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ueharaa
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posted July 05, 2012 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would be the effect of a conjunction in the tropical synastry, being conjunct, a conjunction in the draconic synastry

From my understanding the draconic chart shows the soul contract between two people, it's where we've been and where we're going. But what happens when a connection in the draconic chart touches a connection in the tropical chart? To which extent and in which way would such a double aspect between the two charts be meaningful?

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posted July 09, 2012 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 10, 2012 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very significant.

If there are meetingpoints (conjunctions) between the tropical and Draconic, it is like a portal is opened, allowing a flow of past life or soul-based energies (Draconic) to impact the present life.

The tropical is where the manifestation of anything takes place (sort of the physical dimension).
The Draconic is the emotional or soul-plane.

It depends a little on how you view the Draconics.

Some say it is about past lives, some about spiritual connections, some emphasize the soulbased "contracts".

In a way it probably is all of these.

Let`s say we focus on past lives, then the Draconic would show how past life experiences are still influencing the present life.

Do you have an example?

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posted July 10, 2012 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The Draconic chart is calculated with the NODAL axis, so that means the Draco chart itself has the same symbolism as the Nodes.
It relates to Karma and past life connections (through the SN), but also represents connections, which are important for your present lifepath (NN).

Since the nodal chart is a LUNAR based chart you can see the emotional or Soul-connections here.
Those connections that get under the surface of a more obvious attraction.

Diandra posted a good thread on this, too.


I am using the keywords "karma / past life" and "soul level" to approach these kind of charts.

If you start interpreting Draco charts, concentrate on conjunctions and oppositions.

Draco Venus conjunct NN seems to be a very important aspects, especially since the Draco chart itself has NODAL flavour! There seems to be an interlink between two lifepaths, and the link seems to be through Venus, either in a romantic way or maybe as a creative collaboration.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/018318.html


EDIT:

I once thought about a system to interprete Draco aspects. Maybe that helps a bit.


"1. List all the Draco - Draco aspects, which would reflect the past life experiences.

2. Take those Draco-Draco aspects and see, if they trigger any tropical planets or asteroids by conjunction or opposition. Those are the "bridges" from past to present, and you can see how the present is influenced by the past.

3. See, what tropical -t ropical aspects are existent.

So you can see what is underneath the obvious tropical synastry.

Of course you will probably not find all THAT many aspects, where there is a connection on all three levels, but some may be there.

I take Paul and me as an example.

1. Draco - Draco
His Draco Venus on 18° Sagittarius is exactly opposite my Draco Lilith on 18° Gemini.

2. My Draco Lilith is conjunct my tropical Karma on 16° Gemini, which means that his Draco Venus is also opposite my tropical Karma.

3. He doesn`t have any planets or asteroids in the tropical on these degrees in Gemini or Sagittarius.
So there is no tropical - tropical aspect, that`s being triggered.

This is probably an example for some kind of a one sided aspect.

The D-Venus opposite D-Lilith would indicate some very strong attraction but also some issues with power, femininity, equality and truthfulness in our past.
Maybe a fatal attraction in a past life.

However this ONLY connects to my Karma, so I seem to be very aware of the existence of this aspect, while he is not (none of his tropical planets are triggered). And yet, his love (Draco Venus) is part of my Karma (my tropical karma); of course my encounter with Lilith is also part of my Karma, and I probably have to adress my feelings towards feminity, something that might have been triggered through my memory of a past life love with him.
But this time around I am alone in this. It doesn`t touch his conscious life; of course it`s till imprinted in his subconsciousness, though.


Or another example:

1. His Draco Psyche conjunct my Draco Sun.

2. His Draco Psyche is conjunct his own tropical Sun. My Draco Sun is conjunct my own tropical Chiron.
Of course this means that His Draco Psyche is (widely) conjunct my tropical Chiron, and his tropical Sun is conjunct my Draco Sun.

3. The tropical aspect that exists is:
His Sun conjunct my Chiron

So underneath our apparent Sun-Chiron-conjunction there`s also still a Psyche-Sun-conjunctionw orking (which is also an Osiris-Sun-conjunction, for his Psyche is conjunct his Osiris).


Possible interpretation:

1. His Draco Psyche and Draco Osiris conjunct my Draco Sun:
In a past life he was a true soulmate to me (Osiris as the sign of the best soulmate in your incarnation), who was very sensitive to me and very much in tune with me.
Of course some of this "telepathy" still lingers on in the subconsciousness.

2. However, now we can have a look what of this past experience is being carried into the present.

The Draco Osiris and Draco Psyche are conjunct his tropical Sun - so I think, this experience has formed his personality very much.

In my case it`s Draco Sun conjunct my Chiron. For some reason the personality I had in the past life has caused some deep wound in me and filled me with insecurity. Maybe the memory of that life is the wound?

His Draco Psyche conjunct my tropical Chiron is a very fragile vulnerable placement, as I sense it.
Somehow his past sensitivity towards me led to my present wound.

On the other hand my Draco Sun is conjunct his tropical Sun. SEems like we share some common traits, or let`s say something of my past personality is very similiar to his present personality, which could easily lead to a strong, too strong?, identification with each other (we have quite a lot of these same planets-connection).

3. This mixing of past and present leads to the Sun-Chiron-conjunction.
He, his creative expression and personality has become the walking image (Sun) of my wound, at least as I see it.
It`s a difficult aspect, especially since all of this is squared by my SAturn. Seems I feel a lot of karmic pain,w hich of course only leads to my spiritual growth and is for the best of my personal development.

But underneath all of this "growth-pain" there is a very delicate, sensitive, telephatic connection.
Maybe it was too good and somehow this experience of being understood so completely as only a Psyche can do led to the development of too high expectations in this life,w hich cannot be fulfilled.
And the realization and acceptance of that "un-fulfillment" maybe is the true root of my wound and of course also of my healing.

I dunno, that was my idea of an interpretation. It sounds right to me. "


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ueharaa
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posted July 10, 2012 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you a lot for this wealth of information!

The example you gave was especially insightful and helpful in understanding the link between draconic and tropical charts!

I'm going to be read the two threads you gave links to.

The example I have involves the asc/desc axis, the nodes and the vertex:
in tropical synastry: desc (24° cap)/ eros (20°cap)/mercury (25°cap)/moon (26°cap) conjunct NN (24° cap)/ juno (24°cap)
in draconic synastry: vertex (24°cap)/ mars (21° cap) conjunct pluto (25°cap)/ moon (around 25° cap but I don't know the exact t.o.b)
and anti vertex (24°can) conjunct Venus (23°can)
I had been wondering for quite sometime how significant this could be and what it could imply considering the overall meaning of draconic charts and their relationship with the nodes. I'm not really sure how significant the draconic vertex could be though.

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