posted May 07, 2012 04:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Something very interesting that I noticed is that almost all the people I know with Mars in the 8th are late bloomers (at least 4 people).

I am not sure if it's really connected to this placement but I've found it to be quite surprising.

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posted May 07, 2012 06:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Hey! We are twins. hehe.
I barely started wearing real heels until I was 24. I'll be 29 soon and I still feel like I need a real excuse to dress up. I'm kinda the type that likes being in comfy sweats and a hair in a bun at home. But I will go all out when I'm attending a party.

I also, repressed my sexuality as a teen through college because like lonake said, I used that energy in my education and career. I'm really glad I did that instead of spending my time online chatting and blah blah. lol

I was really focused and as soon as my sexual nature came roaring, I kinda lost a lot of my ....um fire.

Sigh...I can't seem to balance the two.

Yeah, I still don't care for women that wear obvious push up bras or show their cleavages off. Idk, I have this image of a baboon showing off it's but big red butt to get some. Lol...Sounds weird I know, but that's what I think everytime a girl seems to try too hard. I kinda feel sorry for her, like jeez do you really have nothing else to offer? Maybe a profound conversation? Maybe emotional support? Idk something, anything other than body parts and fake **** .

Oh another analogy might be the used car salesman using gimmicks to get customers.
That's another one I think about.

I just don't have respect for women like that.

Sorry off topic rant..

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It's OK! It's not off-topic I think. I'm glad we can connect about it.

It's funny how I have felt nearly the exact same way about sexuality and flirting. I really feel it's unnecessary to use over-sexualization to get guys. I intensely dislike it when I see women on TV or otherwise showing off their breasts to the point where I wonder if I am prudish. But then I realize that I'm actually somewhat of a feminist, so that's why. I also just think it looks terrible! And not because I am not 'sexual' but because it just *does* to me. It's almost shameful for me to see that happening. I have issues where I can easily rotate between being feminine and masculine. I don't have gender identity problems, but I'm a very masculine woman who is sometimes unhappy with feeling forced to feminize my appearance. So perhaps THIS is actually why I dislike over-sexualization of women. Maybe because I myself do not want to fall victim to this, if I go with being feminine versus being masculine? Ahhh it's so confusing! Oh well.

LOL I hope this isn't inappropriate of me but it's very difficult for me to repress my sexuality... I actually have Mars opposition my 2nd house planets and I feel that this is a total indicator that if I give into my sex drive and superficial urges I will not be very successful with my personal missions in life, or my career. I'm totally the same!
But like I said it can be hard for me to repress it. That's why I stay away from men for now. I just know myself, and I know that doing that 'high school sweetheart' crap is NOT for me. Guys my age honestly cannot handle me, which makes me kind of sad but not really. I think people around me are disturbed by this, but younger guys do not understand the more complicated aspects of sex and dating, thus why I just avoid them altogether!

I can alternate between being, as I've said, very masculine in dress to pretty feminine in dress. Maybe I just do it for fun. Maybe it's from my Mars. Who knows. :P So like you, I sometimes go from being zero-sexy to 90% sexy... when I feel like it that is. I kind of like appearing on the tough side, yet remaining beautiful at the same time.

posted May 07, 2012 11:27 AM            

i definitely felt uncomfortable in my own skin from about 18-25...HATE drawing attention to myself. im 5'11 so i never wear heels anyway, im as low key as possible.

i have 1st house scorpio and a LOT of planets in 7th house aries. id say i have an overtly masculine air about me physically...i only dress down..jeans. tees etc. still manage to get unwanted attention from men though. most of my friends are guys who are unwillingly placed in the friend zone, which makes interaction uncomfortable if they dont heed my boundaries. i have to regularly remind them, which is kind of disappointing.

the biggest love of my life was a taurus male sex addict which eventually broke us up...im not that highly strung...i prefer more productive outlets, sometimes. people just do not believe me. at all.

posted May 07, 2012 01:27 PM            

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[QUOTE] I kinda feel sorry for her, like jeez do you really have nothing else to offer? Maybe a profound conversation? Maybe emotional support? Idk something, anything other than body parts and fake **** .

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:

...because that's what guys want from girls...profound conversation. That's why they like Megan Fox.

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Yup that's right "most" men treat women as objects and "most" women ALLOW that to happen and objectify themselves.

You demand nothing, and so you get exactly that in return..

If you have nothing else to offer than all the props to you, but if you have a few neurons and want to be loved for that then....don't stoop so low.

posted May 07, 2012 01:39 PM            

Again, I guess for me there is a time and place for these things. I also cannot at all get near a guy just because he looks good or says nice things. I need to KNOW and I mean scorpio-know if he's trustwrothy and genuinely cares, otherwise sorry no dice. And I don't feel bad either.

I feel like when I'm comfortable with a man my sexuality will be fulfilling. I don't want to just get things and urges over with because that's a half assed job and I wouldn't be satisfied.

I want to be with someone mind, body, and soul kinda thing. I know, cliched and idealistic huh? Got to have some idealism somewhere in life. Right? I pick love and marriage to be overly idealistic. If I'm not expecting a lot I know I'll get something and someone I won't be satisfied with.

posted May 07, 2012 03:11 PM            

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We're of kindred spirit dreaming111

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Hehe. Yay!
Another twin!

posted May 07, 2012 03:20 PM            

I can kinda get what your saying. I was a tomboy pretty much all my life, I still am to some point.I find when i "doll" myself up, no one takes me serious. When i have something important to do, or get done, I really limit any "hotness" that might get in the way lol

I pull my hair back in a classy updo,very limited makeup,and i take on the day!

I have a Leo asc,and Cap sun,Cap merc so that helps me get my point across, and people respect my point of view and ideas, usually say I am intelligent and a leader of sorts.

posted May 07, 2012 09:52 PM              

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If you have nothing else to offer than all the props to you, but if you have a few neurons and want to be loved for that then....don't stoop so low.

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Ah, the joy of having Moon square Venus.

If they act like they're actually interested in engaging your mind, it's only a means to get into your pants. That's how they're wired. It's not only towards me either; I see it all the time.

If they're not targeting your sexuality for themselves, then their interest in you probably has something to do with pimping you out & getting $$$ out of it so that they can get more girls. OR they pretend to like talking to you so that they can use you to get to your better-looking friends/acquaintances. Haha, sorry I have Mars square Pluto so maybe I see them in a harsh light but Mars trine Saturn keeps it real.

posted May 08, 2012 12:49 AM            

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[QUOTE]If you have nothing else to offer than all the props to you, but if you have a few neurons and want to be loved for that then....don't stoop so low.

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I have moon square venus, mars trine pluto. Idk if that plays any part...

But well I'm going to wait til I get married to give anything up for a man. If he can wait then he's my man, if he can't then I was better off without him.

Can you imagine being married to a man that puts sex before everything? If say you were dead tired, or got into a bitter fight with him as most marital couples do, what is he going to do? Is he going to get tired and ditch me for a coworker? Is he going to divorce me? See if his mind is geared that way then thank god he's leaving sooner rather than after 20 years of wasted time with him.

Sometimes even if you want to, you won't be in a position to sleep with you husband. It's a reality.

I don't need a man that is fickle and only wants ass and t1ts to be anywhere near me.

I'm not looking for that kind of man in the first place. So when the majority want that and would not like to get involved with me for my "wanting to wait for marriage" good dang riddance. They do the job of filtering themselves out for me. Trust me all that shines is not gold. He might be cute and "ooooh so dang perfect" until he becomes perfect for his slutty coworker. lol

So yeah stating upfront that I'm waiting still does nothing to push guys away, on the contrary they like the challenge. It's lame. So now I pretend to have slept around to get info on them and what they have done. lol...I know I'm sly, just doing my homework. I kinda coax them into these crazy conversations etc. O

I don't care if I'm against the grain, and men only want booty. I demand a good man period. When I get old and wrinkly will he be the type the still sees beauty in me? I know the ass, booty men won't be around. I'm not even gonna go there. lol

I think we set our standards. If we relent now then they know that we will just settle. I only need one man not an army.

I'm very practical and not washed away by love like feelings. I want to make sure that it's as secure of a partnership as any even business partnership would be. I'm not going to be weak and give in.

Generally men are embarrassed to admit they haven't slept around. So if you tell them you have slept around, and they still admit to being a virgin, well then I have a potential.

posted May 08, 2012 12:56 AM            

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I don't see the difference. Most women/girls have had to go through this, at some point.

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posted May 08, 2012 05:32 PM            

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It IRKS me when women oversexualize themselves....meaning their hanging out on top and too short bottoms. There are other ways of accentuating your feminine without looking trashy. I grew up in a military family & modesty was enforced by my father. He used to tell me that there are certain things you only show behind closed doors & that includes your body.

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posted May 08, 2012 11:51 PM            

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It seems like some women treat life as a race...that whoever adorns themselves or wears less, wins. They just don't realize that sometimes the prize may not be worth it.

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Especially if the men are so vapid and underdeveloped that skimpy clothes, boobs and butts are ALL they think about.

posted May 09, 2012 12:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Especially if the men are so vapid and underdeveloped that skimpy clothes, boobs and butts are ALL they think about.

But hey some women are like that. For the sake of the rest of us I hope they pair up faster just as I hope people start coming out of the closet. It would save us a hell of a lot of trouble if we knew exactly what we had to work with.

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Lol..so true. The pickings are slim out here. It doesn't get any better as you get older and the pain of disappoint is still as great as one is younger. It's relentless..I just rather not..lol

posted September 14, 2012 08:44 PM            

I've read other people's comments that they've noticed those with 8th house Mars tend to be "late bloomers." That certainly wasn't the case with me.

I had my first period 2 months after my 10th birthday. By the time I was 11 years old, I was nearing a C cup. Boys acted stupid and said stupid things to me but it seemed like they respected the girls who were flat chested which further flustered me. I felt so self-conscious because I was thin and had big boobs. In high school I became a D cup by 15 and a DD by 17 and any amount of attention I received from the opposite sex scared the heck out of me because I always attracted the scariest/most aggressive males of all ages. There were men my parents' age that kept leering at me and my parents had to do a lot of protecting of me just so I don't get "taken advantage of."

I wasn't ever a tomboy but I was always really athletic and enjoyed sports tremendously. I also really like debates because I always killed my opponents. The nerdy boys weren't attractive to me but I was always very friendly with them and got along better with intellectuals. The jocks wanted me but had no way to talk to me because I wouldn't give them the time of day because most of them weren't smart. I spent a lot of my time as a loner and had few friends. It wasn't until I entered college that I had a ton of guys chase me like crazy in a nice way, left and right. But I was overwhelmed by that and hid myself even further away.

In my 2nd semester in college, I logged onto the school's Facebook-like email forum site. I'm not sure what to call it but it was a way that people at school could socialize with each other. Anyway, I got messaged by a random boy whom I talked with and neither of us had pictures of each other. After talking for 2 weeks and sensing that we can get along, the boy asked for my picture which I sent him my school picture. He sent me a picture of him making a goofy face. I thought he was tremendously handsome. He thought I was divine. We met up and love pretty much exploded from our pores. We were together for 7 years straight. Neither of us strayed.

posted September 14, 2012 10:53 PM            

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The one thing that I have noticed is that people have become so loose with their sexuality...I just can't wrap my head around. I've haven't always done perfect thingsbut my eexperiences have brought me to my way of thinking. Sex should be sacred between humans that share a soulful bond in some way. That's my take on it...

That's cool they way your relationship started...all the physical pretenses were stripped & you were able to focus on other aspects of your personalities

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To be frank, I didn't think about what Sean (my ex) looked like when I was chatting with him. He messaged me out of the blue and we talked about cartoons LOL! There was a lot of light hearted topics we talked about and it never crossed my mind that we'd ever meet. I didn't think he had it in mind to get with the random girl he was talking with either. There was a girl chasing him at that time (a Virgo and he's a Leo Scorpio Virgo) and he wasn't into her and was taking a break from dating. I do have Gemini Venus so when I interact with others, it's purely out of intellectual interest and nothing romantic on my part. Looking back, it probably was karma that we met when we did and the way we did. I had long suspected that he and were married to each other in our past lives and it was unfinished so he had to find me in this lifetime.

I don't criticize people for any sexual indiscretion. As long as I'm not involved with someone I find objectionable, I could care less who does what. I really don't care how people conduct their private sex lives but I absolutely object to the way society have flung the gates open to making sex something as cheap, public, and casual and encourages others, esp. people around my age to see it as just something to brag about like winning the Nobel prize. I hate hearing people talk about their sex lives in open spaces and forums, and I hate hearing my friends talk about their sex lives with me. I honestly don't care what others do in the bedroom, but it should just stay there. That's why sex is in the 8th house which is the most hidden house. Sex must be deep, mysterious, and intense because it's a powerful form of connecting with others. No connection is alike and it carries the person's hidden and deep energies that only could be felt when the 8th house is activated. But society has shifted to being something of a 3rd house matter of casual, quick, temporary, and emotionless.

posted September 15, 2012 11:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Something very interesting that I noticed is that almost all the people I know with Mars in the 8th are late bloomers (at least 4 people).

I am not sure if it's really connected to this placement but I've found it to be quite surprising.

Other than that, I can't answer your question since I don't have this placement myself.

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Yes, I read that 8th House planets are late bloomers.

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posted September 19, 2012 10:26 AM            

For example, Marilyn Monroe had 8th house Mars in Pisces... she definitely wasn't a late bloomer by any stretch of the imagination! She first got married at 14 or 15 to an Aries, who didn't seem to appreciate her much. Well, it didn't seem like the men she was around ever really appreciated her much.

Maybe that's the main component of having an 8th house Mars- your intentions, motivations, and aims aren't easily recognized by others and worst off, probably misunderstood and mistaken for something completely different. I know that's true with me.

It seems like it's true with some of the posters on this thread... being mistaken for being sexual when just acting normal. I get that a lot and I don't like it. There's nothing I can really "do" about it. I get objectified even when I don't look or act remotely seductive/sexy/flirtatious!

posted September 19, 2012 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by a_may_gemini:

For example, Marilyn Monroe had 8th house Mars in Pisces... she definitely wasn't a late bloomer by any stretch of the imagination! She first got married at 14 or 15 to an Aries, who didn't seem to appreciate her much. Well, it didn't seem like the men she was around ever really appreciated her much.

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Ha, I have the same placement - Mars in 8th house in Pisces. I'm probably the polar opposite of Marilyn. Well, I don't have her shape at all... more tall, thin, redhead than curvy, hourglass, blonde. lol.

I'm definitely hidden when it comes to romance/sexuality. There's a real fear of being vulnerable to someone else and getting hurt or rejected.

I'd say when it comes to being a late bloomer... yeah - I didn't have my first kiss til 18, or first relationship til 21, still waiting on my first love at 29. I've been "approached" and hawked since I was very young by older/unsavory/unavailable characters... it kinda ruined the innocent concept of it all for me.