
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posted April 28, 2012 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
Well there's some potent Air sign haterade on this thread. Just kidding... I think every sign can be pretty superficial or not. Air signs just tend to be positive. What's so bad about that? Life doesn't always have to be dreary.
 I agree. I have a lot of anxiety, and honestly, I definitely think about the dark side of life quite a bit. I NEED light, fluffy, happy fun-fun things (like the Happy Fun Fun thread on LLC2) just to get through the day and not think about the horrible stuff so much that I'm up at night. Air signs definitely explore the terrors of life, but we don't feel as much of a need to go dwell there as other signs. I'm not the activisty type, and one big reason is that I already think about things so much and in detail that the last thing that I need is to be more fully immersed in the horrors of the world. I certainly am aware of them, but I need a break from them to function. If I allow myself to go too far in my thoughts, I can't even begin to describe how horrible that feels. When I think about everything that can go wrong, everything bad that can happen, the only antidote is something stupid, frivolous, and silly. At the end of my workday, I do my best to relax and indulge in things that make me happy so that I can actually sleep and feel peaceful. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted April 28, 2012 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by sand:
sag. i feel they're the really down to earth sign. i dunno maybe my leo moon prevents me from being a down to earth taurus but yeah saggo for me..edit: oops it's about looks i see. well i dunno then lol! 
^that picture is priceless
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NativelyJoan
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posted April 28, 2012 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Air signs definitely explore the terrors of life, but we don't feel as much of a need to go dwell there as other signs. I'm not the activisty type, and one big reason is that I already think about things so much and in detail that the last thing that I need is to be more fully immersed in the horrors of the world. I certainly am aware of them, but I need a break from them to function. If I allow myself to go too far in my thoughts, I can't even begin to describe how horrible that feels. When I think about everything that can go wrong, everything bad that can happen, the only antidote is something stupid, frivolous, and silly. At the end of my workday, I do my best to relax and indulge in things that make me happy so that I can actually sleep and feel peaceful.
Lol, I'm the same and I agree. But I do activism, because I've got some dominant Uranian energy however, on a mental level I agree with everything you said. Sometimes the world brings me down so much, it's hard to function. I swear in those moments I have to overdose on reality tv shows and fashion magazines, kind of ridiculously on the surface things in order to detach myself from the depressive state of the world to get clarity. I want to be of service, it's why I love to do humanitarian work but it's not easy staying positive. I remind myself that I can't stay too long deep down in the depths, I have to come to the surface eventually. And I feel most comfortable in the clouds, that's home for me. But I don't think Air signs are afraid to go deep, it's just harder for us to see things from an objective stance if were embroiled in them. We always have to detach. I don't consider that to be superficial. It's just keeping things in perspective and not allowing yourself to be swallowed up by misery. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: Wankety Wankerson
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posted April 29, 2012 06:50 AM
Ok this has all been a huge misunderstanding to say the least, I was simply saying I am not attracted to people with that attitude no matter how pretty they are,I never meant to imply all pretty women are bad or that I have a problem with them for being attractive, on the contrary I love a pretty. woman as much as the. next Guy, I was simply. saying I hate pretention of any kind,probably. because I'm a double. aqua. I think these issues I have with communication stem from my third house Mars and moon, I have noticed people tend to perceive me as an a** especially through writing or sarcastic when in my mind I was simply stating my thoughts, opinions, or experiences plainly, I never mean it to but its taken that way, so i would just like to ask you fine folks on Linda lindaland to not take things I say to heart unless
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