posted August 06, 2012 06:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Just to clarify:

I don´t take any interpretation of someone else as a personal attack.
I was just giving my opinion, cause people read here, who want to learn astrology and might get the impression that there are easy shortcuts to synastry.
There are not, so I considered my reply to this just as giving a different opinion and observation on this.

You are right. It it totally silly to emphasize how many years someone did astrology and use it as a proof for one`s own "legitimation".
I am glad you picked up on that.

Like Rosalind I do not really care about someone disagreeing with me or not seeing things the way I do.
What I care about are the people who are reading here to get some idea how to interprete a chart, natal or synastry.

Ultimatively everyone should do their own chartinterpretation and see for themselves what works consistently and what not.

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I want to point out though, that Rosalind is one of the very few participants on this thread here, who even did a detailed interpretation, which is what it this forum is about after all.

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Glad you agree.

Immaturish behavior is so unattractive. Gosh, you'd expect all of us with a shared interest to get along, and all of us are adults after all. I mean at the end of the day interpretations are based on personal experience and understanding. Two people never see a picture exactly alike. I think we have to remember that.

Anyway, Ceriwiden, I wasn't aiming that post at anyone particular just in general to all of the people who want to share this space. I don't remember who wrote what and where I rolled my eyes. haha. I just don't like people ganging up on one person like that, especially if it doesn't seem justified.

posted August 06, 2012 06:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:

Anyway, back to the topic. lol...I think...

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how boring!

But seriously what would you guys expect astrologically to explain cheating?

posted August 06, 2012 07:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
I honestly don't see how people get so worked up over Rosalind's interpretation. Jeez, it's her right to post it. Why are all of you taking it as a personal attack?

Also, it's not fair to be talking down to someone and being so sarcastic about it. I'm not sure I would like that myself had I been in her position. I notice that a lot on here. If someone, states something different people go on a rabid attack of that one person. Why gang up on anyone like that?

Seriously, you don't like what she says, move on to the next post. Learn to ignore things or learn from them. Don't talk down to someone like that. All this competition about who read how many charts. People get real; it's not a competition. There are no medals here. We are all here because astrology interests us. Grief.

Just take a deep breath, and let's all act like adults now.

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Are you talking to me? Sorry,when I don't see quote,I just skim through posts.
Anyway,let's see

"Jeez, it's her right to post it. Why are all of you taking it as a personal attack?"

Who is denying Rosalind... anything?
Personal attack?! For the love of everything,each time somebody talks to her and doesn't agree,she dismissedls them,utterly victimized. There are people who just may be interested in her ideas - is elaboration so wrong? If I don't get it ,be a pal,explain your position - and by this I don't mean explain yourself but your theory. Do not act as a second astrological coming. And,for the record,"I have studied hundreds and hundred of charts,Full stop" is not an argumentation. We are all sapiens around here,is it odd to question some ideas?

"Also, it's not fair to be talking down to someone and being so sarcastic about it."

Sarcasm is bad,playing along is nice. Gotcha.

"Why gang up on anyone like that?"

Who is ganging up? Lotis White was polite,amowls too,they expressed their opinion,and if they are somewhat similar that doesn't mean they are ganging up on her. As for me,if you consider me as a crowd,I have to say we all have Aries Mars,and our nature favours battlefield and one on one moments. Thank god,I am not taking this personally,or else I'd be soo offended right now. Ganging up... #passiveaggression

"Seriously, you don't like what she says, move on to the next post"

You suggest not to take the subject personally,yet you claim the problem to be of personal nature by saying *you don't like*
Excellent. Let's make it philosophical,astrological,experimental,whatever pleases you. Have you seen anything of the sort? No. Can it be like this ? No. She came,she wrote,and that's it. This is forum. Community where people discuss.

"Don't talk down to someone like that."

Like she does? Absolutely not,will not do.

"All this competition about who read how many charts. People get real; it's not a competition. There are no medals here."

A p!ssing contest. Harsh world,numbers matter You are right,no medals. However,charts = experiences + playground for testing theories; But,"mine is bigger than yours".. ---->

"and let's all act like adults now"

Hurrah!!! Just,I like playing so much... at least kids' sandboxes are clean.

posted August 06, 2012 07:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
What I care about are the people who are reading here to get some idea how to interprete a chart, natal or synastry.

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hell yeah!!! Someone,somewhere is reading this.

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Ultimatively everyone should do their own chart interpretation and see for themselves what works consistently and what not.

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posted August 06, 2012 07:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

how boring!

But seriously what would you guys expect astrologically to explain cheating?

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Conflicting forces,natally - Sun vs Moon. Before you grow up to tackle Jupiter ideas,luminaries are your right and wrong scales. Put some Nep there to have you always questioned -does this match the way I imagined it- Some Uranus to have you wondering what's on the other side.

posted August 06, 2012 07:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Fine, Lotis. Whatever you say is fine. i don't care. That was my interpretation. I wasnt expecting to agree with me anyway.

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No worries. Please don't take it personal, it wasn't meant as an attack. I just had a difference of opinion. Generally, I just don't like black and white statements when it comes to aspects.

posted August 06, 2012 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:

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I would have to say that her neptune in the 7th gives her a lot of illusions. Maybe as realities of the relationship set in she gets bored or uninspired.

Also, she might enter a relationship with illusions.

The saturn in 7th house shows she feel restricted in relationships and might need to be a free agent. Or that could be taken as she needs a serious, somber partner that is much more mature to ground her. Also, this would make her very business minded and shrewd. She will probably associate with others if it propels her forward in someway. Maybe that's what she hoped here.

Pluto in the 5th shows she has an extremely sexual nature. Her lith is there too so it's going to bring out her bad side.

With chiron in her 12th, I don't think she gets how to lead a happy, productive life. I suppose she keeps missing the morale of the story. Rob is the same way. I guess this might explain their vacant expressions.

posted August 06, 2012 08:46 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I see you edited your previous post #Black&White

If with afflicted Libran energy,yeah,there is room for that.

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Um that's because I wanted to quote the chart after I began the post. Dude, I honestly don't need to explain every step I take to you.

Listen you need to stop acting vindictive, stalerish and trying to fault find with everyone. It's quite unappealing.

I didn't make that post out against anyone. I was generalizing about being polite to people etc. I even ignored your silly *** for tat rant, because I wanted to end the nonsense.

If you want to someone to say you won so be it. You won. Now can we move on from irrelevance and back to the topic?

Dude, seriously just chill out, ok?

posted August 06, 2012 09:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Um that's because I wanted to quote the chart after I began the post. Dude, I honestly don't need to explain every step I take to you.

Listen you need to stop acting vindictive, stalerish and trying to fault find with everyone. It's quite unappealing.

I didn't make that post out against anyone. I was generalizing about being polite to people etc. I even ignored your silly *** for tat rant, because I wanted to end the nonsense.

If you want to someone to say you won so be it. You won. Now can we move on from irrelevance and back to the topic?

Dude, seriously just chill out, ok?

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posted August 06, 2012 11:17 PM            

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Originally posted by L0veLess:
hey dreaming111, erase my quote please from page 2 on here

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Yeah, sure but then my reply is to nothing?
I have no problem with it; I'd just like to know why.

posted August 07, 2012 12:23 AM            

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Originally posted by L0veLess:
@Dreaming111

ah thankyu! I greatly appreciate this.
its a personal issue i have with it.
i didn't take offense to what yu said; yur opinion is respected.

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posted August 07, 2012 01:51 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:

Are you talking to me? Sorry,when I don't see quote,I just skim through posts.
Anyway,let's see

"Jeez, it's her right to post it. Why are all of you taking it as a personal attack?"

Who is denying Rosalind... anything?
Personal attack?! For the love of everything,each time somebody talks to her and doesn't agree,she dismissedls them,utterly victimized. There are people who just may be interested in her ideas - is elaboration so wrong? If I don't get it ,be a pal,explain your position - and by this I don't mean explain yourself but your theory. Do not act as a second astrological coming. And,for the record,"I have studied hundreds and hundred of charts,Full stop" is not an argumentation. We are all sapiens around here,is it odd to question some ideas?

"Also, it's not fair to be talking down to someone and being so sarcastic about it."

Sarcasm is bad,playing along is nice. Gotcha.

"Why gang up on anyone like that?"

Who is ganging up? Lotis White was polite,amowls too,they expressed their opinion,and if they are somewhat similar that doesn't mean they are ganging up on her. As for me,if you consider me as a crowd,I have to say we all have Aries Mars,and our nature favours battlefield and one on one moments. Thank god,I am not taking this personally,or else I'd be soo offended right now. Ganging up... #passiveaggression

"Seriously, you don't like what she says, move on to the next post"

You suggest not to take the subject personally,yet you claim the problem to be of personal nature by saying *you don't like*
Excellent. Let's make it philosophical,astrological,experimental,whatever pleases you. Have you seen anything of the sort? No. Can it be like this ? No. She came,she wrote,and that's it. This is forum. Community where people discuss.

"Don't talk down to someone like that."

Like she does? Absolutely not,will not do.

"All this competition about who read how many charts. People get real; it's not a competition. There are no medals here."

A p!ssing contest. Harsh world,numbers matter You are right,no medals. However,charts = experiences + playground for testing theories; But,"mine is bigger than yours".. ---->

"and let's all act like adults now"

Hurrah!!! Just,I like playing so much... at least kids' sandboxes are clean.

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posted August 07, 2012 04:46 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:

Conflicting forces,natally - Sun vs Moon. Before you grow up to tackle Jupiter ideas,luminaries are your right and wrong scales. Put some Nep there to have you always questioned -does this match the way I imagined it- Some Uranus to have you wondering what's on the other side.

Lack of confidence. Lack of self-respect. (I am having in mind urge to cheat,like a daredevil,not really married but met soulmate kind of situation) : Aflicted Venus,too.
And then you have a triggering transit or mirroring progression.

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I very much agree with that. We HAVE to start with the natals to see the potential for cheating. if you´re not prone to cheating natally for what reason ever, you won´t do it in a relationship, no matter how little you love your partner.

Of course if you are insecure or maybe basically be okay with the concept of cheating, AND certain bumps are in the road with your partner, cheating might occur more quickly than if you were deeply happy with your partner.

posted August 07, 2012 05:00 AM            

Just a few days I heard a description of Neptune in aspect to Venus (and I think it can be transferred to Neptune in 7th) - sometimes you see rather the potential in people and might be blinded to how they really are and really behave.

Of course this does not always have to be the case. But yes, I think Neptune is very prone to disillusionment. After building big dreams.
of course it could also be spiritual and very idealistic and romantic.
But what happens to the romantic idea when everyday life sets in and you leave the film-set?

"The saturn in 7th house shows she feel restricted in relationships and might need to be a free agent."
Not necessarily. It could also indicate that she needs committed relationships.
But what we need is not always what we want,r ight?
Besides oftentimes an outer planet in the 7th house might get externalized, projected onto the world, especially if there is an opposition to a personal planet. This is not the case here, but still she could have deferred Saaturn`s responsibility to the outside world.

I think though the Neptune on the DESC is much more of a pressing issue, as it is so exactly conjunct DESC And it squares her Moon possibly. And Rob`s Moon is opposing her Neptune, so in a way this is a reinforced aspect. She has a challenging Moon-neptune in her chart in terms of relationships (Neptune on DESC). And Rob repeats that through the synastric aspect.

Interestingly he ends up on the "receiving end" of that Moon-Neptune-challenge, as he contributes the personal receptive Moon in Cancer which is also his ASC-ruler.

now Moon in Libra on its own is not prone to cheating. no single sign is. But Moon in Libra doesn`t like to be alone for the most part. They feel safe and comfortable, if there is someone they can relate to / have a relationship with.
And I guess if the partner`s not around, they are going to start looking for company. With the Neptune square, some illusions and misinterpretations are possible as well.

Interstingly Neptune rules her MC and sits on the DESC, that generates a tight connection between career and personal relationships.