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Topic: Goth: Scorpio and 8th House
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Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 18, 2012 04:32 PM
The stereotypical style of someone with Scorpio or 8H placements is Goth. (Dark clothes, heavy make-up, long nails, jewelry-chains.) In your experience, do you find this stereotype to be true?
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Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 2000 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 18, 2012 04:35 PM
8th house is not a house of appearance. Only 1st, 4th, 7th and 10th can give you some physical and personality traits. So no. Scorpio is in his own house here. The energy is not "damaged".IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Knowflake Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted May 18, 2012 04:37 PM
I actually haven't known a goth Scorpio. A few Pisces ones, but never a Scorp. I have an 8th house moon. I'm not goth, but I do like wearing black--just not the style that goths wear. I like the more chic, polished look; I don't like anything overly outlandish or outrageous. I like a bit of retro inspiration in my look: I like classic things that never go out of style. I would say that I have Scorpio-flavored tastes in other things, though, definitely: I like film noir, suspense, mysteries, thrillers, etc. (though I hate the "torture porn" genre). I like spooky TV shows/shows that are a bit dark (with a few exceptions), like "Twin Peaks" and the original "Twilight Zone" series (the bi-annual marathons on Sci-Fi are my only 4th of July and New Year's traditions). IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 18, 2012 04:45 PM
@Rosalind then would you say the sytle is more for people with Scorpio ascendants or Pluto in the 1H? IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 18, 2012 04:46 PM
@RegardesPlatero I'm a Scorpio sun/mars/pluto 8h and that's true actually lolIP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 2000 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 18, 2012 05:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: @Rosalind then would you say the sytle is more for people with Scorpio ascendants or Pluto in the 1H?
Yes but not only. Any Planet on angles can contribute in your physical appearance. The Axis 1-7 and 4-10 are the PERSONAL enviroment houses. The houses that influence the most the native in psyshical and psychological way. Always remember this: Houses represents your enviroments. Only Planets can bring energy here. Houses alone don't have GREAT effects. They have to have a SOURCE.
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depth Knowflake Posts: 574 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted May 18, 2012 05:28 PM
My Moon's in the 8th. Pluto in Scorpio sextile Capricorn asc. Pluto square Saturn in the 1H.Not true. I find heavy make-up, jewellery & long nails repulsive. However, people say that black suits me very well. IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 18, 2012 05:41 PM
@depth I have an aspect between my Pluto-Asc as well, and i couldn't agree more. I would like say that I do have one gothic accessory that I wear all the time. I collect knuckle armor rings :] love'em IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 4934 From: The Sun Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 18, 2012 05:53 PM
I'm a Scorpio and the closest to goth that I get is probably stuff like this... ^That's my timeline cover thing on FB. IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 18, 2012 05:58 PM
@Redscorp Nice! love the patterns in the backgroundIP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Knowflake Posts: 1580 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted May 18, 2012 06:32 PM
I have my ASC ruler Jupiter in Scorpio conjunct Venus in Scorpio, which is how my Scorpio influence probably directly reaches my appearance. I have been told that I wear the color black far too much to be healthy. I digress, but oh well. I feel, like some others have said here, that I do look my best in black. I was born with lighter hair as well, but people have commented that I look amazing with black hair. I kind of resemble a Scorpio ASC in the sense, where I look good with darker hair. (I have very fair skin though, it's not on the darker side.)I don't really like traditional goth attire, but I love punk styles like fashion by Vivienne Westwood and Alexander McQueen. I usually dress in a classy but edgy way. I like looking sultry, never slutty or openly sexy. I think it's better to be able to turn heads without showing your rack off, to be honest! IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Knowflake Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted May 18, 2012 06:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by sweet-scorpion: I like looking sultry, never slutty or openly sexy. I think it's better to be able to turn heads without showing your rack off, to be honest!
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sweet-scorpion Knowflake Posts: 1580 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted May 18, 2012 06:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by RedScorp: I'm a Scorpio and the closest to goth that I get is probably stuff like this... ^That's my timeline cover thing on FB.
Love this art piece RedScorp! It's dark without being overly so. I love how it carries a morbid edge while remaining colorful. I think it's quite an awesome alternative cover for your FB timeline. IP: Logged |
depth Knowflake Posts: 574 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted May 18, 2012 06:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: [B] I have an aspect between my Pluto-Asc as well, and i couldn't agree more. I would like say that I do have one gothic accessory that I wear all the time. I collect knuckle armor rings :] love'em
That knuckle armor ring looks amazing! I could choose to wear something like that once in a while. Simply love metallic stuff. IP: Logged |
blugrey Knowflake Posts: 1005 From: Portland, OR USA Registered: Nov 2010
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posted May 18, 2012 06:41 PM
Not at all. I honestly think Goth is more a Pisces/Aquarius thing.Most Scorpios I know try to blend in, rather than stand out. It would be a 1st or 10th house thing. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4365 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 18, 2012 06:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Moonfish: [b]@Rosalind then would you say the sytle is more for people with Scorpio ascendants or Pluto in the 1H?
Yes but not only. Any Planet on angles can contribute in your physical appearance. The Axis 1-7 and 4-10 are the PERSONAL enviroment houses. The houses that influence the most the native in psyshical and psychological way. Always remember this: Houses represents your enviroments. Only Planets can bring energy here. Houses alone don't have GREAT effects. They have to have a SOURCE.[/B][/QUOTE]I agree Rosa... I think they're just havin fun IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 18, 2012 06:44 PM
@depth Same here :] there really cheap on ebay IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 18, 2012 06:48 PM
@blugrey Other the pic of the rings, I'm not goth :] and i beg to differ about Scorpios blending in. Look at bjork and whoopi goldberg, both have Scorpio Sun/Moon and both have there own original styles.------------------ Scorpio sun, Pisces moon, and Pisces rising IP: Logged |
CosmicKarma360 Knowflake Posts: 773 From: here and there Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 18, 2012 06:58 PM
The daughter of a friend of mine was quite a Goth in high school. Her rising is Scorpio, with Pluto conjunct her ASC.IP: Logged |
blugrey Knowflake Posts: 1005 From: Portland, OR USA Registered: Nov 2010
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posted May 18, 2012 07:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: @blugrey Other the pic of the rings, I'm not goth :] and i beg to differ about Scorpios blending in. Look at bjork and whoopi goldberg, both have Scorpio Sun/Moon and both have there own original styles.
Bjork Has Pluto conjunct Uranus on her MC. Uranus is square her Mercury in the 2nd (how she gets her money/her career).
She also has Neptune conjunct her ASC (yes, in Scorpio). Whoopi is an Aqua Rising as well, as well as her chart ruler Uranus squaring her Moon, Mercury and Trine her Sun. She does have Pluto square her Sun as well. I don't think Scorpio placements themselves show anything "extreme". Aspects to Pluto might cause someone to have intensity in their personality or intensify something else more than a simple Scorpio Sun or Moon.
Scorpio is about what's under the surface, not above. Goth is all about the surface. This is just my own astrological experience though. :P
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Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 18, 2012 07:05 PM
@blugrey Okay that's understandable, but at the same time if Scorpio placements are just about how we expressing ourselves internally, then why does Pisces/Aqua represent goth? again i'm a scorpio sun/mars/pluto 8h conjunction and I have a style that doesn't match with the way my family and friends dress. In fact, they often think i'm quite weird. (didn't mean the thumbs down) IP: Logged |
blugrey Knowflake Posts: 1005 From: Portland, OR USA Registered: Nov 2010
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posted May 18, 2012 07:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: @blugrey Okay that's understandable, but at the same time if Scorpio placements are just about how we expressing ourselves internally, then why does Pisces/Aqua represent goth? again i'm a scorpio sun/mars/pluto 8h conjunction and I have a style that doesn't match with the way my family and friends dress. In fact, they often think i'm quite weird. (didn't mean the thumbs down)
Aquarius/Uranus is about standing out, being different. Causing a movement,a trend. To me Pisces/Neptune is attracted to things that are offbeat and they like fashion that fits their mental state or things that are unusual. I'm not saying it's impossible or a Scorpio to ever want to stand out - the whole chart has to be taken into account. I just find (I know tons of Scorpios - I have a Scorpio DSC so they are just constantly around me!) that most of the Scorpios I know are not that intense on the surface nor do they particularly try to stand out unless it's in a career. - Rising/house placements has a lot do with this though. And no worries.
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depth Knowflake Posts: 574 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted May 18, 2012 07:47 PM
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Aquarius/Uranus is about standing out, being different. Causing a movement,a trend. To me Pisces/Neptune is attracted to things that are offbeat and they like fashion that fits their mental state or things that are unusual.
My ascendant's in Capricorn with Uranus & Neptune on it. Pluto sextile Asc. I've Aquarius intercepted in my 1st. Saturn in Aquarius in the 1st. Yes, I can kill for individuality but Gothic? Nay! I love goth rock though. However, one of my friend has ascendant in Aquarius square Pluto, Saturn's in the 1st & this fellow's a full-blown goth.
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blugrey Knowflake Posts: 1005 From: Portland, OR USA Registered: Nov 2010
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posted May 18, 2012 07:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by depth: My ascendant's in Capricorn with Uranus & Neptune on it. Pluto sextile Asc. I've Aquarius intercepted in my 1st. Saturn in Aquarius in the 1st.Yes, I can kill for individuality but Gothic? Nay! I love goth rock though. However, one of my friend has ascendant in Aquarius square Pluto, Saturn's in the 1st & this fellow's a full-blown goth.
I'm not only talking about goth here, but alternative fashions, lifestyles, groups. Goth is just a part of this!
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Lonake Moderator Posts: 9347 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 18, 2012 09:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by depth: people say that black suits me very well.
Sun in the 8th & people have said the same for me too. They like me in black and also I feel comfortable in dark red, which I receive compliments on as well. But I always disliked the 'goth' look. I'm not/never was a scenester. It's a cute thing for kids, the outrageous styles, it's fun to see what they think up, but for 30+, just, NO. You don't have to look like a Gap ad campaign, but tone it down just a bit.IP: Logged |