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Topic: What Makes for Violence In a Relationship?
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted May 10, 2012 02:01 PM
  
Wow--just looking fast but his Nessus is conj her ASC. If that is not classic, I don't know what is.------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted May 10, 2012 02:09 PM
I tell you that you can't fool around with Nessus.In anything dark like abuse/murder etc, I think Nessus will be prominent.------------------
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scrappydog
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posted May 10, 2012 03:10 PM
Ive had mars square pluto 1* and it got violent both ways a few times. He was pluto, I was mars. It was never anything extreme though.
I dont understand moon square moon for violence?
The most violent, abusive relationship which almost got me killed, we had none of the three and I was never violent with him, I truely believe he was a psychopath. He had natal mars in scorp opp saturn in taurus 1* And in a t square with his aqua moon. That opp was conj my asc/desc axis by 1*! His saturn conj my asc in taurus and his mars conj my desc in scorp. His mars was also conj my scorp mercury and his abuse was very mental too. Natally he had mercury square pluto almost exact so he was like this anyway, but our synastry seemed to intensify it. Btw this was a short term relationship and this man was sent to prison for felony assault of me. I later learned that he assaulted his x girlfriend too. So it wasnt just syanstry, it was his evil natal potential also.
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cappy1277
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posted May 10, 2012 03:43 PM
Scrappydog...same thing here. I knew nothing of his past because if I did, I never would've gotten involved. He spent years in prison and always came back to haunt me. I was eventually awarded a stay away order for 10 years and they made him do his time in NY. Needless to say, he came out & started to date someone else. He ended up stabbing her ten times and went back to prison. He came out...they need a PSA about men like this...they shouldn't be allowed to be involved in relationships.IP: Logged |
FireMoon
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From: Minnesota
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posted May 10, 2012 05:19 PM
I had moon square mars and moon opposite mars with my ex. (My moon in Sag opposite his Gemini mars, his Leo moon square my Taurus mars) And my mars opposite his Pluto. Overall, it was a very toxic, hostile, unhealthy relationship. It was unstable from the beginning, but even when we were getting along we couldn’t seem to go a prolonged amount of time without getting into a fight, and these ran deep emotionally even over stupid petty things. It got violent once but nothing extreme. I have moon opposite mars and mars opposite Pluto natally (both by 8 degrees but I still consider them difficult aspects), and he has sun opposite moon both square Pluto, so obviously we were working out some of our own issues through each other, but it’s definitely not something I ever want to return to or tolerate in future relationships…
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted May 10, 2012 05:25 PM
I have Pluto to Mars in Natal as well as Synastry, both are Trines.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 10, 2012 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I have Pluto to Mars in Natal as well as Synastry, both are Trines.
Trines are very different, Ian. x
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Lonake
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posted May 10, 2012 05:35 PM
Actually trines allow energy to flow in an unimpeded manner.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 10, 2012 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Actually trines allow energy to flow in an unimpeded manner.
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Deliverance
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posted May 10, 2012 06:01 PM
I have Nessus in the 8th EXACTLY opposite my Sun, does that mean I'm vulnerable or perhaps a danger to others?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 10, 2012 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by Deliverance:
I have Nessus in the 8th EXACTLY opposite my Sun, does that mean I'm vulnerable or perhaps a danger to others?
I would say you would go back and forth with wanting to abuse. Do you struggle with this?
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Ami Anne
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posted May 10, 2012 06:10 PM
Thanks Lonake and Cappy for the charts. I will come back and study them. Do you guys want to dialogue?------------------
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Deliverance
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posted May 10, 2012 06:50 PM
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I would say you would go back and forth with wanting to abuse. Do you struggle with this?.
Nope, not at all Ami. The idea of abusing someone is completely abhorrent to me. I've never abused anyone or been abused. Are there any other manifestations of Nessus apart from abuse or cruelty? Since Nessus is so strong in my chart, I'm wondering if it definitely means something negative. IP: Logged |
FireMoon
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From: Minnesota
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted May 10, 2012 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by Deliverance:
Nope, not at all Ami. The idea of abusing someone is completely abhorrent to me. I've never abused anyone or been abused. Are there any other manifestations of Nessus apart from abuse or cruelty? Since Nessus is so strong in my chart, I'm wondering if it definitely means something negative.
I'm curious to know about this too, I've never looked up the placement of Nessus in my own chart or its meaning, but I just did and wow, it makes numerous squares in my chart  I don't want to intrude on this topic so I'm going to start a new thread about Nessus in personal readings or the astrology forum, and would appreciate your input Ami if you have time... IP: Logged |
zanarkand112
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From: Maryville, TN USA
Registered: Jan 2010
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posted May 10, 2012 07:45 PM
Mars Uranus in hard aspect can be troublesome. It indicates instability a lot of times in relationships. Mars and Uranus together are symbolic for guns, knives, and explosions. Do a quick Google search if you don't believe me. Don't have any personal experiences to share though.Moon Pluto in hard aspect can pinpoint emotional abuse or manipulation. Saturn in hard aspect to Sun, Moon, or Venus can also be condescending. It can indicate someone who invalidates the other person like a superior parent scolding the "naughty child". Saturn Mars in hard aspect can show repressed rage... Heavy Neptune in synastry or composite can show a redeemer savior type relationship. The other person does something horrible to the other person for their own good or to "save them". It shows deception, and encourages couples in abusive relationships to accept the abuse because that other person "really loves them". It can also encourage the victim to feel feel quite at home being dominated or deceived, as if they somehow deserve what is happening to them despite how disillusioned they are. Lets also not forget drug or alcohol abuse that are prominent in a lot of Neptune heavy relationships. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 10, 2012 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by zanarkand112:
Mars Uranus in hard aspect can be troublesome. It indicates instability a lot of times in relationships. Mars and Uranus together are symbolic for guns, knives, and explosions. Do a quick Google search if you don't believe me. Don't have any personal experiences to share though.Moon Pluto in hard aspect can pinpoint emotional abuse or manipulation. Saturn in hard aspect to Sun, Moon, or Venus can also be condescending. It can indicate someone who invalidates the other person like a superior parent scolding the "naughty child". Saturn Mars in hard aspect can show repressed rage... Heavy Neptune in synastry or composite can show a redeemer savior type relationship. The other person does something horrible to the other person for their own good or to "save them". It shows deception, and encourages couples in abusive relationships to accept the abuse because that other person "really loves them". It can also encourage the victim to feel feel quite at home being dominated or deceived, as if they somehow deserve what is happening to them despite how disillusioned they are. Lets also not forget drug or alcohol abuse that are prominent in a lot of Neptune heavy relationships.
Hi there Zanarkard
Brilliant as usual! xx
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Deliverance
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posted May 10, 2012 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
I'm curious to know about this too, I've never looked up the placement of Nessus in my own chart or its meaning, but I just did and wow, it makes numerous squares in my chart I don't want to intrude on this topic so I'm going to start a new thread about Nessus in personal readings or the astrology forum, and would appreciate your input Ami if you have time...
Hmm, I didn't intend to 'intrude' either. Ami stated that "Nessus is the asteroid of the abuser", I've seen this posted elsewhere also. As mentioned, I have Nessus exactly opposite my Sun, and themes of abuse are not a factor in my life, never have been. It just doesn't resonate with me at all. I'm not suggesting that Nessus = abuser is wrong, just wondering if there are other manifestation of this asteroid. That is all. Apologies if I've intruded, just wanted to ask a question.....as you were. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 10, 2012 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by Deliverance:
Hmm, I didn't intend to 'intrude' either. Ami stated that "Nessus is the asteroid of the abuser", I've seen this posted elsewhere also. As mentioned, I have Nessus exactly opposite my Sun, and themes of abuse are not a factor in my life, never have been. It just doesn't resonate with me at all. I'm not suggesting that Nessus = abuser is wrong, just wondering if there are other manifestation of this asteroid. That is all. Apologies if I've intruded, just wanted to ask a question.....as you were.
I don't know, Deliverance
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Ami Anne
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posted May 10, 2012 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
I'm curious to know about this too, I've never looked up the placement of Nessus in my own chart or its meaning, but I just did and wow, it makes numerous squares in my chart I don't want to intrude on this topic so I'm going to start a new thread about Nessus in personal readings or the astrology forum, and would appreciate your input Ami if you have time...
Ok, Sure FM x ------------------
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cappy1277
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posted May 10, 2012 08:59 PM
Ask away ami....if its get to be too much I will let you know  IP: Logged |
FireMoon
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From: Minnesota
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted May 10, 2012 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by Deliverance:
Hmm, I didn't intend to 'intrude' either. Ami stated that "Nessus is the asteroid of the abuser", I've seen this posted elsewhere also. As mentioned, I have Nessus exactly opposite my Sun, and themes of abuse are not a factor in my life, never have been. It just doesn't resonate with me at all. I'm not suggesting that Nessus = abuser is wrong, just wondering if there are other manifestation of this asteroid. That is all. Apologies if I've intruded, just wanted to ask a question.....as you were.
Sorry Deliverance, I honestly wasn't trying to imply that you were intruding! Looking up my natal Nessus was just a new discovery for me and I quoted your response since my question was similar to yours, and it resonated with me, and I didn't want to intrude on your question as well... Again, I'm sorry if it seemed like I was trying to imply anything negative! I'm also very frazzled at the moment due to it being finals week and not getting any sleep so my communication skills are probably not all that great at the moment lol
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Ami Anne
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posted May 10, 2012 09:04 PM
I am cool with anyone "intruding". I am an earth void and so the opposite of anal  Ask away, we can go where we are led and then come back to where we started. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted May 10, 2012 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by cappy1277:
Ask away ami....if its get to be too much I will let you know
Thanks Cappy! xx
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ShyVirgo1979
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posted May 10, 2012 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Please, give personal info on any of these or add others! I am so glad to get your opinions.
Just for kicks I looked up these placements with my ex husband and sure enuf we have mars square pluto in synastry with 0 degree orb. We were together 8 yrs and we fought SO much. During my divorce which turned pretty nasty he did grab my wrist and backed me into a corner. Altho that was the only time he put his hands on me. It was mostly a verbal thing. Just thought I should tell u again how accurate u r IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted May 10, 2012 11:23 PM
I'm confused about Nessus, too. Everyone has this in their chart so....everyone has the potential to become abusive?IP: Logged |
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