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Topic: Neptune--not as dsillusioning as you might think
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violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 635 From: maya Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 21, 2012 02:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by 12thhouser: Without imagination, there wouldn't be any knowledge.
@ TrueTaurus imagination is the image you create which then becomes a thought. Without imagination as the base to create, your thought process would not exsist. ------------------ Out of myself, but wanting to go beyond that wanting what I see in your eyes, not power, but to kiss the ground with the dawn breeze for company, wearing white pilgrim cloth. I have certain knowing. Now I want Sight. - Rumi IP: Logged |
TrueTaurus Knowflake Posts: 280 From: California Registered: Nov 2010
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posted May 21, 2012 08:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by violet7887: @ TrueTaurusimagination is the [b]image you create which then becomes a thought. Without imagination as the base to create, your thought process would not exsist. [/B]
I think I get the point. Although it seems obvious, I'm not sure why I was unsure. I think it's becuse I consider the application of something more important than an idea of somethihg, which is where knowledge comes in. So, the imagination and knowledge go hand in hand. Without the knowledge (justified belief?) imagination is only an idea. Without an idea, there's nothing to prove. IP: Logged |
12thhouser Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Registered: Feb 2012
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posted May 21, 2012 09:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by TrueTaurus: I think I get the point. Although it seems obvious, I'm not sure why I was unsure. I think it's becuse I consider the application of something more important than an idea of somethihg, which is where knowledge comes in. So, the imagination and knowledge go hand in hand. Without the knowledge (justified belief?) imagination is only an idea. Without an idea, there's nothing to prove.
TrueTaurus, understandable, but I see the imagination as SO much more than just an idea. To me, it's everything, it's atmospheric, it surrounds and permeates life, which is probably why what the author of the book wrote about imagination being the key to reality made so much sense to me. A personal question for you, TrueTaurus, and you don't want to answer, you don't have to. Are you Catholic by any chance? I'll tell you why I ask that after you answer "yes" or "no" (and no fudging an answer just to find out why I asked, lol). I will share why, but I'd like to know if you are or not first. Thanks.
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TrueTaurus Knowflake Posts: 280 From: California Registered: Nov 2010
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posted May 21, 2012 09:13 PM
I see. I guess then your definition of imagination and the author's definition of is more broad. I've been speaking in the general sense. No I am not. I'm Buddhist, actually. I'm not very religious. But I'm starting to see your point. Imagination is boundless and infinite. I suppose you can think of it like the will, well, depending on your religious or non-religious belefs. IP: Logged |
12thhouser Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Registered: Feb 2012
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posted May 21, 2012 09:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by TrueTaurus: I see. I guess then your definition of imagination and the author's definition of is more broad. I've been speaking in the general sense. No I am not. I'm Buddhist, actually. I'm not very religious.
Okay. The reason I asked is because I've become aware that direct application of a teaching seems to be a Catholic trait, though I'm guessing it's certainly not limited to Catholicism. I am not Catholic, but have grown up around a lot of Catholics, and two-thirds of the student body in college was Catholic. I was quite exposed to it. IP: Logged |
TrueTaurus Knowflake Posts: 280 From: California Registered: Nov 2010
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posted May 21, 2012 09:21 PM
Oh really? I've never heard of that. I think It's just being a Taurus and having Mercury placed in Taurus. Practicality. IP: Logged |
12thhouser Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Registered: Feb 2012
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posted May 21, 2012 09:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by TrueTaurus: Oh really? I've never heard of that. I think It's just being a Taurus and having Mercury placed in Taurus. Practicality.
I remember you saying yours was in the 12th house though. The rest of imagination is waiting for you to re-discover it. IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 1478 From: Firey Jupiter Registered: May 2009
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posted May 21, 2012 09:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by TrueTaurus: I can easily describe how a person is and they say it is true about them. Who knows, it might just be psychological.
I said the same thing today to my Taurus bf. I realized that at a very young age my mom always told me I was a Leo Sun and I may have unconsciously taken on the characteristics of Leo. BUT when I really got into astrology around 16 or so, I read about Pisces Moon and it made so much sense. Because I'm so sensitive and was very shy at that age. Then I finally started to understand aspects, houses, progressions - the whole sha bang a bang. And I am a avid astrologer, but I take other people's opinions seriously. I am not stubborn (supposedly typical of most Leos) and can easily change any belief I had in the past. The main insight I can shed on astrology is that manifestation of a natal chart is not black and white. So many things factor in and it really takes someone who actually holds a true grasp on astrology to have faith in it in the first place. IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 1478 From: Firey Jupiter Registered: May 2009
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posted May 21, 2012 10:02 PM
BTW this is Planet Queen, I switch my user names frequently. IP: Logged |