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Topic: Is there a chance for me to go back to my ex Scorpio?
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cherryblossom Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 13, 2012 11:56 AM
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hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 2461 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 13, 2012 12:00 PM
How long were you together with him? Why do you still talk to each other if you're ex's? That doesn't feel like a break-up, just drama. Kudos to you for having the capacity to handle it though.To me if a Scorpio guy wants something - he will get it. In fact, a man will move mountains if he wants a woman. I really want to preach about how love isn't possessive, but I'll step back now. IP: Logged |
cherryblossom Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 13, 2012 12:04 PM
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ail221 Knowflake Posts: 1515 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted June 13, 2012 12:20 PM
Woah that was a heavy read. Ok honestly ask yourself do you think you should be in a relationship with someone who is that jealous and possessive? I also notice when you wrote yours and his placements you wrote "my BF" not "My Ex" so obviously you still view him as your boyfriend. Personally I don't believe there is such a thing as "bad" placements i.e heavy in Scorpio. But if he doesn't trust you to not cheat on him even when your not cheating after a while it could start getting to you and fuel even more frustration and tension between the two of you. Plus the your very Cardinal and he's very fixed. Sometimes jealously is fueled by not being able to control your partner which is present both emotionally with your Moon in Libra(cardinal) and his moon in Virgo(mutable, sexually and communication wise with your Mercury, Venus & Mars in Aries (Cardinal) and his Mercury, Venus & Mars in Scorpio(Fixed). Not to say that it definitely won't work out but obviously you need distance from one another because even after you initially broke up there was no real distance. Sometimes couples need distance in order to grow individually and realize their own personal faults.IP: Logged |
cherryblossom Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 13, 2012 12:41 PM
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ail221 Knowflake Posts: 1515 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted June 13, 2012 01:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by cherryblossom: Lol.. I know.. thanks for reading it..  Well, I can’t change him definitely cause that’s just the way he is. I am a jealous person myself but I do have my limits and I just do think if you love someone you will accept that person instead of trying to change him. I did?? Lol didn’t realize I put “BF” instead of “EX” but no.. he’s my ex and that what hurts me. Yea that’s why on the first week after we broke up when he accused me, I ignored him and I just told him that no matter what I sad, you’re not gonna believe me so I would stop defending myself. Then later, he didn’t say I cheat again, but he thought I was keeping these guys in line in case something happened to us. Basically his mind’s crooked and telling him bad things about me. What’s cardinal again? I’m sorry I don’t really understand these words about astrology..  Sometimes jealously is fueled by not being able to control your partner which is present both emotionally with your Moon in Libra(cardinal) and his moon in Virgo(mutable, sexually and communication wise with your Mercury, Venus & Mars in Aries (Cardinal) and his Mercury, Venus & Mars in Scorpio(Fixed). --> what do u mean on this part? Not to say that it definitely won't work out--> why did u say it won’t work out?
Cardinal signs are the "initiators" they can be restless, active, self-motivated, ambitious, very leader type personalities. Ex Aries, Cancer, Libra, and Capricorn. Fixed signs are "latched" or "fixed" to their ways on the positive side they can be very stable and productive. Ex. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius. Communication (mercury), Romantically (Venus) and Sexually/anger (Mars, and Emotionally (Moon) their is a battle between your Cardinal side and his Fixed side. Except for his Moon is Virgo which makes him a bit more emotionally adaptable. Even if he says he doesn't think you cheated he's still implying you have back ups if your relationship doesn't work out and to me that points towards him not trusting you. As you admitted you ignored him because you became frustrated and over time lets say years that's going to build into more tension. When I said "Not to say that it definitely won't work out" I was implying who knows there are plenty of people with mix and match signs that work out relationship wise ex. there asteroid placements. BUt first I'd suggest some distance, and not the "I am going to ignore him and he's going to not realize this" rather a amicable decision to remain distance for sometime, if the love is really there distance and time shouldn't hurt it. But I personally believe everyone needs time for deep reflection and sometimes you can't realize your own faults yours within you and his within himself by playing this "emotional ping pong game" IP: Logged |
Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 897 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 13, 2012 01:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by cherryblossom: Sent! Are you a Scorpio, dreaming111? I would like to say thank you to all the people here, trying to help me. I really do appreciate it.
I'm a scorpio moon and my ascendant is scorpio. My sun sign however is gemini/ cancer. I think superficially I relate to the gemini/cancer aspect but the depth of me and my emotions is very very scorpio. lol I read somewhere that a scorpio sun is nothing near a scorpio moon. IP: Logged |
cherryblossom Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 13, 2012 02:50 PM
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cherryblossom Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 13, 2012 03:00 PM
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hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 2461 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 13, 2012 09:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by cherryblossom: And i do want to get back with him.
Why? You know what, lol, I get it. It's a Scorpio thing. I'm not even going to convince you otherwise. IP: Logged |
sexyaqua30 Knowflake Posts: 273 From: USA Registered: Mar 2012
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posted June 13, 2012 10:59 PM
I see he has some sag in his chart and so do I. This might not be true for your situation but when I'm doing something I have no business doing while in a relationship (cheating) I constantly accuse the other person out of guilt and when I see they truly weren't doing what I was doing then I feel guilty and dump them. For example; missed calls, unanswered text that he replied to the next day...those are some things that stood out to me the most. Either that or he has some serious trust issues which in my opinion is a buzzkill for anyone trying to maintain a relationship.IP: Logged |
Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 897 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 14, 2012 02:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by cherryblossom: Do you think a scorpio like my ex wants to be pursued or a woman who plays hard to get based on his chart?I think the Aries in my Mercury, Venus and Mars is a bit a problem to his Scorpio in Mercury, Venus and Mars... He has a lot of Scorpio! Do u think we are a match? I am a Pisces. I read that Scorpio and Pisces makes a great match..  I read somewhere that a scorpio sun is nothing near a scorpio moon.---> why so??
I just hope and this is not regarding astrology, but that he doesn't mess with you. Men like power and anyone even a meek guy inflates and walks a bit taller when girls run around them. The only reason why I wanted you to do something was I kinda felt as if he was hurt, and if I were in his position I would want you to do so and so. Having said that, you are a bubbly person and he's a somber person; it seems. I worry abou the fact that he might just throw water to your enthusiasm. Honestly we are tough to deal with and get hurt easily. It takes us forever to trust a person fully, even then a slight mistake might makes us doubt our own judgement. I think astrology aside, but from a very plain logical perspective. You sent him the message. He should reply within a week, so you can stop counting the hours off. In his mind, he'll be thrilled. Trust me anyone would be. Then he'll feel the power he has over you. Then he'll mellow out and hopefully reply thoughtfully. When he replies, don't reply back an hour after he sends you a message. Wait, give it a day or so. This is because, though you love him and want to change for the better for him, you want to send a clear message that you are a person that can stand on her own two feet and is not at his feet. I don't care if that's what he needs from you. YOU do not ever need to get down and beg someone in such a way. The basic idea for a scorpio is trust trust trust. That's it. Btw, I think the scorpio moon is more extreme and the scorpian characteristics stand out more than a scorpio sun,
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FireMoon Knowflake Posts: 491 From: Minnesota Registered: Mar 2012
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posted June 14, 2012 02:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by sexyaqua30: I see he has some sag in his chart and so do I. This might not be true for your situation but when I'm doing something I have no business doing while in a relationship (cheating) I constantly accuse the other person out of guilt and when I see they truly weren't doing what I was doing then I feel guilty and dump them. For example; missed calls, unanswered text that he replied to the next day...those are some things that stood out to me the most. Either that or he has some serious trust issues which in my opinion is a buzzkill for anyone trying to maintain a relationship.
I've been trying to refrain from saying this but I agree. Sometimes when people are constantly projecting suspicion it means they are trying to cover up guilt of their own... Anyway I know how invested you are in this cherryblossom and I wish you the best Please let us know how it turns out... IP: Logged |
cherryblossom Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 14, 2012 03:16 AM
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cherryblossom Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 14, 2012 03:17 AM
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cherryblossom Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 14, 2012 05:05 AM
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sexyaqua30 Knowflake Posts: 273 From: USA Registered: Mar 2012
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posted June 14, 2012 05:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by FireMoon: I've been trying to refrain from saying this but I agree. Sometimes when people are constantly projecting suspicion it means they are trying to cover up guilt of their own...Anyway I know how invested you are in this cherryblossom and I wish you the best Please let us know how it turns out...
I see he's a sag moon/rising with mars in scorpio which makes for one hell of a sex drive. It's like one end wants freedom to do and screw as you please but you also want to possess. Me I'm sag moon/cap venus. Caps are very earthy and wants love and the stablility that it brings but that sag moon wants variety and for you to leave when it's over. Which is why it's usually best I stay single because I get bored easily with conventional and just want to get laid so I say goodbye to spare feelings because my love can sometimes be just on the surface and I think I'm in love until another pretty face comes alone with great conversation of course. (Aqua sun can't start nothing without first exploring the mental) All I'm saying is be careful pouring your heart out to this guy because my instinct is telling me he has a healthy sexual appetite.
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cherryblossom Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 14, 2012 10:32 AM
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Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 897 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 14, 2012 11:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by cherryblossom: I had it in my guts telling me he was cheating as well. I confronted to him, he said he didn¡¦t. I confronted him twice, he went defensive by saying I don¡¦t trust him. I had it when he¡¦s outta town in April. I called him every dinner time, he never picked up. But he texted me instantly after I called him. Although he always called me every night at 11pm. I was not sure if it was just me being emotional, as I said I was being an emotional wreck 2 months before we broke up. We broke up in mid of May. I told him I just wanted to be sure cause my feeling was so strong and I never had this kind of strong feeling before. I had a feeling before with my ex before him that my ex was doing behind something behind my back, but it wasn¡¦t as strong as I had in April. And it turned out to be right, my ex before him was flirting online with these girls. And the feeling that i had with him in April was much much stronger, so that¡¦s why I confronted him. But after that I stopped. I just learned to let it go and move forward, as I don¡¦t have proof either. I hope he invested just how much I invested my feelings in this relationship. Somehow, now, I kinda regret sending him that email, I dunno why¡K I guess I just feel that I look desperate by throwing and expressing my emotions towards him. I feel weak. but at the same time, I want to do the best I could to win the one I love. So in the end, I have no regret. It¡¦s heaven and hell being a Pisces¡K ƒº Sometimes I wish I were not a Pisces. Too much emotions going on. I hate it.
Ugh....I hate that. I wish I knew you were suspicious of him too. Listen the best thing to do is to work on your own life. Tell him even you felt he cheated or was acting shady. WHy didn't he clal you at lunch even if it was to ease your suspicion. I would have picked up the phone and let my guy listen to me chew my food, if it made him feel better. lol. Why didn't he do that for you? Also, to be honest, lately I don't trust me as much. I think it's a good idea to be your own person and try to socialize with other people. What if he rejects you? And all you've done is wait and wait for him to respond? It will be hugely painful if you have closed off the rest of your life simply waiting for him as if he is the only thing that matters. Trust me I did that....:'( Usually a woman's intuition is very accurate. I know for a fact because when my red lights started going off, and he would tell me things to ease my suspicions, even then I knew he was lying. Guess what? Few months later that's I found out I was 100% correct. Look to be honest I realized from friends, family, news, forums...that a majority of men will try to flirt or have a fling if 1. the main woman is weak and allows it. 2 If he has never been exposed. 3. IF he has been exposed but never felt the pain of losing a good woman. Then majority just keep at it. For whatever reason, us, women, are so in love with our men we put them before ourselves. We make allowances for things they would not have if the tables were turned. We never firmly put our foot down. The moment he utters pretty words we believe it. We believe that they were being foolish and weren't really thinking things through. No. That is the biggest mistake to think a fully grown adult is not capable of making genuine thoughtful decisions. That stereotype needs to go now. Men are not dumb dumbs as they claim when they are caught. In their minds they are dumb dumbs for getting caught, not for hurting you or stabbing your faith in him in the back. Don't make allowances for **** like that. Also, for some reason this guy annoys me now. You did your part, sent the message now wait. When and if you get back together have a practical method, have serious ground rules. Pretned that your heart is gold and you are safe guarding it. Look in the end this is a person that you want to be able to trust your LIFE with, not mere lovey dovey emotions or companionship. If we wanted only lovey dovey emotions and companionship we would have bought a dog. lol Seriously be practical. Having said all this, I am learning to be more practical and street smart. I'm learning that fairytales and simple tales. Real life is raw and messy. You owe it to yourself to be happy.
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cherryblossom Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 14, 2012 01:19 PM
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sexyaqua30 Knowflake Posts: 273 From: USA Registered: Mar 2012
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posted June 14, 2012 02:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by cherryblossom: Well.. my ex has Scorp in Sun, Mercury, Mars and Venus. His Rising is Sag but the moon is Virgo. Cause u said my ex has Sag moon, his moon is Virgo.. Does it make any difference? He responded to me this afternoon. This is his response, “So I got your email. Well, I can’t really talk much about it now. Just wanted to let u know I got it. it's nice... i just guess i don't know how to react. maybe i just need to think about it a while or something. just kinda feel like it's the same things we talked about before. or that was my immediate reaction anyway.” I just said, “it’s okay take your time. I may have mentioned about it but I never mentioned every points in this way before.” I totally poured my heart out. I can’t lie. I feel really sad and down now. I’m scared.
I want to give you the biggest hug right now because I can tell you have a huge heart and that you truly love this guy. You did your part and I think it's best you let him go and if he comes back genuinely then don't accept him immediately make him work and prove it.
Sometimes will feelings and stuff are to easily handled to some...they take advantage. From reading his response he sounds nonchalant and that's not how you handle someone you're suppose to love and care about. Let him be single, let him live his life and in the meantime you live yours....guard that sweet heart of yours please for now. IP: Logged |
cherryblossom Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 14, 2012 03:12 PM
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FireMoon Knowflake Posts: 491 From: Minnesota Registered: Mar 2012
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posted June 14, 2012 03:42 PM
Cherryblossom, I’m so sorry you’re sad and I also wish I could give you a huge hug  Just know that you deserve to be happy and please stop being so hard on yourself, it takes two to have problems, and we all make mistakes. It probably doesn’t feel like it right now but the mistakes we make are sometimes just necessary in order for us to learn from them which can ultimately lead to much better things in the future. With relationships it’s not always about the person or the timing, it’s about the themes and issues that we need to address in our own lives, and once we’ve made the mistakes and gone through the pain, and realize we have to rely on the love we have for ourselves first, then we can really be open to loving someone else in the ways we’ve wanted… Sorry if that all sounds ridiculously cliché lol but I just hope you know that if things don’t go right with him, you can’t blame yourself and think that you should just take him back no matter how he treats you… You deserve better. I know what it's like to feel like "if I could only go back in time and do things differently none of this would even be happening right now", but it did happen and I do believe things happen for a reason. If you had never even met him maybe something similar would have happened with someone else, because we all attract certain kinds of people that end up bringing up things we feel insecure about or the issues we need to work on in ourselves... And I really think that if it turns out you guys aren't meant to be you'll find that the opportunities you'll have in the future after dealing with this are actually better than what you feel like you'd have to leave behind with him
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Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 897 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 14, 2012 03:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by cherryblossom: Sexyaqua¡K.I burst into tears when I read this part ¡§I think it's best you let him go.¡¨. And I am crying as I am writing this response. Im sorry.. it¡¦s not because of your response ƒº but I guess I¡¦m afraid with the words ¡§let go¡¨. I do love this guy deeply. I have this fear because I know when a scorpio/fixed sun breaks up, they won¡¦t go back. No matter how much he wants to be with her, he won't repeat for the sake of how he felt "back then", it literally nags at him forever and a day. A scorpio told me this, ¡§those we used to love get put in a snow globe, not to be touched. Just to be remembered and pulled out so we can see the beauty of what was, from time to time.¡¨ I just wish i could be an exception to this. And I am hurt carrying the guilt the fact that I was the one who broke up with him and for all the mistake I did when I was with him. I should¡¦ve known better on how to control myself and him. I let it got the best of me. I am regretting it now deeply from the depth of my soul. It hurts when someone who once loved me insanely and passionately, now shut me out completely just because the stupid shady mistakes I did. Love should have no ego towards each other and I let my ego stood up tall being confrontative when I know I cant really win trying to battle a Scorp. And I know that, if i really love him, I should let him go. If he comes back to me, then he¡¦s mine. If he doesn't, he never was, and he wasn't meant to be. I really appreciate all of u here keeping up with me, helping me through this. It means a lot. *hugs*
So my last message was a run through and had lots of typos. But I agree, he IS playing games now. And to be honest our live is short, empathy is lacking, it's childish of him. I realize he's hurt. I would have done the same. But I think your post about how your intuition was telling you that he was cheating. It bothers me. If I were speaking purely from my perspective, then yes he's hurt and is testing you out. (I have never even looked at another man while with a guy even kinda sorta. So if your guy is a jerk, and we all get duped by idiots like that, then my advice to you is not relevant. If he is a cheat, then he's a cheat. And these are traits they seem to be born with. Don't make the mistake of thinking you can win hom over change his heart.) This is my advice to you given the possibility he's cheating or torturing you for fun. 1. Make a fake profile. Yup you heard it. Make a fake profile and chat him up, eventually flirt with him. Then as he grows to trust you, ask him about love, what it means to him, who ever loved, if he felt he met his soulmate, and then about any past r/s. a. Be totally aware that he might say really hurtful things about you. It is a possibility. If he says horrid things don't stop. Keep talking to him until you start hating him. That way, you can dump him and move on easily. b. Even if he says only kind things about you, keep at talking to him. Make him trust your profile. You never know when he might take interest in your fake profile as more than a chat friend. c. Keep in contact with him in parallel. Do not EVER tell him what you did. This is for your info and eyes only. See if he does find out, he'll get upset or not take you seriously. d. Make sure you type in IM using a different sland or word. So if you currently say, Hey! then make your fake profile say, hiya. Just be different. Don't let him pick up that it's you. e. Now many will say it's childish, but it certainly helps if you are in the dark and confused about a guy. Trust me. And it's easier on your brain and heart because you can break up with him, cut him off completely. Sometimes we become weak and forget all the old things men do. But if you have the IMS archived, in your moment of weakness you can reread it. It will make you angry all over again. Totally helped me when nothing else would. I learned horrid things about my guy. I had asked him if he loved anyone before and he didn't even mention me. SO when he'd tell me that he did love me what did it all mean? ANd he's not some street hooligan; the guy that told me he loved me was poetic, seemingly thoughtful. ....I trusted him...and his word. I tested other men. Same thing. They are full of **** sometimes. This is not to prove anything to anyone but to your own wavering heart and soul. 2. I think at this point, you can wait for his reply. See what he says. See HOW he says it. IS it heartfelt? Is it blah? Is he acting cold? 3. Continue with your own life and self improvement. We are not going to live to be 500. We have such a short time on this planet, so short esp for women who want children someday to not waste time on unsuitable men. Now even if it was your faut for breaking up. You did what you could to fix it. You were genuine. You haven't cheated. So then? ... IF he used this to hurt you, push you down, make you feel worthless, then he's definitely a jerk. Anyway, I really hope it takes you less time to get on with your life in any case.
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cherryblossom Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 14, 2012 04:19 PM
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