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heartstrings
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posted June 06, 2012 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heartstrings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if you are best friends with a scorpio guy, is it possible that he feels something for you somehow? or you're officially in his 'friend zone'?

is there even a difference between a friend and a best friend to you?

i was just wondering...because he was the first to mention it, (anyway, this was ages ago) and being 'best friends' with a girl and you're a guy, surely there's gotta be something there..right? or no?

also, i want to know what to do to get out if the 'friend zone' with my scorpio friend..or should I say, 'best friend zone'...at first i thought it was great that he knows he can trust me and see me that way, but then i realized i might not have a chance on him anymore, because he only sees be as his 'best friend'

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Doux Rêve
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posted June 06, 2012 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe you should tell him about your feelings.
Scorpios usually like emotional honesty and can handle such situations pretty well (if they're mature enough).

If you're in the "friend zone", I doubt there is a way to get out if it though.

Good luck.

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posted June 06, 2012 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heartstrings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he said it to me at the time while he was being so open, basically showing his vulnerable side, i had a feeling he liked me at that time but as I said, that was aages ago..i think i was just too slow or too late to make up my mind..he tells me everything..even about this new girl he likes, everytime he tells me about her, i die inside and she doesn't even like her!! i just really want to know if i just wait for him to realize that it's me who truly understands him he might change his mind...i'm afraid that telling him that i like now him will ruin our friendship..

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posted June 06, 2012 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gem-Gurl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know i suck, cuz i dont have any advice or experience but you clearly need a hug!!!


Hope all goes well...

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posted June 06, 2012 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heartstrings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i was wondering if that was his way of telling me that he likes me, and that i was too late to figure that out...now he found someone else and i'm left sitting here in his friend zone..

but guys, would you even do the same thing? would you use this scenario to hint her your true feelings? what's up with all the secret sharing? and makin me feel special throughout our friendship? he doesn't have that many girl friends and i'm the closest girl friend he has...but can a girl be just your 'best friend' without feeling anything for her?

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posted June 06, 2012 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heartstrings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
naaaw thanks Gem-Gurl I'm actually finding it hard right now especially with all these bulk of exams on my way, trying to concentrate for it, but then there's him..meh -____- lol

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Originally posted by Gem-Gurl:
I know i suck, cuz i dont have any advice or experience but you clearly need a hug!!!


Hope all goes well...


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posted June 06, 2012 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melodie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I once had a romantic interest in someone, it never really goes away. I may move on to someone else, but it always remains in the back of my mind. If I see someone as a friend, it never develops into a romantic interest. The times I became "friends" with guys I've liked was with the sole intent of getting to know him and trying to woo him :P.

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posted June 06, 2012 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It depends on the guy, frankly. I'm best friends with a man, and the only real 'relationship' he has, since he does the sport sex thing. We've been honest about our attraction to each other since the beginning, so it's always been textbook complicated. Timing was always off, and he's the closed-off, private kind who responds to everything with dry humour. We'd both like to do the FWB thing, but are probably both just as silently wondering how that's possible with your best friend who knows you better than anyone. Emotions have got to be part of it, right? Even under the surface?

I say, you kinda suck it up and do the 'I used to have the biggest crush on you' thing once you've both had a little to drink, or you're just feeling more theta than beta (erm, brainwaves, that is. I'm a science nerd). If it leads to a 'me, too' and you're still so close, you can bet money that the attraction's still there; it's just been disregarded in favour of other pursuits for whatever circumstances.

Sometimes, it works. And, yes, Scorpio DOES deal mostly in emotional honesty. It's always preferred.

Best of luck to you, in any case.

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posted June 06, 2012 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Next time he asks you for advice about dealing with a girl, just say "I don't know if I can give you unbiased advice."

When he asks you what you mean, then reply," I know this may be awkward, but I have feelings for you. I understand if you don't feel the same way, but I just want to be honest with you and let you know how I really feel."

Two of the most important qualities Scorpio looks for in others is honesty and loyalty. Since he trusts you and confides in you, he clearly believes you possess both of these qualities. In my opinion, you have a better chance being in a romantic relationship with him than some girl who hasn't yet proven that she possess these two qualities.

If you do confess your feelings, and he wishes to remain friends, don't panic. You've at least planted the seed and he'll think carefully about it. Chances are he'll reconsider what you've told him in the future when he realizes that good girls are hard to come by.

I know this is very scary, but it's best to be honest with him. He will respect you for it.

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posted June 06, 2012 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thefish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only two ways to handle this

1) Make your feelings known
2) Start getting distant meaning get activities of your own and become busy.

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posted June 06, 2012 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astra:
Next time he asks you for advice about dealing with a girl, just say "I don't know if I can give you unbiased advice."

When he asks you what you mean, then reply," I know this may be awkward, but I have feelings for you. I understand if you don't feel the same way, but I just want to be honest with you and let you know how I really feel."

Two of the most important qualities Scorpio looks for in others is honesty and loyalty. Since he trusts you and confides in you, he clearly believes you possess both of these qualities. In my opinion, you have a better chance being in a romantic relationship with him than some girl who hasn't yet proven that she possess these two qualities.

If you do confess your feelings, and he wishes to remain friends, don't panic. You've at least planted the seed and he'll think carefully about it. Chances are he'll reconsider what you've told him in the future when he realizes that good girls are hard to come by.

I know this is very scary, but it's best to be honest with him. He will respect you for it.


I've changed my mind. Do that. That's brilliant. Well played, Astra. Perfect.

-A.

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posted June 06, 2012 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd say check composite personal planets for afflictions to 12th house ruler. That or neptune in any of the angular houses. If an aspect like that exists, there may be confusion about the real purpose of your coming together.
I'm a Libra and Venus dominant individual. Like Aquarius, I'm the person most likely to marry a friend-type.

IME, If Scorpio desired you, perhaps they wouldnt place the idea in your head to begin with. They're strategists and he would know, I'm sure , of this result.
Since their nature is leery, they usually discredit appraisal as flattery and don't do it. ---so if he called you his best friend, you should be honored.-- Its most likely true!

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acousticbob
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posted June 06, 2012 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for acousticbob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AS a Scorpios sun + Venus I would prefer to know someone well before entering a relationship. The Scorpio sensitivity, intensity and complexity of emotions means that its easier if you know and trust someone deeply.

It does depend on whether there is some physical/sexual attraction in there too.

Good luck.

PS if you are not sure if there is sexual/physical attraction from his side you need to show some subtle signs (non verbal) to trigger (or expose) his attraction to you. It can be the elittle things like eye contact, clothes or body language.

Just my thoughts....

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RedScorp
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posted June 06, 2012 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally, I think I'm in love with my best friend, so no...no such thing as friend zoned for me.

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Astra
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posted June 06, 2012 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I've changed my mind. Do that. That's brilliant. Well played, Astra. Perfect.

-A.


Aww...thanks!

Another tip: if your Scorpio friend complains of a stiff neck, back, etc, offer a massage. If you don't know how to give a good massage, then learn. Massaging can be quite intimate without being overly sexual, and it forms a physical bond. By giving a good massage, you are allowing your friend to associate you with the pleasure he experiences from massage. He will then realize," hey, she makes me feel good!' Similar to Taureans, Scorpios are very physical and hey, who doesn't enjoy a good massage?

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posted June 06, 2012 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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is there even a difference between a friend and a best friend to you?

It depends on how sexual you are.

There is a Scorpio in my life who is still friends with his ex but he is no longer into her because she is too much like 'the girl next door'.. she is too goodie goodie sexually - and does not want to experiment at all with him.

So if you seem non-sexual... then it's possible he sees you as a friend only.

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Massaging can be quite intimate without being overly sexual, and it forms a physical bond.

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posted June 06, 2012 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I say see what happens.

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posted June 07, 2012 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heartstrings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:

IME, If Scorpio desired you, perhaps they wouldnt place the idea in your head to begin with. They're strategists and he would know, I'm sure , of this result.
Since their nature is leery, they usually discredit appraisal as flattery and don't do it. ---so if he called you his best friend, you should be honored.-- Its most likely true!


of course, I felt honored knowing that he knows now that he could trust me. I've read a lot of astrological books saying that i's really hard to gain a scorpio's trust and that you just gotta be true and be yourself, and that's what I've been throughout our friendship. There was an attraction before he even told me I'm his best friend..I'm just not sure if that attraction between us still exist, maybe I was playing it too cool and made him think that he's got no chance with me and decided to move on! but I had to prioritize my studies!! if only love could wait

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posted June 07, 2012 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heartstrings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astra:
Next time he asks you for advice about dealing with a girl, just say "I don't know if I can give you unbiased advice."

When he asks you what you mean, then reply," I know this may be awkward, but I have feelings for you. I understand if you don't feel the same way, but I just want to be honest with you and let you know how I really feel."

Two of the most important qualities Scorpio looks for in others is honesty and loyalty. Since he trusts you and confides in you, he clearly believes you possess both of these qualities. In my opinion, you have a better chance being in a romantic relationship with him than some girl who hasn't yet proven that she possess these two qualities.

If you do confess your feelings, and he wishes to remain friends, don't panic. You've at least planted the seed and he'll think carefully about it. Chances are he'll reconsider what you've told him in the future when he realizes that good girls are hard to come by.

I know this is very scary, but it's best to be honest with him. He will respect you for it.


I guess I was stupid enough to tell him to just "go and ask her out when you know the time is right, girls don't wanna do the first move because we don't want to look desperate..." I was hoping he'll realize that the "girls" i was referring to was actually me...ugh, totally stuffed it up! i have no chance anymore

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posted June 07, 2012 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heartstrings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by acousticbob:
AS a Scorpios sun + Venus I would prefer to know someone well before entering a relationship. The Scorpio sensitivity, intensity and complexity of emotions means that its easier if you know and trust someone deeply.

It does depend on whether there is some physical/sexual attraction in there too.

Good luck.

PS if you are not sure if there is sexual/physical attraction from his side you need to show some subtle signs (non verbal) to trigger (or expose) his attraction to you. It can be the elittle things like eye contact, clothes or body language.

Just my thoughts....


that's the thing..I think we were just feeling each other out for too long and we know there was something there but we were just waay too shy to admit it, he asked me who I like before..many times..he knew it was him, I'm pretty sure cos he wouldn't repeat asking me about it if he really didn't care, right? but I thought back then that it was better for me and him to just stay where we were at that time because I thought he was gonna move interstate and that telling him what I really feel might just make things a lot worse for both of us...but his parent's changed their mind and so he didn't move interstate, I was happy and we remained best friend but I'm sad because I think, this is all that we can be

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posted June 07, 2012 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrewinthestars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Scorpio and I've noticed I can always tell the Scorpio energy in a person, whether it be Venus or the Moon or something. This energy I find uncomfortable at first, and I think I must give that kind of energy off to others. But like the grey lizard who finds the fire only gives him wings, a phoenix is hidden in the Scorpio who tries the fire. Some of my best friends had that energy, and now I don't even notice it. I think there is an algorithm to what is written about as, "gaining a Scorpios trust"

Unless I have my Mars Gemini / ASC focused, when I'm doing something I think I might come across as a closed dry person. When I can have a full conversation and you understand who I am there more of an opportunity to gain trust. Scorpio is like what Jesus said about serving cheap wine, you saved the best wine for last. Scorpio needs a digging session, you have to really put on your hard hat and grab a shovel if you're looking to win Antares, the heart of the Scorpion. Antares is the enemy of Mars remember, passion and overtness in a sexual way may work as points against you. Don't look for Mars, get a telescope and find Pluto out there.

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posted June 07, 2012 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heartstrings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thefish:
Only two ways to handle this

1) Make your feelings known
I guess I'm too late to do this now because clearly, he's starting to fall for this chic
2) Start getting distant meaning get activities of your own and become busy.
that's why I'm trying to be busy with my uni and stuff, I'm trying to meet new people out there.. that's all what I can think of right now to get him out of my mind. But everytime I try to be busy and be a little more distant from him, he'll sense it and I can see he's trying to put an effort to keep me somehow close to him..he'll try and remind me that we are best friends and that he knows he can tell everything to me without him feeling weirded out and I feel so bad after because I feel like I'm the one breaking our friendship



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posted June 07, 2012 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heartstrings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Personally, I think I'm in love with my best friend, so no...no such thing as friend zoned for me.

do scorpios just call someone of the opposite sex their 'best friend' purely because they trust them so much, or do they say it because they know there's something more? he has more guy friends than girl friends as I mentioned earlier and we've been friends for aages, he never treated me like I'm 'one of the guys' and that made me start to wonder and then things changed

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posted June 07, 2012 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by heartstrings:
of course, I felt honored knowing that he knows now that he could trust me. I've read a lot of astrological books saying that i's really hard to gain a scorpio's trust and that you just gotta be true and be yourself, and that's what I've been throughout our friendship. There was an attraction before he even told me I'm his best friend..I'm just not sure if that attraction between us still exist, maybe I was playing it too cool and made him think that he's got no chance with me and decided to move on! but I had to prioritize my studies!! if only love could wait

That last line is it. "If only love could wait."
Scorpios will wait. If they're convinced your the gal of their dreams, forever isnt a long enough jurisdiction.

If hes worthy of your time and attention, he's not departing off anywhere anytime anon.

If you're being a genuine, sincere to yourself, person---then why are you telling him to ask that girl out?

**That's not what the books say!

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posted June 07, 2012 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heartstrings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:

If you're being a genuine, sincere to yourself, person---then why are you telling him to ask that girl out?


I thought I have no chance with him anymore since he started talking about this girl and I don't even know if I still do. I thought I can just ignore my feelings and tell myself it'll go away sooner or later..cleary, the feeling is still there..I made a bad decision I don't know if I should be happy because we are actually the best of friends or sad because (i think) this is all what that we can be Well, I guess it's better than nothing? I have him in my life but I'll forever wonder what could've been..

sucks having a venus in scorpio

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