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Sashar
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posted May 12, 2012 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sashar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a month before I run away from home out of sheer embarrassment of the situation... under the guise of exploring the world.

This was my ex husband's best friend and I fell head over heals for him... and told him, with absolutely no response from him. v.v I don't want to give up, but I need to stick to my plan. I've been trying for years to no avail, and have a month left before I give it up for good and just leave to try and live my life and repair somewhere far far away from this situation.

I'm at the point where I want something so much that I'm absolutely frozen as to what to do. Not because I don't have any ideas, but because I have too many and I just don't know what is the correct path and what will just screw things up beyond recognition.

Yes, I know... we don't have great synastry and after years of trying I should probably just give up anyway. BUT if there is anything you know about any of these placements, aspects, or whatever that would help a chick out in the correct approach to the guy... let me know, and let me know why.

This is our synastry, I'm on the inside, he's on the outside.

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posted May 12, 2012 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You told him and got no response EEEEK that must have been painfully embarrassing
If you have been trying to win him for years what makes you think you can do it in a month ? And Leo rising with a Leo moon and a woman tells him she likes him and he doesn't respond seriously I really don't get it Oh no his Mars is in Libra anyways Maybe he is gay let it go and move on is my advice

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Faith
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posted May 12, 2012 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is he still loyal to your ex? Could that be it?

If I were single I would never get involved with a friend's ex if there were any unresolved feelings making my friend disapprove.

I'm Leo rising, too. Loyalty is big.

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posted May 12, 2012 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sorry to say that this relationship just wont work.

Your Venus is feeling his Eros but his Saturn is playing spoilsport by hurting your Mars, Pluto and Venus super-sexuality. Your JUNO squaring his Mars-Pluto is additional cold water.

It is like chasing a man you think to be virile but who is unfortunately impotent.

You deserve a lot better.

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peachbeigeblue
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posted May 12, 2012 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this guy a Leo or a cancer?

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Sashar
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posted May 12, 2012 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sashar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's a Cancer.
I don't think he's gay... I mean, he's always talking about women and complaining about trying to find a good one. I've known him for a long time, he use to come over my house twice a week for about seven years and talk about curiously personal stuff. Don't get me wrong, if he was gay it would be par for the course with me. XD

It's possible that he's still loyal to my ex, which is why him and I (my ex) broke things off really nicely. Friends who agreed that we just don't work, that kind of thing.

Thank you IQ. I hope you're wrong, but you're pretty good at reading these types of things... so, it's doubtful.

Was hoping there was a trick or secret or something based on his placements that I could use. You know, really underhanded like... because I *want* and that doesn't happen very often to the point that it's made me a little desperate.

le sigh, oh well. Didn't hurt to try. Would have posted in personal reading but I sorta already posted there a while back on a similar topic regarding him and well, I only have a month. Thanks! =D

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posted May 12, 2012 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sashar -

He seems very attached to you since he is the Saturn in a very close (exact!) Saturn-Venus conjunction.
For better or worse - he does not want to let you go.
He is kind of vulnerable here since he sees you as extremely beautiful and Venusian... He is insecure about you.

You also make him happy & brighten up his day since your Jupiter is conj his Sun/Mercury in Cancer. This is a friendship aspect.

My guess is that once he realises that you are literally leaving for good - to start a new life elsewhere.. he will absolutely go into a HUGE panic.

This is based on your synastry coupled with the clinginess of Cancer.

No response from him is not a 'yes' or a 'no'... It's 'nothing'.. and it could well be out of loyalty to his friend.
But he will diss the loyalty if he panics enough over you leaving.

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Odette
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posted May 12, 2012 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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by hurting your Mars, Pluto and Venus super-sexuality.

But he also has Mars/Pluto conjunct so he understands her own drive - even if they are not conj hers by degree.
He wouldn't hurt her sexuality. He is fatherly and protective - being Saturn.
So if anything he would give her sexuality stable ground.
I think this is more healing than hurtful.

I like Saturn aspects.

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Odette
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posted May 12, 2012 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please see this thread:

"Saturn: The Real Love Planet?"
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/208727.html

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posted May 12, 2012 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
But he also has Mars/Pluto conjunct so he understands her own drive - even if they are not conj hers by degree.
He wouldn't hurt her sexuality. He is fatherly and protective - being Saturn.
So if anything he would give her sexuality stable ground.
I think this is more healing than hurtful.

I like Saturn aspects.



haha i'm still trying to catch you :P

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posted May 12, 2012 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say that him not giving a response is a sign he isnt keen on the idea,as a guy i couldnt be with a woman my best friend was with,it would be too weird.

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Odette
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posted May 12, 2012 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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haha i'm still trying to catch you :P

LMAO

I'm waaaaaay too shifty this morning haha

I'm actually about to go and have breakfast with someone, so I'll be back on LL later

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posted May 12, 2012 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
LMAO

I'm waaaaaay too shifty this morning haha

I'm actually about to go and have breakfast with someone, so I'll be back on LL later


i'm never giving up haha

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posted May 12, 2012 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sorry, but I have to agree with IQ here, at least to a certain degree.

I think he might care for your and might like you (your ASC-rulers in conjunction; his Sun conjunct your Jupiter), but he might see you more as a friend (his 11th houseruler conjunct your ASC-ruler).

I donīt see much in terms of romantic or erotic attraction, though due to the Venus-Saturn-aspect there is probably some karmic tie there.
And his Mars/Pluto understands your Venus/Mars/Pluto, but there are no interaspect to manifest the intensity you both have in an interaction with each other.

Also the ruler of his 5th house seems to be unaspected by your planets.

His DESC ruler is conjunt your ASC though which would be a very attractive placement, but it could be that it is a bit wide, which I cannot see from the image. Also it would have to carry the attraction-potential of the whole, as his Venus is also unaspected.
honsestly, unaspected ruler of 5th house AND Venus doesn`t bode to well for romantic sparks, though with the DESC-ruler on your ASC he might be drawn to you, just maybe not being in love with you.

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posted May 12, 2012 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should check your progressed synastry though.
proggressed to progressed
progressed to natal

Look out for
conjunctions and trines (Sometimes oppositions) between

Sun-Venus
Sun-DESC
Venus-Mars
Venus-Venus
Venus-ASC
Mars-DESC

and if thre is a Venus-progression, also look out for Sun-Mars.


EDIT:
only applying aspects with an orb of 2-3 degrees at most.

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Doreen
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posted May 13, 2012 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Listen to IQ he it FABULOUS

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posted May 14, 2012 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireWire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doreen:
... Oh no his Mars is in Libra anyways Maybe he is gay let it go and move on is my advice

Seriously?

Revisit:

quote:
Originally posted by Sashar:

This was my ex husband's best friend.


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Doreen
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posted May 14, 2012 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't mean that men with Mars in Libra are gay but they do tend to be indecisive and you have to take control or they get nothing done
I was just saying maybe he is gay who knows ?

I'm sorry Sashar I didn't know that he was your ex husbands best buddy maybe it's nothing to do with synastry maybe he has morals and wants to do the right thing

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Sashar
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posted May 14, 2012 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sashar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doreen:
I didn't mean that men with Mars in Libra are gay but they do tend to be indecisive and you have to take control or they get nothing done

We're both Libra Mars. XD lol

But really, even with the bad synastry... is there no area that I could lean on to sort of give myself an edge. I don't really mind that I'm running full speed at a brick wall, I just wouldn't mind some advice on which direction the brick walls sits. lol (Hmmm, me thinks this is my Pluto talking in this thread).

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posted May 14, 2012 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My husband and I have Venus-Saturn conjunct exact. I am Venus, and he could have taken me or left me at first. If I hadn't held on and kept trying to get his interest, he would have ignored me forever, no problem.

But he proposed after our first date, before the second.

Once it FINALLY clicked for him...man, Saturn can be slow!...it was DONE.

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posted May 14, 2012 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Men don't cross that line with each other. Even though it's a former relationship for your ex-husband, that's a unwritten no-go zone for most men. That is why you haven't had a response. It doesn't mean that he's not also interested. It means that he's "not going there."

I personally won't go near that with a 39-1/2 foot pole.

There is a popular saying among men: women come and go; brotherhood is forever.

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posted May 14, 2012 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ouch. Maybe I'm not reading this correctly, or missing something, but I'm seeing some very GOOD aspects here. Sun-Moon? Her Venus-Pluto-Mars conjoining his Mars-Eros? Maybe Pluto? Is there some Venus in there? I don't see any degrees listed, so I might be WAY off.

Sure, Saturn's involved, but you need some Saturn.

I get the moralism, but it also seems to me that there IS some stuff really going on here. Leading me to agree that it's not the synastry as much as the situation.

In which case, don't you have to ask: why was this situation chosen?

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posted May 14, 2012 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sashar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

In which case, don't you have to ask: why was this situation chosen?


Karmicly? For him?

Because his mother left him and his siblings with his dad when he was a kid one night and ran off with his dad's friend. Disappeared for about three years before coming back to take care of the kids.

He never understood how/why someone would do that, and even had to have a talk with her to try and understand that issue.

Even if him and I never end up together... he at least has part of his answer (maybe not the leaving the kids part but the other).


For me? psh... don't have a clue.

I kind of feel bad though, because of this issue he's completely cut my ex out of his life. Hoping that if I go away, then maybe he'll come back. Because as much as I *want*... if I can't have, I at least want both to be happy.

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Odette
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posted May 15, 2012 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm seeing some very GOOD aspects

Exactly!

I'm not sure how you got the idea that this was bad synastry.

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posted May 15, 2012 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well if you really are serious about this.. do you know what his favorite food is? If so dig a pit and cover it, and place his favorite food on top, this should work. If it doesn't work,tranquilizers are also highly effective

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