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Topic: Need feedback and opinions on these synastry aspects:
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ProudestLeo Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Puerto Rico Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 03, 2012 12:45 PM
-Sun Square Moon: Is it really as unbearable and terrible as described in most sites? Based on what I've read its one of the worst aspects in synastry, is it really? Does anyone know of a relationship that was mostly harmonious with it?-Moon opposite Venus: From what I've read this means both sides take each other for granted and almost never give each other due credit, thus leaving either partner feeling like a victim due to sensitivity...Anyone? -Venus trine Mars: Is it really as incredibly good as described by most sites? I've often read that it basically means a state of bliss or ectasy in a relationship. Is it that positive that it can offset or at least neutralize other negative aspects? Why is it considered one of the finest aspects in synastry? -Venus opposite Saturn: Most sites more or less say this aspect means the relationship is not genuine at all thus making it emotionless, impersonal, and even isolated. Is it really like that? -Venus square Jupiter: Are the belif sistems that different that there is no common ground whatsoever to build a relationship? IP: Logged |
ProudestLeo Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Puerto Rico Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 03, 2012 04:32 PM
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Desiring Shadows Moderator Posts: 927 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 03, 2012 05:26 PM
Haha, now that I have that aside... Sun square moon typically is an aspect of hurt egos between partners and not getting the emotional needs met. Sun person takes all the attention ,etc. Good news is that any sun-moon aspect is immediate attention/noted by both partners, so there will attraction. Its pretty unfortunate on the otherhand because its square brings conflicts/dissagreemnts. If your the moon person, you can probably make the relationship work being consciously aware and by not taking what the sun person says to offense. If your the sun person, becareful with the criticism. I believe all of the aspects can be worked with by using self-control and an objective approach. For that reason alone any relationship can work. You just have to will your way into it and it may not always be natural or easy. What I usually do is read up on the opposition aspect because its kind of like a lot lesser sweeter interpretation of the squares, then I would use that information to bring about your desired results. Nice username, by the way. Hahaz ---------- "Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars." - IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Moderator Posts: 927 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 03, 2012 05:29 PM
Venus opposition saturn can be all work and no play. When entering this relationship try to lighten and ease the atmosphere with laughter and general friendliness. Maybe initiate the affection a little. Don't ask for it, saturn will make you wait. Just get in there for the kill with a big hug and don't think too much about it.IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Moderator Posts: 927 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 03, 2012 05:31 PM
If you want to know more about these individual aspects in particular, heres a search engine that lets you explore the site. These synastry aspects have been talked about numerous times. http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=008618649001241799762:gzvuymx7vjg IP: Logged |
ProudestLeo Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Puerto Rico Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 03, 2012 07:03 PM
Oohh I see, thank you very much for your help it is apreciated. But what about Venus trine Mars?I often search on google for topics in this forum, it's just that I thought I had very specific questions about those aspects. IP: Logged |
AquarianGirl Newflake Posts: 14 From: USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted May 03, 2012 07:15 PM
what if both partners have sun square moon natally also in the same signs? would each already be used to it or would it twice as bad?IP: Logged |
Libran Kale Newflake Posts: 16 From: Seattle, Washington, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted May 03, 2012 07:27 PM
Honestly, all you need to know is that most any relationship can work, astrology is just a helpful tool in showing you how WELL it can work.IP: Logged |
ProudestLeo Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Puerto Rico Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 03, 2012 07:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by AquarianGirl: what if both partners have sun square moon natally also in the same signs? would each already be used to it or would it twice as bad?
This is a good question, the person im talking about has Sun in Saggitarius and moon in Aquarius, and I have Sun in Leo and moon in Virgo... Wich would mean in addition to my moon squaring her sun...My sun opposites her moon...right? IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 03, 2012 08:01 PM
Sun Square Moon: This is much better than having NO Sun/Moon aspects. It's quite good. I have the square in natal and my longest rel. was with someone who also has the square in natal - & - We had a double whammy of the square in synastry. You respect each other so even though you can argue like cats and dogs at times - there is a basic understanding that you can go the distance together, and that you can count on each other. Moon opposite Venus: NOPE. Big mistake in the interpretations you have read! It definitely does not mean anything negative. Both the Moon and Venus are benefic planets and both feminine.. so this opposition would just make you feel emotionally close and in love with each other. This is a very good aspect to have. Venus trine Mars: No. I wouldn't say this is "incredibly" good. I'm not sure where you read the 'ecstasy' thing - but it was probably in an interpretation that lumped the sextile/trine and conjunction all together. This trine is just sweet and nice and caring. It is easy to be in sync sexually. But it does not, by itself point to an "incredible" sexual attraction. It's a more friendly - laid back - kind of attraction. Venus opposite Saturn: In my opinion, it works out better if the guy is the Saturn. The Saturn person will do everything in their power to make the relationship last. They are very reliable and they want to be there for the Venus person. The Venus person appreciates this, but they can at times feel skeptical.... as though Saturn is doing these things with a double agenda.. because they want *something* from Venus. Due to social norms.. if the girl is Venus - she would probably appreciate Saturn more - than the other way around. Venus square Jupiter: I wouldn't sweat this one at all, because it really doesn't tell you much. The other aspects Sun/Moon - Venus/Saturn.. and Venus/Mars - are much more significant. But of course the orbs matter. You didn't include those, so I can't comment.
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Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 03, 2012 08:06 PM
quote: what if both partners have sun square moon natally also in the same signs? would each already be used to it or would it twice as bad?
NOT at all! It's not bad. God LOL This is not a "bad" aspect. If you both have it natal - then - all the more so - it is *good*, not bad. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 03, 2012 08:10 PM
Something else to look at is - which houses are the Sun/Moon in? My Moon is in Capricorn in the 7th house (The house of Libra). Libras love me even though their Sun squares my Moon. I think it makes the square easier. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 7594 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 03, 2012 09:27 PM
I like Sun sq Moon personally, but then my Venus would be squaring their Sun as well. Their Moon sq my Sun..I don't remember ever having this. My Venus/Moon sq their Aries Sun (on my MC), we never argue. I adore them.I agree with Betty on Moon opp Venus. I like that one, akin to the conj, yet its somehow magnetic, an attraction from one picking up where the other left off. Natural partners. Venus trine Mars natural easy attraction, in tune with each other on a sexual/creative level, one puts out the bait & the other runs with it, both to their satisfaction. Nothing crazy or ott going on here. A steady fire that never goes out, but it may not be sparky enough for some. Depends on what you like, what else is going on. Saturn in hard aspect to Venus creates either distaste (rejection) or fear and subsequent control in either overt or covert manner. Venus sq Jupiter, the Jup partner goes overboard in their appreciation/admiration of Venus, can leave Venus feeling adored which is good...The only problem is they end up finding that they value different things. Jupiter keeps wanting to share what they have to give and Venus looks at it and says, thanks, but it's really not my thing. It's not bad. It's a good aspect for the Venus person, esp if they're selfish, because Jup will want to go out of their way for them, when other people wouldn't, and do favors, give gifts. Venus likes it all, but only up to a point. But if they want to screw around Jupiter they're in a good position to do so. IP: Logged |
ProudestLeo Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Puerto Rico Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 04, 2012 07:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop:But of course the orbs matter. You didn't include those, so I can't comment. [/B]
Here's my natal chart: Sun 29°08' Leo Moon 23°20' Virgo Mercury 23°07' Virgo Venus 10°30' Leo Mars 25°18' Taurus Jupiter 00°55' Leo Saturn 19°24' Capricorn Uranus 05°50' Capricorn Neptune 12°05' Capricorn Pluto 15°02' Scorpio Here's hers: Sun 18°57' Sagittarius Moon 16°58' Aquarius Mercury 12°12' Sagittarius Venus 06°03' Scorpio Mars 08°54' Sagittarius Jupiter 14°01' Virgo Saturn 03°38' Aquarius Uranus 12°31' Capricorn Neptune 15°30' Capricorn Pluto 21°15' Scorpio Im not an expert so if anyone can tell me anything else about aspects between us it will be apreciated IP: Logged |
ProudestLeo Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Puerto Rico Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 06, 2012 01:04 PM
Another question, what about Square Venuses?Is it that bad? IP: Logged |
AquarianGirl Newflake Posts: 14 From: USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted May 06, 2012 05:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: NOT at all! It's not bad.God LOL This is not a "bad" aspect. If you both have it natal - then - all the more so - it is *good*, not bad.
I thought squares mean difficulty in relating to each other though? Both of us have aqua sun and taurus moon. Hmm but my sun is in 12 and moon in 3, his sun is in 5 and moon in 8... quote: Originally posted by Libran Kale: Honestly, all you need to know is that most any relationship can work, astrology is just a helpful tool in showing you how WELL it can work.
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slowpoke Knowflake Posts: 198 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted May 06, 2012 06:48 PM
Your concerns are justified, however, you must examine the Synastry chart aspects as a whole to determine the quality of any relationship. http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/comp2f See slowpoke's answer: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/003160.html
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ProudestLeo Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Puerto Rico Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 06, 2012 08:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by slowpoke: Your concerns are justified, however, you must examine the Synastry chart aspects as a whole to determine the quality of any relationship. http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/comp2f See slowpoke's answer: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/003160.html
I Love Cafe Astrology's synastry but theres a little problem I've observed...It does not give you sun-moon aspects, wich are supposed to be some of the most important right? IP: Logged |
slowpoke Knowflake Posts: 198 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted May 07, 2012 03:59 PM
The Moon moves about 12 deg. per day, this is a lot of distance. Astrologers are perfectionist, it is difficult for many astrologers, to accurately calculate the position of the Moon without knowing the precise birthdate data. So giving information about the Moon without that data is a mute issue. Synastry Astrology aspect combos come in sets of two: Squares between two people: People who have squares in their natal are defensive. Probably for good reason, other people object to the natal person's way of doing or saying things - and the natal person takes a defensive posture. This is, also, true for Synastry squares. Sun & Moon - This is by far one of the best planet pairing for people wanting to do things together. The dominate rolls can be interchangeable but normally the Sun does the leading with Moon accepting the Sun's lead. When these two are in square, then the Moon would rather buck the system and the Sun objects. (This is common stuff). Look at the rest of the chart. It is possible to have another Sun Moon aspect present too, and that aspect could be any aspect imaginable. A conjunction, sextile or trine could change the composition. Then look to harmonious Venus parings, Neptune pairings and, Pluto pairings, these pairings have similar emotional impact and may also improve on the area of the emotions. Look to favorable aspects surrounding the planets Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn - these planet are similar to the Sun, in that the impulse is to persuade. These aspects indicate smoother communication abilities that help ease the tension of the Sun square Moon. Moon opposition Venus: In Synastry Astrology, this is like two positive ends of two magnets trying to meet. And like a person trying to press the magnets together, the two people feel and know their effort is futile. This is similar to Moon square Saturn, but the difference is that the Moon Venus combo wants to be together, where as in the Moon square Saturn generates an instinct warning to both parties to stay away. Again look to the rest of the Synastry aspects for support. But first understand, that the Moon 180 Venus will not allow you to be together in the manner you would like. A heavy does of Jupiter or Uranus (not necessarily aspecting each other) needs to be present. The essence of these planets helps you to be flexible with the condition while allowing you to remain together. Venus trine Mars: This is an aspect indicator that benefits any type of Synastry relationship, but it has one drawback. The essence of this energy does not compel individuals to be together in a manner that lovers would like to feel. Instead, it stands better as a support element. Both the Venus person and the Mars person like to offer and receive gifts, tokens and or, physical pleasures from each other in a manner that genuinely says, I appreciate you being here. And should this unit breakup, the individuals will keep the memories of those moments that the Venus trine Mars aspect created. Venus opposition Saturn: Venus (receives) Saturn (restricts). Synastry speaking, these individuals will grow into a pattern where Venus still wants from Saturn - what Saturn may have given in the past, but Saturn is no longer able to give. The true nature of Saturn may now be surfacing (but this is hard to tell). This is a natural occurrence, for Saturn, from being together for a long period of time and learning what one has come to dislike about the other and, learning how to live with it. Again, look to the rest of the Synastry aspects for support. Favorable aspects with either parties Moon, Venus and or, Jupiter (not necessarily aspects with each other) may have the potential to set Venus 180 Saturn on the back burner. Venus square Jupiter: In the Synastry World, you are drawn to each other but, you may come to expect too much in terms of luck and fortune as a couple. If there are favorable aspect indicators with other planets to Venus and Jupiter too, then the situation becomes - you win some - you loose some. Good aspects to the Moon help you accept the down turns with an optimistic point of view. Heads up! Synastry aspect Sun conjunct Jupiter is the one aspect that has the potential to override many (not all) stressful aspect possibilities. However, if that conjunction is coupled with squares, then all bets are off. slowpoke
See slowpoke's answer: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/003160.html
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ProudestLeo Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Puerto Rico Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 08, 2012 02:37 PM
Where can I find accurate moon charts?IP: Logged |