posted June 17, 2012 01:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
Hmmm. My sister is not too far from being an Atheist, though she won't admit it. She's extremely rational (not emotional/spiritual), not a stereotypical Cancer. She believes science can explain everything. She is also strong water, no air in her chart.

The majority of Virgo women I've known are strongly spiritual and believe in God, they were all born a month or two after me. Dunno bout the men. It's been the case with a lot of Sagittarians I've met too, or they are at least agnostic.

I've only seen the atheist thing pop up in Aquarius, not so much Gemini and Libra but I know plenty of Aquas who believe in God.

I myself, am trying to find God. You could call me spiritual. But, I do not adhere to any sect...It has never matched my values, even considering my Jupiter in the 9th.
Leo sun, Sag rising. I hope this fit in with the topic. I've been really off this week. >_>

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posted June 17, 2012 01:46 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I'm Water dominant, I have an Air singleton (Sun) and some Earth too... I am Fire void.

I do believe in God. But with Chiron in the 9th, as I've discussed here, I feel disillusioned at times. Like no one 'up there' actually gives a damn about human life. It doesn't mean I don't BELIEVE in the presence of God. I just feel like God is a concept I don't KNOW exactly how I feel about. I'll just feel lonely and mistreated at times, and wonder why God even wanted me to be here on earth anyway. And why he wants other people who suffer to be here too. Sometimes I guess I just resent how much people put faith in religion to heal their problems when it's never healed any of mine.

One area I can agree with the Air and being too logical: Personally I feel my Air singleton adds more fuel to the fire. One way I struggle with God/religion is, I just... can't let my mind relax with it. Although I have a lot of water, I really can't get into the emotional aspects of church. I just feel like I have mental barriers up, like I'm not easily convinced. Isn't that ridiculous? I sound like they're trying to brain wash me, not help me... it's disturbing.

Another thing that might contribute based on studies is retrograde Saturn in the 3rd, which I have. I've read such a placement can make one doubt God and be kind of angry...

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posted June 17, 2012 02:57 PM            

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Does this mean I get to see you go head to head with my other Scorpio betrothed - in an earth-shattering Scorpionic - fight to the death?

Because that would be SO hot.

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posted June 17, 2012 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Jim:
I know this is offtopic but you have sun moon and asc same as me , thats odd :P
and i liket the way you think

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What can I say? Kindred souls think alike! (or at least, compatibly lol )

posted June 17, 2012 05:20 PM            

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Originally posted by popcorn:
I absolutley not believe in GOD. Never done. Thats not in my family or society culture.

Ive fire 1, earth 4 and air 2, water 3

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posted June 17, 2012 05:59 PM            

To quote gorgio tsoukalos

There is no such thing as gods there are only misinterpreted flesh and blood extra-terrestrials

They founded different religions and were mistaken for being divine.

posted June 17, 2012 06:27 PM            

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Originally posted by MillyX:
Most of my planets in my chart are fire [sagittarius]. I believe in God or greater supernatural being but not in religion. I just don't like how religion uses fear & forces their ideas to me [I've been to church every sunday for all of my life & I still go because my mom forces me]. I'm pretty open minded about spirituality & people should believe what they want to believe.

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posted June 17, 2012 07:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I needed a lot of proof. I studied Bible Prophecy for 3 years before I accepted the Bible as God's book.

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posted June 17, 2012 08:12 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
im mostly air and earth and i believe in God. in my mind it is rational to believe in God. the big bang was how the universe was allegedly created, but what caused that to happen? where did all that matter come from?theres alot of holes in that theory.

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Aqua - You couldn't have said it better.. this is exactly my opinion, always has been, and in reply to Spools rebuttal to you...

"The big bang was caused because stars eventually run out of elements(ie. He,H) to keep them going.

Once stars run out of fuel they compact, become a supernova and explode."

Yes but Where did the stars or ANYTHING ( even elements ) come from....even as a spiritual person not necessarily "religious" I know that God can only make something out of nothing.

I feel that too many inexplicable things occur that outweigh the "lack" of evidence of a higher power.... That in itself should actually prove to make perfect sense that it could be no other way.

I'd also like to point out that spirituality is definitely a part of astrology as you all know and is discussed a good amount... if you believe it you should believe in all of it. from what I know astrology is how math and science originally came to be. I honestly believe that if anything, we can all agree it is misunderstood and highly under appreciated when it is almost connected to everything... Sometimes it baffles me that with how accurate it is, it isn't a more widely and exponentially coveted practice...

posted June 17, 2012 08:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Lexyr14:

Aqua - You couldn't have said it better.. this is exactly my opinion, always has been, and in reply to Spools rebuttal to you...

"The big bang was caused because stars eventually run out of elements(ie. He,H) to keep them going.

Once stars run out of fuel they compact, become a supernova and explode."

Yes but Where did the stars or ANYTHING ( even elements ) come from....even as a spiritual person not necessarily "religious" I know that God can only make something out of nothing.

I feel that too many inexplicable things occur that outweigh the "lack" of evidence of a higher power.... That in itself should actually prove to make perfect sense that it could be no other way.

I'd also like to point out that spirituality is definitely a part of astrology as you all know and is discussed a good amount... if you believe it you should believe in all of it. from what I know astrology is how math and science originally came to be. I honestly believe that if anything, we can all agree it is misunderstood and highly under appreciated when it is almost connected to everything... Sometimes it baffles me that with how accurate it is, it isn't a more widely and exponentially coveted practice...

Mazel Tov! (coincidentally means May your stars be lucky) and yes I believe in Jesus

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posted June 17, 2012 10:01 PM            

I’m very interested in Eastern religions and re-incarnation as well as astrology obviously lol, but would never try to force my beliefs or interests on other people, and don’t like when guilt and fear and entitlement in the name of religion are used to control people.

As for personal planets I have 3 fire, 2 earth, 1 air.

posted June 18, 2012 12:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Lexyr14:
I wish I knew Hebrew so I could read the "untainted" version in the rightful context of it's ancient language, and see how close it really is to the bible

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A Jewish friend of mine told me the Jewish version of the OT differs from the Christian one (though many Christians like to say otherwise).

But if you're curious about the Christian Bible then Strong's Concordance gives the original language used for the KJV Bible (including the Hebrew). Obviously, being KJV, it's not only the Christian version but also doesn't include all the original Biblical books (and I'm only counting those approved by the Council of Nicea, of course). Your local library may very well have a copy of it (ask the reference librarian if you can't find it).

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I believe in Jesus

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posted June 18, 2012 12:49 AM            

The stars were brought together by elements fusing together.

Denser material moves towards the center.

The early Helium and Hydrogen in our universe fused all the way to Iron56, until the big bang created heavier elements.

But, we don't know were the first Helium and Hydrogen came from.

Unless we can explain it, god may have had a hand in creating it.

You can't create Helium in a lab, but you can get Helium by separating it from other elements.

Personally, I think god planted the first "seed" for everything to happen and knew from there what whould happened.

I don't know if anyone is gardening, but its similar to planting a tree.

Once you plant it in the right conditions, everything takes off from there.

You can explain the scientific and photosynthesis process and say see science is responsible for the growth of my tree, but you are indirectly responsible for planting it and starting the entire process.

The creation of the top elements in the universe is the only thing we can say god may have influenced, but after that can have a scientific explanation.

Science and Religion rarely go together.

If we didn't have god and religion, sociological we would have created it because society needs some form of sociological structure.

Its mans search for meaning why we were created and we need some form of structure and guidance on how to live the proper life.

Scientifically we know, the earth formed its own atmosphere, water developed from the volcanoes and atmosphere.

Early life developed in the ocean as simply one cell-living organisms, to were we are today.

posted June 18, 2012 03:48 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Popcorn, I forgot. Where are you from again (if you feel comfortable saying; if not, I understand)? I thought Sweden, but I wasn't sure if I had mixed you up with someone else or not. I thought that you'd mentioned it before, but if you did, I forgot.

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No problem. Im from Sweden

posted June 18, 2012 04:29 AM            

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Originally posted by popcorn:
No problem. Im from Sweden

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posted June 18, 2012 05:35 PM            

Chondrite meteorites contain unformed elements and early remains of what the solar system was.

If this was the 1500's I would have been put to death trying to explain that the earth is a sphere shape.

I'm not denying the existence of god, just trying to point out that somethings explained by religion aren't always correct.

For example in ancient religions earthquakes, landslides and disasters were thought to have been created by angry gods.

The truth of the matter is its earth process that are the cause, of course religion wouldn't accept that fact.

With time science will have an explanation for the early elements, were not there yet.