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posted May 06, 2012 12:42 PM            

I am glad for all info on the matter, though, as all info helps me get insight!

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posted May 06, 2012 12:42 PM            

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Originally posted by cappy1277:
@Ami I would cancel out cancer moon because like Doux said, cancer is such a self absorbed sign. Pisces- yeah I could see it. Taurus is exalted in the moon so it is extra sensitive and empathetic but I think it would depend on other placements. My friend and mother are aries with taurus moons and they are self centered.

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posted May 06, 2012 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by cappy1277:
@Ami Gotcha'

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Yes, Cappy, that was my original point but I did get some interesting info on other things, so that was good

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posted May 06, 2012 01:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Taineberry:
A moon chiron aspect is an indicator of empathy in a natal chart and this becomes even more pronounced if neptune is also involved. If you think about it, true empathy can only exist if you when you understand the suffering of another person. And how do you achieve that understanding? It is only through having suffered yourself. The moon chiron person will have known emotional suffering and if they have integrated this aspect well, they will have developed the capacity to become a wounded healer as a result of their ability to understand and feel another persons pain, and it use the wisdom and experience they have gained in dealing with their own pain to help them. If neptune is present, the ability to merge with the other person is enhanced as the chiron moon person will possess extreme sensitivity to the energy of those around them. Water signs, trines, and conjunctions will turn this person into a human sounding board who will physically respond on a molecular level to another's suffering and may be able to heal through touch or thought. They may often feel overwhelmed in crowded places, and will need to withdraw in solitude often.

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WOW Taine--fantastic post. I forgot about Chiron! Thanks xx

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posted May 06, 2012 01:42 PM            

Ex: my son is autistic. His social skills suck...lol. its just not in him sometimes. Dr' s want to slap a label on you & medicate. Not I...lol. but why not offer behavior modification therapy as an option first? Sort of like making him practice being empathetic & sociable...now granted he is low spectrum so he is not severe & this doesn't work for all but we can teach our kids & others traits of empathy & sensitivity.

posted May 06, 2012 01:54 PM            

The most abusive friendship/relationship I had involved a Cancer Sun/Moon dude. He was incredibly narcissistic, and feelings were only important if they involved his own. Then again, he had a Mars/Saturn aspect that probably exemplified his behavior. I know another Cancer moon(Virgo sun), and while she is not abusive, she is one of those people who are draining to be around after a while.

But I'm sure that some healthy aspects and upbringing can eliminate this.

posted May 06, 2012 02:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I did not make the use of the word empathy clear. I was thinking in terms of a sociopath in the clinical sense of lack of empathy--not a self absorption kind of thing.

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When speaking about Moon signs only, I don't think lack of empathy, in the clinical sociopathical sense can be determined with the Moon sign alone. Harsh aspects to the Moon, maybe.
Just not sure which aspects. I know empathic people with all kinds of Moons really. The whole chart has to be taken into consideration anyway.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Scorpio Moon would be unique with the Water Moons.I think you could have a low level of empathy with the Scorpio moon.

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If strictly talking about lack of empathy in the clinical sociopathical sense ... a Scorpio Moon with harsh aspects could have a tendency to magnify negative traits of this sign and maybe in the worst case, make someone a clinical sociopath. But again, the whole chart has to be taken into consideration, as too the maturity level of that person (we're all growing). And I agree that upbringing can do a lot as well.

In my experience, I'm biased as I've only met empathic Scorpio Moons, so far. I don't have their TOB so I can't find out what the Moon aspects are. I have Scorpio Moon conjunct Pluto myself too and I've been told I'm empathic and compassionate. But I also have a very strict inner code which is mostly based on self-reflection and transformation for the better. In certain cases, I can be very hard and unforgiving when this code is being challenged.

Lame excuses and sob stories in order to avoid self reflection doesn't cut it for me. To me it feels like giving a person painkillers because that person has a thorn in his toe. To me, certain emotions in certain situations only serve a superficial purpose. I feel "trapped" and sometimes I see no other way than to walk away, which can come across as cold & unempathic.

posted May 06, 2012 02:57 PM            

My moon is almost unaspected. Maybe, that is why. I am such a softie.

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posted May 06, 2012 03:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Taineberry:
A moon chiron aspect is an indicator of empathy in a natal chart and this becomes even more pronounced if neptune is also involved. If you think about it, true empathy can only exist if you when you understand the suffering of another person. And how do you achieve that understanding? It is only through having suffered yourself. The moon chiron person will have known emotional suffering and if they have integrated this aspect well, they will have developed the capacity to become a wounded healer as a result of their ability to understand and feel another persons pain, and it use the wisdom and experience they have gained in dealing with their own pain to help them. If neptune is present, the ability to merge with the other person is enhanced as the chiron moon person will possess extreme sensitivity to the energy of those around them. Water signs, trines, and conjunctions will turn this person into a human sounding board who will physically respond on a molecular level to another's suffering and may be able to heal through touch or thought. They may often feel overwhelmed in crowded places, and will need to withdraw in solitude often.

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posted May 06, 2012 04:07 PM            

She has a hard time hurting people's feelings or saying no so she can spread herself too thin, lead people on and lie.

She had a boyfriend of 2 years but was leading her ex on the whole time to spare his feelings. She was cheating on her bf all the time but didn't want to hurt his feeling by breaking up him.