posted May 02, 2012 01:06 PM            

Parents who adopt, frequently have their Moon aspecting Neptune and

posted May 02, 2012 01:15 PM            

I AGREE! I am living proof to THAT!

Saturn in 5th can also be attributed to a other issues.
example: a party pooper

:lalalinda:"Moons are fertile so it wouldn't matter if you have an empty 5th house or Saturn posited within you'll still have pregnancies to deal with (termination is possible)."

posted May 02, 2012 01:48 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
Clearly. But, regardless of what your intent was, you've been saying that people with a barren sign on the cusp of the 5th on top of an empty 5th house, won't have children at all. Ever. It's pretty easy to back track, isn't it?

Queen Elizbeth II has an empty 5th house in Gemini, Mercury in Aries. 2 barren signs, had her first child when she was 22, not exactly late in life. Her second kid came 2 years later, when she was 24.

Queen Victoria had like a million kids, empty 5th house in Leo, Sun in Gemini.

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posted August 31, 2021 09:29 PM            

Looks like it’s a combination of Aquarius, Neptune and the 5th house.

posted September 01, 2021 05:51 PM            

My mother had Pisces sun and moon with a Scorpio ascendant, her (Virgo) 11th house ruler Mercury deposited in her 3rd house. She had Cancer on the cusp of her 9th house, which included a Pluto-Ceres conjunction in Leo. Both adoptions were international, actually some of the first. Mine (I'm oldest) received some publicity and was on national news. She went on to set up a helpline to help other couples adopt from overseas. She had Neptune (her 4th house ruler) in Libra in the 11th. Her 5th house ruler would be Mars, deposited in Pisces in her 4th house, opposed by Saturn. Only her Lilith and Eris are in the 5th. She had her Sun, moon, Venus, and Mars all in her 4th house, opposite Saturn, with Venus being on the IC.

She did have a baby with her first husband, but sadly he was born prematurely and passed away.

My father is a Libra with moon in Aries, with Pluto, Jupiter, and Lilith in the 11th. His (Cancer) 11th house ruler is his moon in the 8th, opposite his Mercury and Venus/Mars conjunction in the 2nd and sextile Saturn, ruler of his 5th. His 5th house includes only Vesta. His 4th house is empty. His 1st house Neptune opposes his Ceres/Fortune, among other aspects.

posted September 02, 2021 02:27 PM            

But my partner and I had already moved out of state and this was slowing down the process a lot. They ended up going with the first people, connected with my family up there, that said that they would take them in. Thus began a process of them being shuffled around because they acted out a lot.

I don't know what relates to it astrologically. I have Sag 5th with Sag Neptune in same, and Jupiter in Virgo conjunct Mars, both trine wide Sun-Mercury conjunction. I have Libra on the 3rd with Libra Pluto in same, and Pluto co-rules my IC.

My half brother did end up moving in with me for awhile, but when he was 18 (years later after the above). He was living with his father (my step father who had gotten out of prison), and his father decided to up and leave him for a lady in Germany that had money and that he had his sights on for mooching off of. (My step father is definitely a full sociopath).

My brother said he had no place to go, and so I took him in. And then proceeded to put up with A LOT until I couldn't/wouldn't anymore, and decided tough love was the best option. That was one of the hardest decisions of my life.

posted September 02, 2021 07:50 PM            

Intentions and motivations do have to be correct to adopt. Unfortunately a lot of people (including my adoptive mother and the adoptive parents of a couple friends of mine) do it for all the wrong reasons, so the child ends up doubly (or more) hurt - first by the perceived "rejection" of the adoption and then by how things go wrong with the adoptive parents. Then there is guilt over not feeling "grateful" enough and the inevitable self-blame and negative beliefs about one's worth and loveability. In other words, it can go very, very wrong if the adoptive parents lack critical self-awareness.

posted September 02, 2021 10:21 PM            

Hi S.V., I suspect it's probably a bit of both 3rd and 5th, which is why I mentioned both of them. Way before the above stuff happened that I mentioned, my step father was again in prison during most of my middle school years. In some ways that was great for me (him not being around), but I also became like a surrogate father figure for them. They were quite young at this point, and I did a lot of babysitting and helping my mother out.

True about tough love. It can be hard to engage in if one is not used to it. At heart, I'm a softie and a half, but I've had to learn how to be more Capricornian and Aquarian in that sense.

Really good points about adoption. Btw, you have a very beautiful, lovely Soul.

Yeah, no need to rush/force it, perhaps at some point later on in life you will be nudged to look more deeply into it all. There is nothing to fear when you look at things through the eyes of love. (though, course easier said than done..)