posted June 01, 2012 02:16 PM            

"I have found my twinflame! S/He is the love of my life! I am now complete!"

*Breaks up in a year or two*

*Dates new guy/gal*

*REPEAT*

posted June 01, 2012 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

YES! Exactly. All the people I know who have some heavy Libra going on always need to share stuff, be it with friends or strangers. But they usually feel (super) incomplete without a partner.

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Exactly. Have you ever known, through progressions and what-not, for it to suddenly switch? If me, circa Now, met me, say, circa 1998, my former self would be horrified by the fact that I've come to decide that I'm 100% capable of loving multiple people, even if differently, and that I don't believe in The One Person Above All Others. Now, at 18, I still believed in companion souls versus twinflame, and all that; but I also believed that it was Twinflame Or Bust. I've come to a different understanding since then, and become both more willing to share my life with another and just as more of a loner and independent spirit. It's peculiar.

Back then I didn't even SEE that I was relationship-hopping. That I needed to fill the void, or I HAD to be in 'love' with SOMEONE, or I didn't know what to do with myself. Then, around 25, that started to click for me, and I began a weird loner period where I'd pretty much decided it was too much work to try and relate. (That first happened to me around age 20, but it became REALLY pronounced around 25). As a result, I really just stopped trying.

The only guys who ever REALLY caught my attention ended up being creative partners and, OH, how this bugged the shiitake out of Married Mom BF and Loner Romantic BF. NOW, out here in Hollywood, people are just like, 'Oh, yeah, you're normal. That's what we do.'

I found the whole mess kind of horrifying, and just promised myself I'd never actually marry a costar. It seemed smarter, safer, (saner!) to find a man with whom I could build a real life, have a very deep trust bond, and can love unconditionally. I just also happened to have found a man who's an equally free spirit, but NEEDS to have a one special someone, even if he has other 'single-serving' partners, or those who satisfy a particular need. But I've kinda discovered I'm sort of the same way.

I tend to find myself romantically involved with my creative partners - which is probably obvious from my chart; I've just not dug it out yet. My husband says it's because of how much time, energy, and passion I put into my projects; those people directly involved, (like a partner, or lead costar) are going to be those with whom I naturally spend the most time. Since I'm pretty damned picky (see: it takes years and years and even then, I'm still always a little bit iffy - until VERY recently) as to who I'll actually tackle a serious project with, there's a trust bond there on top of it, so if sexual chemistry's in the equation ... oh, boy.

Which is why I consider myself 'monogamish'. I DON'T actively look. I'm NOT seeking someone to fill some role. But IF the circumstances just so happen to arise, it's important to me that I go with it. It's a similar 'arrangement' to what (I believe, still) David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson have. They're both married, have been married, and are very protective of their families. But they also became best friends since The X-Files, and have stayed that way throughout. Their sexual relationship is more of a bonus to the equation. A way they both enjoy being able to express ALL that chemistry they share.

But that kind of relationship is more common than you think out here, with 'the beautiful people' all milling about, and something of a sixties 'free-love' attitude going on. It's the one thing I REALLY like about this town. I don't feel as much of a freak here.

So, for some people, I feel that the best, most healthy way of relating, are combinations of the two. If you've got a lot of Libra, and part of your reason for being here is to find someone with whom you can commit, then more power to you. If you predominantly have a Uranian influence, and part of your lessons involve friendship, and learning to accept others without restrictive bonds, then you're probably going to find yourself going from one to the next until you understand that it's ALL about something within YOU.

This is why the Uranus in Libra generation has taught us SO much about how we relate, and the commitments we make to each other. I appreciate that there's no 'one way' to do anything. So long as your kids are safe, and being raised in a healthy environment, (I'm HUGE on THAT one) and you're not hurting anyone - lying, deceiving, manipulating - then good on you, mate.

We don't always fit the mold.

posted June 01, 2012 02:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Alma Sun:
A person who relationship hops + into Astrology Twinflames + really idealistic =

"I have found my twinflame! S/He is the love of my life! I am now complete!"

*Breaks up in a year or two*

*Dates new guy/gal*

*REPEAT*

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hahaha - reminds me of a couple LL posters of years past...

posted June 01, 2012 02:56 PM            

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Originally posted by cappy1277:
I agree with the Libra concept of always being in a relationship Indigo Rae...I have seen people w/prominent Libra placements always having to be with someone & more in the "committed" realm. As for bed hoppers, Sagittarius especially the moon or Venus.

The funny thing about Venus Aquarius is the fact that we do have standards...lol. my relationships w/men have always been more or less the best of best friends w/benefits but once lying, deception etc come into play, it's hard to keep the same perspective of that person and then they are no longer the person we once knew. Its like they have morphed into a whole new person....

And now back to the subject @ hand...sorry off topic

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Exactly. And that really sounds very much like my best friend - the Sag Moon / Ven-Mars Aquarius. I'm sure the reason why he DOESN'T get his emotions involved at all, and it never really becomes 'friends' so much as the 'with benefits' is because of personal experiences - that loose Moon-Saturn (in Scorpio) conjunction (Saturn ruling his chart).

Just yesterday, he realised he'd left his phone on silent after his last show the night before, and commented, (as he tends to every few years or so) if it's sad that I'm the only one he really, actually talks to. (And it's true - I'm the only one he actually calls, and on a daily basis). I told him, flat out, that he just doesn't like very many people, and doesn't want to expend the effort needed to keep up with them. I rather think of it as 'selective'. He felt that was a pretty solid assessment, but still felt it 'sad'. I asked if he was going to change it, given his categorising it as such. His response: 'Probably not.'

Not that he's happy with single-serving sex partners - or fulfilled. But it's the one way he can get that dose of human companionship he's found he needs, without building an actual relationship.

I've discovered these people are big on respect - and they can't respect you if you'll outright go to bed with them. But that might be his close Sun-Neptune conjunction (Nep in Cap) and Cap rising? I, on the other hand, Miss ASC-Venus in Virgo, am STUNNED at the mere thought of having -sexual relations- with someone who I don't RESPECT. Gah!

So he saves the real intimacy for those whom he respects (few and very between) and engages in physical intimacy with those he doesn't. I assume, because of his difficulty relating. He's an oddball. If you don't immediately get him, he's not going to bother trying to get you - unless it's into bed, if he finds you attractive, and / or is feeling lonely, would like a dose of that 'human connection' stuff.

Aye, yaye, yaye. God, that man. -shaking head-

posted June 01, 2012 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I hate that, too. While I was on Boyfriend #5, my best friends were still on either Boyfriend #2, or never having had a relationship at all - the latter, I've known since we were 11. The former has never been desperate; she just does her own thing and enjoys being independent, while keeping private the longing ultra-romantic part of herself. This was a similar pattern for Best Friend #1, until she met would-be husband online and, five or so years later, he's moved from the Netherlands, they're married, and now, planning on kiddo dos. They're a real case of 'this was SO supposed to happen', though, even as we're all still somewhat ' ... eh,' about her choice. Dual Sun-Moon conjunctions; close. Cancer/Sag, Sag/Cancer. You can't argue with that, so, eh, I don't try anymore to these days.

But, somewhat ironically, while Sag/Cancer BF is a contentedly married mom, she's jonesing for a better sex life - which has been the vicinity of Independent Loner / Secret Romantic BF - who's been (safely!) having periodic sexcapades with low commitment, but lots of possibility. She WOULD make a commitment, except that she's been torch-bearing for a very long time for her twinflame, who I'm thisclose to virtually beating upside the head, but - this is neither here nor there, and another story for another time.

I'm still a firm believer in 'it'll happen when it's meant to' and 'when you're not looking for it, and you're doing your own thing, THAT's when it's going to come around' type adages. But likely because it's been true to me in my own life.

I wish I HAD NOT gotten involved with who turned out to be the sort of nightmarish abusive-on-every-level-you-can-imagine because of that college-fiance relationship breaking up. I get that I had a lesson tol earn, but THAT was a HARD lesson. I feel like I was mostly alone with another person for 4 years, and living in a warzone, where one false move could get my head blown off.

I really - REALLY - should have stayed single. I'm not sure how my life would've been different if I had. Every now and again, I have this 'Sliding Doors' moment, but I can never really know for sure, you know? I likely would have still met my husband, as the one whom we both know is the one I met during that particular period in time. I might've just skipped the BS and gone right to dating him YEARS ago. But then would we have moved out here to LA? Better still, if I hadn't gone through everything I did, lost the things I had, been in the state I was, would I have ever met my twinflame?

In that case, I have to agree that all of it was worth it. But still - you have to wonder. Just how much you MIGHT have been able to avoid, if you'd just sucked it up and kept your own counsel for awhile longer.

In that sense, I admire my occasional sexcapading / largely loner BF. She's focussed on building herself. Being the kind of person she wants to be, and having the life she wants, without a man having to be in the equation at all. That's what I tell people we should ALL be capable of doing before we settle down and build a life with another person.

I think it's THE lesson of those of us with Libra strong. Especially if there's some SNode / 12H involvement. We must learn independence first. In my experience, having that of which you can be proud, talents which are yours alone, abilities and skills, things which CAN'T be taken from you, is the best safeguard against some of the more terrible psychological maladies. We develop these things on our own - usually. And, if we don't, THAT's when we THEN need the guidance and support of someone else who can become that safe base for us and allow us to continue the process.

I think those relationships, with companion souls, those particular soul contracts will be absolutely visible in the chart and synastries. Lots of Saturn. Of course, until the Saturn person is willing to understand and pick up the burden, it's going to be a VERY rough relationship. Many of us will probably decide it's not even worth it, and further a pattern of non-committal, never-getting-too-involved, or just intense, powerful relationship which ends in tears, going onto the next before they've even had a chance to dry.

You'll expect to see lunar stuff, 7H stuff, Uranian signatures, Saturn afflictions, prominence of Juno, and, given the karmic flavour, some SNode, 12H/12HR stuff. Signs I see predominating - axes, namely - are Libra/Aries, (independence / commitment), Gemini/Sagittarius, (networking / noncommittal), Leo/Aquarius (romance / friendship), and Taurus/Scorpio (self-indulgence / obsessive-sexuality).

Just to name VERY few off the top of my head.

-A

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posted June 01, 2012 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by ghanima81:
Moon and NN in 5th house/Leo. Pluto in Libra 7th. I'd say this is true for me.

I have gone for some stretches without a "real" partner, but it was VERY hard.

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Yeah, I have issues with that, too, also being a Leo NNode, but in the 12H. It seems that my GOAL, interpersonally-speaking, is to learn how to be more romantic. (The Libra Sun kinda backs this up; and with a close conjunction to Pluto, and Juno also in Libra ... I'm supposed to learn how to bond closely.)

It's tough for me, though. I try not to 'live' in the Aquarius SNode, but it's just easier for me to do the more detached, accepting everyone thing. Though, I DID marry. Yay, me. And am satisfying a serious karmic debt to my stepdaughter. Again, yay, me?

The Taurus friend of whom I spoke has her Moon closely on my NNode. Sometimes, I wonder if we're both supposed to take this journey together. It's tightly on my mother's ASC, too. She's extremely informative when it comes to the, 'this is how it was for me' stories. She married at 24, had me at 31, did the polyamourous thing (but with one other partner) until I was about 13, (I had NO idea, of course; how's that for Neptune in the 4H, eh?) and then has been 100% committed to my father and happily married since.

Go figure.

posted June 01, 2012 07:14 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Lol i dont get people with that mindset "well i havent found my soulmate yet,so im gonna f**k everybody i possibly can in the mean time. Lol i dont think it works that way.

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Ha! I know, right? I don't -understand- the casual sex mindset, but I try and respect everybody (within reason; I mean, mass-murdering f*ckheads, no; those who like to shag rather indiscriminately, sure). I just don't get the detached sex thing. Augh. I'll admit, I've been VERY selective when it comes to my partners, and it's always been within the environment of a committed relationship, so, some of this is still uncharted water to me. While I don't believe there has to be commitment, these days, I DO believe there HAS to be respect, trust, honesty, and an emotional / intellectual bond.

How you can have a sexual experience with another person lacking those things ... is just beyond me. 'Mindless', to me, seems spontaneous, without analysis, and just natural and losing yourself in the other person and the moment. It's assumed there's SOME kind of intellectual / mental bond there prior to the getting physical.

posted June 01, 2012 07:36 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
I have Venus square Uranus and I boy jump.

eta: For clarification, what I mean is I am quick to get over a guy and start dating someone new once a relationship ends.

I also have Venus square Saturn so I do try to make failing relationships work but once he dumps me, on to the next one.

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posted June 01, 2012 09:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

Are your relationships usually long-term then? I find it so interesting that some people feel the need to constantly be in a relationship.

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No, the majority of my relationships have been short term. My only long-term relationships have been with a Gemini (my ex) and a Sag (my current steady). I dated majority incompatible sun signs and the relationships never went beyond four months. I also briefly dated an Aqua/Cappy cusp and that lasted three.

posted June 01, 2012 09:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
aquaguy91, you don't understand having emotionally detached sex? But you're an Aqua! .

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posted June 19, 2012 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
I have Venus square Uranus and I boy jump.

eta: For clarification, what I mean is I am quick to get over a guy and start dating someone new once a relationship ends.

I also have Venus square Saturn so I do try to make failing relationships work but once he dumps me, on to the next one.

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You are so lucky!
I have venus squr. Uranus too . My relationship start quick ,end also quick but when it last it does last till the end to nowhere.

I have venus sext. pluto , venus trine neptune --> So , I tend to hold back "love" to myself whether it good or bad if it has spell on me , I " ll grab it tight ....;(

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

YES! Exactly. All the people I know who have some heavy Libra going on always need to share stuff, be it with friends or strangers. But they usually feel (super) incomplete without a partner.

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Yes, so true as I am ... I'm crave love , sounds desperate but it's true .... hahaha

posted June 19, 2012 02:28 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
I have Venus square Uranus and I boy jump.

eta: For clarification, what I mean is I am quick to get over a guy and start dating someone new once a relationship ends.

I also have Venus square Saturn so I do try to make failing relationships work but once he dumps me, on to the next one.

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You are so lucky!
I have venus squr. Uranus too . My relationship start quick ,end also quick but when it last it does last till the end to nowhere.

I have venus sext. pluto , venus trine neptune --> So , I tend to hold back "love" to myself whether it good or bad if it has spell on me , I " ll grab it tight ....;(

posted June 19, 2012 04:34 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[Haha yea, im not a manho , sorry ladies XD

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posted June 20, 2012 08:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Choc:
This is the chart of an ex best friend of mine who would boy-jump LIKE CRAZY. She can NEVER ever be along, no matter what she says. Even during her relationships, there would be someone on the side in case things weren't going her way.

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I don't see the normal indicater telling that she is a boy jump, except Her 5th Ruler(moon) trine Uranus which is not the bad aspect at all.
Is the Love planet (venus,pluto) in 8th involve too?
Or is the Pisces rising too?