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http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html

The info provided in the link has been my expereince with this conjunction (which is exact.) I am the Saturn, and I have to wonder, when anothers Neptune hits your Saturn, does this person have the ability to take away all the structure in you life? Where you always have stood strong,confident and tall, they come in with a blow of illusion? You end up with the question "Do I really know myself?" This makes you look another time at yourself, maybe a deeper look?


What have your experinces been with this conjunction in Synastry? I would love info from both Neptune and Saturn in this conjunct.


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Neptune = fantasy/illusion

Saturn = restriction/duty/obligation/karmic lesson

The states (exalted, detriment etc.) of the two planets would matter as would the houses where they conjunct as well as aspects to saturn and neptune.

So the answer is it depends on all the above.

Nepute could shatter illusions about duty obligation etc or it could create fantasy or illusion about the nature of duty/obligations/karmic lessions to be learned.

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posted May 16, 2012 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Thefish:
Neptune = fantasy/illusion

Saturn = restriction/duty/obligation/karmic lesson

The states (exalted, detriment etc.) of the two planets would matter as would the houses where they conjunct as well as aspects to saturn and neptune.

So the answer is it depends on all the above.

Nepute could shatter illusions about duty obligation etc or it could create fantasy or illusion about the nature of duty/obligations/karmic lessions to be learned.


Natally, I have Saturn in Sag in H2. It trines my (its ruler)Jupiter in Aries and inconjuncts my Venus in Taurus.


In Synastry, my Saturn sextiles his Pluto and Moon, Squares his Venus. His Neptune trines my Jupiter.

In my case, what do you think Neptune is doing for me?

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I think it's kind of a star-crossed lovers kind of thing,where you were together in the past but this time it didn't quite work out.I think it's quite a spiritual connection--I like the combo of these 2 planets together-I read a lovely interpretations somewhere that said something like---the Saturn person gives form and structure to the Neptune person's dreams--where Neptune serves as the muse and Saturn grounds and brings them back to reality.

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I have experienced this synastry aspect some years ago. His neptune conjunct my saturn (1 orb). Meeting him and having him around me was a very weird experience. I don't think anyone has ever had that much effect on me actually.
Long story short, I was really attracted to him but definitely not in a "he's my type" kind of way. It was more like something I couldn't really control with a lot of fear, and a huge feeling of "i know you from somewhere but I can't remember exactly". I guess, from his behaviour, he felt the same way too. But nothing ever came out of it. None of us ever confessed or anything. He was in a relationship back then. We had classes together during a year, then we both moved to different towns. We sort of kept in touch after that, and I admit I had some hope to at least bring some clarity to whatever we were feeling towards each other. But unexpectedly, his girlfriend got pregnant and last year they had a baby.
So yes, I can totally relate to distance: being several miles away, one of you being married or having a child.
As far as the spirital awakening goes, I discovered astrology by wondering why he made me feel this way and why things were so awkward yet intense. That's when I discovered about synastry, karma and past lives. I knew about past lives and karma before but I never had given much credit to it.
I remember reading about this particular synastry aspect back then, and I sort of had overlooked it because, being born in the late 80s many people are going to have their neptune conjunct my saturn. I still think that this aspect can be enlightening in a synastry comparaison where there already are other "karmic" aspects. (and after reading it thoroughly, I guess that's what she means by "the danse of saturn and neptune in karmic love relationship")
Finally, I can definitely reate to this:

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Originally posted by violet7887:
I mean why would we be meant to have such feelings for another if it is not meant to be.

I've been asking myself this very same question ever since we both moved to different towns and I still have no answer. Lately I've just been thinking that maybe I had to experience this and not by just meeting someone taken, or someone who already has children.. but by going through the process of the person gradually becoming unreachable to me, by slowly reaizing that as time passes by it becomes more and more impossible to actually be with the person (I guess that's saturn conjunct neptune right ? limits, obstacles to an ideal?)

I'm sorry if this is long. I don't know if it answers all the questions you had about it but I definitely hope so

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"Being sure I kew him", " I could feel the intensity back from him as well but you get so many doubts and obstacles", "He tried to start friendly convos with me in the beginning but I cut him off" I can definitely relate to all of this. This to me was the weird, awkward yet intense part of the experience. The first time I saw him, was 6 months before we had classes together. I remember it vividly, walking down the hallway while he was just walking past me in the opposite direction and he just stared at me with a look on his face that definitely made me feel like some alien, some ghost. I admit the first thought that came to my mind was "love at first sight" but I brushed it off as soon as it came, telling myself that maybe this guy looked so shocked because I looked like someone he knew. I didn't knew him back then, he was still a stranger to me. Then six months later, we have classes together. At first I didn't notice him, well I didn't pay much attention to anyone anyway, I was way too focused on what I had to do. But he just kept staring and whenever I turned around, there he was, looking at me. Quickly I could sense that he wanted to tell me something. And the first words he spoke to me, little did I know that they were the beginning of a downward spiral filled with obsession, intensity, confusion, and fear. It felt like home. Whe he was standing next to me, even when we were not talking (and we talked very little, don't know why but there was some barrier that prevented me or him to be at ease with words) it felt like home, and honestly even home doesn't feel this great. It was just the right place to be. You know what they say? about knowing you've found someone special when you can enjoy the silence together. Well that's how it felt for the very few and very short lived moments that we had found ourselves together. You mentioned how somehow he fills very piece in you. Well I can relate to this too. I've neer been a huge believer of finding someone that completes me until I met him. All of this sounds crazy because as I said, there wasn't a lot of communication, and I know I've been giving mysef a very rough time for falling for someone that I concretly didn't know, even though the overall feeling of the situation felt otherwise. But all of this had a downside, even though I was sure that he was feeling something for me, even though he felt like a "missing piece" that I had forgotten about, I had big doubt and was very confused. First I sort of felt very sef conscious sometimes with him around when I was studying, not about my looks but about my intellectual capacity, which was a first for me. He was a bright student , brighter than me, but I've never been bothered by people's intellectual capacities, let alone judge them based on grades.. but still, I didn't want him to view me as someone stupid, or as someone that could be played.., Then, he was in a realtionship, and later on I learned he had already cheated on her several times previously (which just confused me even more..). So there I was, obsessing over someone I loved despite myself, torn between my cold reasoning that he wanted to use me and my gut feelings that were screaming that something had to happen between us. Beause of this, because of the fear of him hurting me nd th doubt surrounding his intentions (which I guess is very present whenever there is saturn present in synastry) I sort of sabotaged any attempt he made to be more affectionate, or to be spend more time with me, asking that same question "Why do you do this?"

When he left, oh my.. when he left, the year that followed was the most chaotic for me emotionally and psychologically. I missed him like I never knew it was possible to miss someone. I could not understand why fate had brought us together only to tear us apart. You talked about dreams. Well I too had weird dreams about him! And that was ven before I was aware I loved him. Besides, I had moved to anoher town, where I was all alone and I had a very hard time fitting in with the people around. I felt completely lost. This and even my good friend coudn't understand why I was feeling so strongly about someone I had never had a relationship with, I was more and more convinced that I was crazy. I auto diagnosed myself with a light depression, and at one point I decided tat I was tired of crying for something that could never happen. I decided to move on to the next stage of grieving you see. So I decided to be my own therapist, and took a rational approach to it. I decided to stop feeling sorry for myself, and blame fate. Certainly this may also have a lot to do with transiting pluto, uranus and saturn touching a lot of my personal planets.. but the point is this story really drained me. I may sound like I'm over exagerating, writing a cheesy soap drama romance etc.. but I truly felt like it took the best of me. I felt so empty .. it was awful. So I had to have some closure, and if I couldn't get it I had to at least create some closure in my mind. I only started to feel better some months ago. But basically I forced myself to ignore him, to not get in touch with him, I forced myself to just face the fact and reality and to accept it.

I dont know what the lessons of this are, and only time will tell if it's over. Concerning my feeling for him? I don't know if they've changed, because I decided notto ackowledge them. Oh sometimes I still miss him liek crazy but I do so less. I'm doing my best to burry them deep down, even suppressing them by telling myself that anyway he doesn't care.. the odd part is that I've never been someone really in touch with my feelings, I mean I have feelings but I don't get overwhelmed by them. Before he came I had never been that much love, and I would never had imagined myself falling this deep for anyone (guess I didn't know I could be this passionate). I don't know if it's the right thing to do karma wise, but so far I've felt better. I won't forget him though, but I won't let myself miss him like I previously did, and the fact that he's away, that I haven't seen him since, and that he's a father now have helped a lot.

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posted May 21, 2012 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ueharaa:
I have experienced this synastry aspect some years ago. His neptune conjunct my saturn (1 orb). Meeting him and having him around me was a very weird experience. I don't think anyone has ever had that much effect on me actually.
Long story short, I was really attracted to him but definitely not in a "he's my type" kind of way. It was more like something I couldn't really control with a lot of fear, and a huge feeling of "i know you from somewhere but I can't remember exactly". I guess, from his behaviour, he felt the same way too. But nothing ever came out of it. None of us ever confessed or anything. He was in a relationship back then. We had classes together during a year, then we both moved to different towns. We sort of kept in touch after that, and I admit I had some hope to at least bring some clarity to whatever we were feeling towards each other. But unexpectedly, his girlfriend got pregnant and last year they had a baby.
So yes, I can totally relate to distance: being several miles away, one of you being married or having a child.
As far as the spirital awakening goes, I discovered astrology by wondering why he made me feel this way and why things were so awkward yet intense. That's when I discovered about synastry, karma and past lives. I knew about past lives and karma before but I never had given much credit to it.
I remember reading about this particular synastry aspect back then, and I sort of had overlooked it because, being born in the late 80s many people are going to have their neptune conjunct my saturn. I still think that this aspect can be enlightening in a synastry comparaison where there already are other "karmic" aspects. (and after reading it thoroughly, I guess that's what she means by "the danse of saturn and neptune in karmic love relationship")
Finally, I can definitely reate to this:

I've been asking myself this very same question ever since we both moved to different towns and I still have no answer. Lately I've just been thinking that maybe I had to experience this and not by just meeting someone taken, or someone who already has children.. but by going through the process of the person gradually becoming unreachable to me, by slowly reaizing that as time passes by it becomes more and more impossible to actually be with the person (I guess that's saturn conjunct neptune right ? limits, obstacles to an ideal?)

I'm sorry if this is long. I don't know if it answers all the questions you had about it but I definitely hope so


I can totally relate to what you're saying because I had a similar experience. Someone's Neptune conjuncted my Saturn, and he affected me in ways no other man has. I am finally over him, but it took 12+ years.

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Violet, what you describe is so eerie because a lot of our interractions were similar.

I don't know what it is about this type of aspect between two people, but I found it to be a heartbreak situation for me, the Saturn person. Somehow, circumstances seemed to conspire to pull us apart. I was with someone when I met him, so I was not available, and then when I broke up with that that someone, and I thought I could pursue the relationship with that guy, he was now in a relationship with someone.

I don't know if the Neptune person experiences it the same way.

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posted May 21, 2012 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ueharaa:

When he left, oh my.. when he left, the year that followed was the most chaotic for me emotionally and psychologically. I missed him like I never knew it was possible to miss someone. I could not understand why fate had brought us together only to tear us apart. You talked about dreams. Well I too had weird dreams about him! And that was ven before I was aware I loved him. Besides, I had moved to anoher town, where I was all alone and I had a very hard time fitting in with the people around. I felt completely lost. This and even my good friend coudn't understand why I was feeling so strongly about someone I had never had a relationship with, I was more and more convinced that I was crazy. I auto diagnosed myself with a light depression, and at one point I decided tat I was tired of crying for something that could never happen. I decided to move on to the next stage of grieving you see. So I decided to be my own therapist, and took a rational approach to it. I decided to stop feeling sorry for myself, and blame fate. Certainly this may also have a lot to do with transiting pluto, uranus and saturn touching a lot of my personal planets.. but the point is this story really drained me. I may sound like I'm over exagerating, writing a cheesy soap drama romance etc.. but I truly felt like it took the best of me. I felt so empty .. it was awful. So I had to have some closure, and if I couldn't get it I had to at least create some closure in my mind. I only started to feel better some months ago. But basically I forced myself to ignore him, to not get in touch with him, I forced myself to just face the fact and reality and to accept it.

I dont know what the lessons of this are, and only time will tell if it's over. Concerning my feeling for him? I don't know if they've changed, because I decided notto ackowledge them. Oh sometimes I still miss him liek crazy but I do so less. I'm doing my best to burry them deep down, even suppressing them by telling myself that anyway he doesn't care.. the odd part is that I've never been someone really in touch with my feelings, I mean I have feelings but I don't get overwhelmed by them. Before he came I had never been that much love, and I would never had imagined myself falling this deep for anyone (guess I didn't know I could be this passionate). I don't know if it's the right thing to do karma wise, but so far I've felt better. I won't forget him though, but I won't let myself miss him like I previously did, and the fact that he's away, that I haven't seen him since, and that he's a father now have helped a lot.


Yes, yes, yes. That's my story too.

Reading you brought back the pain.

What has helped me end this obsession is, I have said to myself that there was something wounded and twisted in me that was using him, the Neptune person, to beat me over the head. He was just a mirror for my feelings of not being lovable and deserving. Once I identified him as such, I was able to let go and move on.

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posted May 21, 2012 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also really hope that at least one neptune person comes to share their expereince with this conjunction. I would REALLY like to know what this is like for them.

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isn't this a generational aspect?

your stories remeinded me of someone i knew....can't do the math but def more than a decade....i don't have his information UNFORTUNATLY....i just know that his birthday was mid nov and that he was two years older than me?
i always attributed it to our sun oppositions...but idk....

can some of you post synastry charts?

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posted May 21, 2012 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Belage,
sure 12 years is a lot, but I can understand how difficult it can be to simply forget about such a person. I once started a topic, asking if there was anyway to know through synastry aspect what type of lssons you had to learn from the person, as I wanted to simply b done with it and be able to move forward, and someone rightly said that we just don't forget someone with whom we share a "connection", however ununderstable this connection can be.
And you said something that applied to me as well
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I have said to myself that there was something wounded and twisted in me that was using him, the Neptune person, to beat me over the head. He was just a mirror for my feelings of not being lovable and deserving.




That is exactly the conclusion I've come to. As I said, after several months of crying, yearning, not understing the pull and the turn of circumstances... I decide to come to an end with it, so I ask myself "why?" "why do you feel so much pain?" it wasn't just any kind of grief over a loss or pain only caused by frustration with the event, it was deeper than this, somehow as I was missing him, I had all my past relationship experience come back at me and that's when I relaized that it had triggered this one issue of abandonment and belief : "you're unlovable"
It was a big revelation to me, once he wasn't there anymore, I actually had been freaking out as to whether I'll ever have someone love me for who I am, and not for what I can achieve or do for them. It was a yearning for acceptance basically, a yearning for "unconditional love". I had a lot more perspective on what I had done until now, especially realtionship wise, but it was very negative. I don't know if what I'm saying makes any sense ...

I have no objection to sharing the synastry, his chart and mine. I'm a bit reluctant to share the date of birth online though because of privacy.

I find it great violet that you'vebeen able to get such a great spiritual awakening from it. The part wee you talk about unconditional love was very beautiful and moving. I can't say much when it comes to this though.. to me it still remains a bitter experience. Part of me really hate the me back then, for being so overwhelmed by emotions. I'm not even sure that I'd want to relive it. Somehow I couldn't forgive, I've put the blame on everyone, on him for making me fall like this, on me for being naive and/or for being crazy and having misjudge everything, on fate for just pulling us together and then tearing us apart.
And even now, the only way I've been through this and manage to gather myself a bit is by blaming it all on me and forgiving myself. It was the easiest way. I might be in denial of the whle truth of the situation but well...
And even though I know it's not an easy thing to live I'm glad you I can share it with people who can relate. So far the very few I've told this thought I was insane.


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posted May 21, 2012 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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12 years?? wow i am so sorry first of all and at the same time it sort of scares me a bit. you are yet another saturn person(female) with the same expereince. You and ueharaa both have similar conclusions as well, the neptune person has a girlfriend or has moved on. I'm sorry to ask if too personal but did you actually end up confessing to the neptune person? As in were you in contact with him?...It is my deepest darkest fear that I will be left thinking about this for ever.

I confessed by email, and he never acknowledged it and he never replied. He just stopped all communications.

When we ran into each other over the years, we talked about other stuff, but this was never brought up. i always pretended that I was over him since he was married, and with children. I too had married.

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That is exactly the conclusion I've come to. As I said, after several months of crying, yearning, not understing the pull and the turn of circumstances... I decide to come to an end with it, so I ask myself "why?" "why do you feel so much pain?" it wasn't just any kind of grief over a loss or pain only caused by frustration with the event, it was deeper than this, somehow as I was missing him, I had all my past relationship experience come back at me and that's when I relaized that it had triggered this one issue of abandonment and belief : "you're unlovable"
It was a big revelation to me, once he wasn't there anymore, I actually had been freaking out as to whether I'll ever have someone love me for who I am, and not for what I can achieve or do for them. It was a yearning for acceptance basically, a yearning for "unconditional love". I had a lot more perspective on what I had done until now, especially realtionship wise, but it was very negative. I don't know if what I'm saying makes any sense ...


Yes.

I am so glad to be able to find people who can relate to this. I thought I was crazy or something...

The blog in the original post is an excellent one, but I am afraid that we can use what is said there to hold on to the relationship. From my own experience, it's best to really release this relationship and move on. The yearning to be with that person was probably the strongest I have ever experienced, and there were times when I thought I would never get over him. Thankfully, yes, it is possible to move on.

I too would love to hear from a Neptune person on this aspect, but I do suspect that they don't feel this with the intensity of the Saturn person...

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posted May 21, 2012 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, I'm sorry to hear this,.. this must have felt awful especially if back then you thought he reciprocated a bit..
(I admit this feeling of reciprocation played a huge part in making the experience so painful to me..I would be pretty crushed if I found out it was all in my head..)

I really hope a neptune person comes out and share with us just to see what it feels like for them..

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yes, you're definitely right about the fat that what is written encourage us to somehow hold on to the relationship while the best thing is to actually let go of it. And it's a huge challenge in itself because the pull is so strong and the fear of not being able to find something liek this over again can be very persistent

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Ueharra, sometimes I ask myself, was it ALL IN MY HEAD?

Perhaps it was. With Neptune, you never know, It's possible that we deluded ourselves into thinking that the Neptune person had feelings for us.

Maybe Saturn's worst Nemesis is not Jupiter but Neptune.

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ah.. I know the feeling..
Honestly I've been going ver this, over and over AND over again. Did I make it all up? Did I lack good judgement ? ... The mer thought of being crazy has ended up.. well. driving me crazy in itself.

So as usual, I try to rationalize it, I think about every little thing he did that could have led anyone to believe that here was something there.. the one thing that prevents me from concluding so is the fact that I am not someone who assumes people love her. With venus in aquarius and retrograde, I can't even begin to explain how oblivious I am to anyone signs of interest. I have had guy friends who wanted more and only realized it much later. I don't have this sort of "hum, so what does he think of me? does he like the way I look? Does he find me funny?" .. those questions never pop in my head. I have this rather cool, friendly approach to most people, which can get me in tricky situations.. BUt with him, it was just there, knowing tht somehow, somewhere, there was more to it, more than simple attraction, lust or whatever else..I don't know how to put it into words but it was just a gut feeling fro mthe moment I met him .

Maye it wasn't necesarily love, maybe it was something else I don't know.. but I sure do hope that he's felt a least something !! and part of me hopes he's gone through some pain too, just like me.. if he didn't I might try to get even in another life ^^.

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thanks for sharing it I do believe we can learn more from looking at the similarities in aspects.
What I notice in your synastry is
sun square sun
venus square saturn
venus opposite uranus
you have a double whammy sun trine moon that must have felt VERY lovely.
and most importantly the nodes ! unfortunately astro.com doesn't draw the aspect to the nodes automatically but from what I can see, your nodes are in opposite signs and his moon pluto conjunction might be conjunct your south node (which would explain a lot) besides it seems that you yourself have some planets square your nodes (moon mars conjunction ?) and his moon squaring it by conjuncting your south node trigger it. I can't tell exactly (how wide the orb is?) but it seems that you also have planet squaring his nodes (moon mars and neptune ?)

From the composite, venus mars and saturn in a t-square with sun opposite saturn and pluto... to me it definitely speaks passion, intensity BUT obstacles

About the square to the nodes I find it to be very relevant.
There's an article about this in sasstrology : http://sasstrology.com/2012/02/what-happens-when-you-meet-your-skipped-step-repaying-karmic-debts-in-romantic-relationships.html that is quite enlightening on it.

here is the synastry and composite in my case:

Shot at 2012-05-21

Shot at 2012-05-21

there's a similarity in aspect as expected:
sun square sun
venus conjunct saturn
venus opposite pluto
desc moon and mercury conjunct node
venus pluto moon square nodes
sun square saturn (your sun saturn hard aspect is in the composite)

have you tried doing a draconic chart ?

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The similarities between my synastry with that guy and Violet's synastry with her guy is that we had:

Venus opposite Uranus
North Node opposite North Node.

Venus opposite Uranus already tells you that this relationship will be subjected to unpredictable barriers and if it manages to get off the ground, it WILL NOT LAST.

The NN opposition is something I never understood in terms of its effects on a relationship, I will just assume that it's not a relationship making aspect.

I guess, if someone has Neptune conjunct Saturn in Synastry without those other deal breakers aspects, perhaps there is a chance that they can work on the relationship the way the blog in the OP says... I just think it's a cruel twist of fate to have this aspect along with those pulling apart other aspects that make it nearly impossible to actually have a viable relationship

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