posted August 05, 2012 10:50 PM            

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Originally posted by T:
re: vid CAY posted.......ummm.......

This is a perfect example of why people petrify me. I mean...absolutely scare the sh*t out of me.

What in the world? Was she doing that as a joke? lol I'm afraid the answer is 'no'. I had to close the window halfway through as I couldnt take much more of it.

How could someone get so upset over this....or any other kind of celebrity drama? Enough to cry about it and rant so intensely.....

*hold me*

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posted August 06, 2012 02:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Rosalind wow. I just have to hand it to you. You did a fine job here.

I had a few questions regarding that maybe you could explain more about.

The synastry overlay of his mars in her 9th helps transform her into an intensely sexual being or make her do perverted things? Could you explain that a bit more?

I assumed the 9th house was more for destiny etc. I guess I translate that over from vedic astrology, so maybe I have it confused.

Also, is it safe to say that any relationship relying only on the 5th house aspects is a mirage and short term?

Are long term relationships more about the angles, 1st , 3rd, 11th houses and even maybe the 12th?

Thanks would love to hear from you.

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posted August 06, 2012 10:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Well that’s rather presumptuous. So you can’t love someone if they don’t have planets on your Asc. Not true. And besides they have an Asc/Asc conjunction.

To make a blanket statement like “he doesn’t love her at all” based on Asc synastry is silly to me.

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First house doesn't factor in my love relationships whatsoever.

posted August 06, 2012 10:33 AM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
First house doesn't factor in my love relationships whatsoever.

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It's hard to say something has no relation whatsoever. It always has a relation. I would think that a first house would have a strong connection to love relationships. The attraction based on that house depends on the types of aspects and planets.

posted August 06, 2012 10:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Well that’s rather presumptuous. So you can’t love someone if they don’t have planets on your Asc. Not true. And besides they have an Asc/Asc conjunction.

She was his type actually…. He had Mars in the 7th house in Capricorn, and Libra on the 5th house cusp (5th house ruler Venus in Gemini was trine her Mars, and sextile her Sun)…. She is an Aries with Capricorn planets, and Moon in Libra. She had the right placements in her chart to appeal to him.

And from her side, her 7th house ruler Saturn was trined to Rob’s Sun in Taurus. This can spark an attraction…. She has Scorpio on the 5th house cusp (ruled by Pluto in Scorpio), Capricorn on the 7th (ruled by Saturn in Capricorn), and Aquarius on the 8th (ruled by Uranus in Capricorn)… Rob has none of these signs strong in his chart, and he may not have been her usual type… but his Moon is opposite her 8th house ruler Uranus in Capricorn, his Jupiter trines her 5th house ruler Pluto, and his planets fill up her 11th house of ‘love received‘…. There was a physical attraction, and he made her feel loved…. her 8th house behavior has shocked him though…

From what I can see with house ruler synastry there is evidence of a mutual attraction. To make a blanket statement like “he doesn’t love her at all” based on Asc synastry is silly to me.

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posted August 06, 2012 10:50 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Well,no planets over Asc = no love is very black and white perspective.
Rising sign [b]is important,but the conclusion is beyond reason,intuition,you name it. [/B]

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posted August 06, 2012 11:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Astrology is never silly. Only "astrologers" are. Of course I am not talking about me.

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posted August 06, 2012 11:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Start analyzing hundred and hundred of charts both of celebs and normal people

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I did.

Planets on the ASC are undoubtedly very significant, but the interpretation cannot be based on this alone.
And people also have relationships without ASC-conjunctions.

(Antonio Banderas/ Melanie Griffith; Robert Browning/ Elizabeth Barrett-Browning; William Randolph-Hearst / Marion Davies for example).

Basing an interpretation on a single factor alone will always be lacking in depth.

posted August 06, 2012 11:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I did.

Planets on the ASC are undoubtedly very significant, but the interpretation cannot be based on this alone.
And people also have relationships without ASC-conjunctions.

(Antonio Banderas/ Melanie Griffith; Robert Browning/ Elizabeth Barrett-Browning; William Randolph-Hearst / Marion Davies for example).

Basing an interpretation on a single factor alone will always be lacking in depth.

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posted August 06, 2012 11:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
No. Its not a black and white perspective. Start analyzing hundred and hundred of charts both of celebs and normal people and then we talk.

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I don't quite see how you'd know how many charts I have analyzed

posted August 06, 2012 12:10 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I don't quite see how you'd know how many charts I have analyzed

What's next,Saturn in H1 - no happiness for the native?

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posted August 06, 2012 12:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
I did those analyses, d'oh!

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And here I thought you wouldn't jape
I remember much humbler Rosalind. Naturally,if you had an astrological epiphany,the time you spent actually studying the charts is irrelevant and inconsequential. However,it would be of service to know what does analyzing entail - spotting patterns,discovering new ways or just plain ol' reading into? And,of course,some substantial backing up would be nice. And there is a matter of your place in the world - can your dogmatic/defensive self understand and notice all the shades of the life in order to understand its connection to astrology? "Colours of the wind" ??

posted August 06, 2012 12:39 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
And here I thought you wouldn't jape
I remember much humbler Rosalind. Naturally,if you had an astrological epiphany,the time you spent actually studying the charts is irrelevant and inconsequential. However,it would be of service to know what does analyzing entail - spotting patterns,discovering new ways or just plain ol' reading into? And,of course,some substantial backing up would be nice. And there is a matter of your place in the world - can your dogmatic/defensive self understand and notice all the shades of the life in order to understand its connection to astrology? "Colours of the wind" ??

Ok,I understand you can be snippy/dismissive with most members,but LL has good astrologers (not counting myself) ready to converse,surely,you can offer more.

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posted August 06, 2012 01:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
LOL! Nonsense.

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posted August 06, 2012 01:04 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I don't quite see how you'd know how many charts I have analyzed

What's next,Saturn in H1 - no happiness for the native?

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Don't say that! lol...
I have this in the my vedic chart.

posted August 06, 2012 01:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
I'm doing ok.

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posted August 06, 2012 01:08 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:

Yes,you will be taken quite seriously,I see

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posted August 06, 2012 01:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Everything I did on this forum was useless. I wont make the same mistake again.

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posted August 06, 2012 01:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Astrology is never silly. Only "astrologers" are. Of course I am not talking about me.

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No, astrology is never silly. Only how it's applied.

posted August 06, 2012 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
No, astrology is never silly. Only how it's applied.

Saying that Rob can't love Kristen because she doesn't have planets on his Asc is a bit extreme to say the least. It may be a significant connection but it's far from the be all, end all of love in astrology. I've looked at many couples' charts in my time as well, and it's not like every couple in the world that ever loved each other always has planets on each other's Asc.

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posted August 06, 2012 03:28 PM            

Also, it's not fair to be talking down to someone and being so sarcastic about it. I'm not sure I would like that myself had I been in her position. I notice that a lot on here. If someone, states something different people go on a rabid attack of that one person. Why gang up on anyone like that?

Seriously, you don't like what she says, move on to the next post. Learn to ignore things or learn from them. Don't talk down to someone like that. All this competition about who read how many charts. People get real; it's not a competition. There are no medals here. We are all here because astrology interests us. Grief.

posted August 06, 2012 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
I honestly don't see how people get so worked up over Rosalind's interpretation. Jeez, it's her right to post it. Why are all of you taking it as a personal attack?

Also, it's not fair to be talking down to someone and being so sarcastic about it. I'm not sure I would like that myself had I been in her position. I notice that a lot on here. If someone, states something different people go on a rabid attack of that one person. Why gang up on anyone like that?

Seriously, you don't like what she says, move on to the next post. Learn to ignore things or learn from them. Don't talk down to someone like that. All this competition about who read how many charts. People get real; it's not a competition. There are no medals here. We are all here because astrology interests us. Grief.

Just take a deep breath, and let's all act like adults now.

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posted August 06, 2012 04:20 PM            

I don´t take any interpretation of someone else as a personal attack.
I was just giving my opinion, cause people read here, who want to learn astrology and might get the impression that there are easy shortcuts to synastry.
There are not, so I considered my reply to this just as giving a different opinion and observation on this.

You are right. It it totally silly to emphasize how many years someone did astrology and use it as a proof for one`s own "legitimation".
I am glad you picked up on that.

Like Rosalind I do not really care about someone disagreeing with me or not seeing things the way I do.
What I care about are the people who are reading here to get some idea how to interprete a chart, natal or synastry.

Ultimatively everyone should do their own chartinterpretation and see for themselves what works consistently and what not.

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I want to point out though, that Rosalind is one of the very few participants on this thread here, who even did a detailed interpretation, which is what it this forum is about after all.